That is one reason I flew away from India! You wont even get a proper receipt for how much you pay!
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That is one reason I flew away from India! You wont even get a proper receipt for how much you pay!
a-e: Yes, there are several additions and subtractions too!Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
There are some schools, the tuition is free for your children if you are an employee of that school for five years or more. That works only if your child is bright enough to make it to that school.
Also, suppose they dont make in that school, and get to some what lower level school, still they pay 50% tuition of their school to those students !
Now that's not fair! :angry2: If everyone get a reciept then how will the head of the Indian Medical Council have 1800 crores cash and 1.5 tonne (1500 kg) of gold! :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Surya:
Let us talk about safety! How many sexual assaults (esp students in university) were reported in India?
You know how many happening here?
Girls get sexually assaulted easily here if they are not very careful!
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Originally Posted by thamiz
What is meant by --- HERE.?
Which country you mean, please.!
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Here stands for United States, Mr. Sudhama! :)
pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
:lol:
1. First and foremost is to improve their economic situation.
2. Migration to US is a major factor.
3. A well settled future once you finish and land even in a half decent job. Settled for life even in some cases. I think 50% of the students make this cut.
4. An Master's education from here is atleast of some-value in India and valued in other parts of the world. The value ranges from low to high. If you buck up with experience you can really market yourself in your field.
5. Peer pressure, Family pressure to up the ante. Prestige of settling and working abroad a big factor.
6. Believe it or NOT, I've seen some guys say to increase their DOWRY. :).
Serious social matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
இதுக்கு ஏன் :-) போட்டீங்க.
எது எதுக்கு சிரிக்கிறதுன்னு ஒரு வரைமுறை இல்லாம போச்சு.
மேலை நாடுகளில் படிக்கும் மேல்தட்டு இளைஞர்களிடமும் வரதட்சணைக் கொடுமை தொடர்வது கண்டனத்துக்குரியது. :frown:
ungalukkum tamizhkkum irukkara vaikaal thagaraarula edhukku en kayyai pudichu ilukuringa?. And i am smiling when i type this :lol2:.
When people reach a middle-age, the feeling people have are different and they realize their ignorance. Some people go back to India when they become really old and unhealthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Imported Meat cost more money! :lol2:Quote:
6. Believe it or NOT, I've seen some guys say to increase their DOWRY.
Do u know how common it has become for a girl to get "groped" when i a crowded place? That's a form of sexual assault also.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
A Normal Indian Girl who goes to College in America doesn't have to worry abt being raped or groped (For the most part for the latter one)
Wibha, back me up here. :P
Largely in high-class society, dowry kudukka ponnu veettukkaarangalum ready'yaa irukkaanga.... dowry vaanga payyan veettukkaarangalum ready'yaa irukkaanga.... so dowry doesnt harm either of themQuote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
based on widely appreciated theory in hub "If something not hurting or causing harm to others, that-thing is not at all wrong", one can conclude dowry is also not a wrong thing atleast for high-class society.
I am talking about RAPE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
I don't see any victims if both families are well off....except the pride of the Groom. Like I Said "Imported Meat Cost More Money!" :oops:Quote:
based on widely appreciated theory in hub "If something not hurting or causing harm to others, that-thing is not at all wrong", one can conclude dowry is also not a wrong thing atleast for high-class society.
Since we're comparing Indian and American Unis for Indian Students...Quote:
Originally Posted by tamiz
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Originally Posted by I
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by I
I dont know any normal indian girls. I know only special indian girls I suppose! :D
Tamizh, I donno how long u've been away from India but in the PRESENT-DAY context, this too has not remained uncommon here! :|Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
And given our relatively unhelpful justice system, the victims r seldom likely to get justice for it, which wouldnt be the case in say, the US!
thamiz,
Do you think girls studying in college in India could just walk around campus at 2 am or 3 am? NO. Can we do it here? Yes.
The safety provided in schools can't be compared with India.
Its amazing to study here. So many resources, healthy competition, freedom, independence. Students can't blame anyone for their downfall. The responsibility one gets as they start college. I doubt you can get these in Indian schools. The facilities provided by american schools for their students. A bachelor's here with some good research experience will get you a well-paid job. People don't even have to go to grad school. There are so many advantages one can get from studying here(America).
Wibha!
Check this out. I get this kind of "crime alert" often!
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To the XXXX University Community:
Shortly before 1 a.m. this morning, a female undergraduate student walking alone near the intersection of XXXX and YYYYY was sexually assaulted by a person not known to her. She was treated at a local hospital and is expected to be released today.
The University expresses its deepest concern for this student and is committed to the safety of all who study and work here. The crime is being investigated by the City Metropolitan Police Department. The University is offering support to the student, her roommates and her family.
These kinda incidents are common EVERYWHERE, except maybe some of the Middle Eastern countries where women are relatively secluded. As I (and wibha) said before, these kinda incidents are not unheard of even in India. In fact they are growing all the more common here! Especially in cities like Delhi.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
In fact atleast in the above case, the Univ. is offering support to the victim; had it been a Uni here, they most likekly wouldnt have even bothered to do that, rather they would've simply washed their hands off the matter and leave it to the victims/her family to deal with it! :|
:lol: Jesus! Talk abt a Superiority Complex! :poke:Quote:
Really?
I dont know any normal indian girls. I know only special indian girls I suppose!
Wibha and Lamby: :clap:
Another thing is, most rape cases in India don't even come out, the girls family wouldn't bring it out to begin with....
neenga #6kku dhaanE vandheenga :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
On safety, almost all campuses (that I know of) have a police station. But in Houston, the moment you walk out of your campus, you are in danger. The main campus there is notorious for substance abusers. I have been mugged on a couple of occasions and one of my friends was stabbed. I don't know of any rape cases during my stay there but yeah safety there (just outside the campus) is comparable to India. Much worse in fact.
:notthatway:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Certainly not the case in UK, I have BSc(hons) 2.1 in Computing, and MSc in computing.. I was still not able to get the job I wanted and, I am a 'Home' student, not a foreign student. Qualifications from Indian Universities are not considered in UK, unless you have Microsoft qualification!
I was giving an example to Wibha, who made a statement about safety in US campuses! Check out her post!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lambretta
Thamizh ka
There is no 'safe' place in the world :(
I think it happens a lot in US under "gun point".
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Originally Posted by thamiz
Gun crime in USA is very common though , UK is a 'Much' safer place compared to USA and Australia !
Sad, but true. Few months back, I met a friend who was in a hurry to go to a funeral of his Detroit friend who got shot while waiting in a signal :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
And the sad part is he was on his way for making preparations for his father's funeral (body kept in a funeral home) and that's when he was shot.
Both dad and son had funeral the same day :-(
We need a world without guns!
"Gun Point" is mostly gang Violence which one would have to deal with in bad parts of most Metros in the USA. Especially Detroit, Chicago, and some bad parts of LA (Compton, South Central etc).
Rarely do you see incidents like Columbine, or Virginia Tech, but those get blown out of proportion by the Foreign Media.
I guess that's a side effect when the Civilian Population has the right to bear arms....:(
Even then, the average Indian college student doesn't have to put up with much of that.
I was watching this documentary about gang violence in the South Central area of LA. One of the interviews with an active "Crips" gang member said:Quote:
And the sad part is he was on his way for making preparations for his father's funeral (body kept in a funeral home) and that's when he was shot.
"We've had our homeboys shot up on the streets like animals by opposing sects! Then we've had a Drive By Shooting @ The Funeral, which kills another one of our friends @ The Funeral of the Previous Friend who was shot by the opposing Sect! U DIG?!?" :(
I think Getting a gun for a Citizen should be a bit Easier in a country like India, where the Police are a bit of a joke. But America doesn't need to be so easy on guys since the Police Dept is far better, and the Average Citizen doesn't need a gun. (Not talking abt people who live in bad parts of towns)Quote:
We need a world without guns!
I called and inquired this Gun Showroom on Mount Road a few days ago with my friends as joke when we were under the influence of alcohol :lol2: Anyway, he said that we'd need an NOC from the Police Dept, and a signed letter from a few Govt Officials, which as any other procedure in India, takes a LOT Longer than it's worth. Even then, you can only have a few selected guns, which are quite low in Power.
Shotguns, M16's, Uzis, Semi-Automatics....Forget it. But that's a good thing tho, considering India's National Security Problems.
But even getting a normal Pistol is like crossing the Pacific on a Row Boat! :notthatway:
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
You need to OPEN your EYES and look around!
It was not long ago, a telugu girl and her brother (cousin) got killed. Both were shot!
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Family shocked over AP girl's murder in US
HYDERABAD/ADILABAD: Door No. 6-1-103/101 in Abhinavanagar Colony opposite CRPF quarters in Padmaraonagar, Secunderabad, reverberated with loud shrieks as Hemalatha cried inconsolably upon hearing the news about the death of her daughter Soumya Reddy, who was shot dead by an unidentified assailant in Chicago in the United States on Sunday. ( Watch )
Distraught with grief, a shattered Hemalatha said her daughter was taken away in the prime of her life. The 23-year-old Tummala Soumya Reddy was pursuing her MS degree in electrical engineering from Southern Illinois University. Preliminary investigations said the victim was found in a car, 30 km from the university campus. This is the fourth incident of a student hailing from Andhra Pradesh being killed under suspicious circumstances in the United States in the last 10 months.
The second daughter of Bhoopal Reddy and Hemalatha of Muniyal village of Kadem mandal in the backward Telangana district of Adilabad, Soumya went to the US in last June after completing her B Tech course from VIF College of Engineering and Technology in Chilkur. According to the victim's cousin Pratima, Soumya's elder sister is doing her MS in computers from Governor State University, Chicago, while brother Rajesh Reddy is pursuing his IIT course in Chennai.
Sources said the family shifted to the city 12 years ago after Bhoopal Reddy, who was working in the education department in Adilabad, passed away. Hemalatha is an employee of the irrigation department. The family was informed about Soumya's death by Prof Gopala Reddy of Southern Illinois University on Sunday night.
"We came to know about the death on Sunday night and after seven hours, Sahaja confirmed that the body at the mortuary was that of Soumya's," another relative Srinivas Reddy said.
He said Soumya was a bright student and she went to the US only to excel in her chosen field of engineering. "We just want the Indian government to ensure that her body reaches home as early as possible," Srinivas said.
Investigations are under way in the US to ascertain the motive behind the murder. Venkat Reddy, the victim's uncle, said security for Indian students leaves a lot to be desired in the US universities.
Soumya is the fourth student from Andhra Pradesh killed in the US in the last 10 months. While A Srinivas, a PG medical student from Karimnagar, was killed in March this year, Allam Kiran Kumar and K Chandrasekhar Reddy, both pursuing their Ph D courses, were shot dead at Louisiana University in December 2007.
When contacted, district SP Anil Kumar said that they are collecting more details on the circumstances that led to the killing of Soumya. "We got information on Sunday night about the incident," he said.
Meanwhile, a pall of gloom has descended on Muniyal village. People of the tiny village gathered in small groups on Monday morning at the village centre recalling their association with Bhoopal. Soumya's uncle and aunt, who reside in the village, rushed to Hyderabad after they heard the news about the untimely death of Soumya.
Go back READ what you have CLAIMED in your post! You just type some trash!Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
Hmm....School.....Middle School.....Math.....Proportions......# Of Indian Students In America/# Of Indian Students Shot = USA An Unsafe Place For Indian Students?
Paranoia is Bad For Mental Well Being! :notthatway:
This is turning out to be a Political talk rather than about the Education :x
While this could be an extreme case, things are getting more violent in India too :
http://www.dailythanthi.com/article....date=5/10/2010
I think the worst places are the law(less) colleges and we've seen a lot on the news reports as well.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Go back and READ what I POSTED! You're just Paranoid! :huh: U we bullied in College weren't u? :cry3:
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Remember when the Police just stood around and watched....:cry:
@ Params: We're still in Topic. We're talking about the Safety of Indian Students in the USA.