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So, alwarpet andavan, do you mean to say, if they security personals, don't find a terrorits, then they catch a local kashmiri, who incidentally happen to be a muslim, kill him and show him as terrrorits...."Think man''.....Quote:
Originally Posted by alwarpet_andavan
Becuz, we were given a overdoze of Secularism. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
Psuedo Secularism/Minority Appeasment to be Exact! :wink:
dsath,
I'm dooing propaganda ?
Ok keep it for you please my lady.
It is not because you are an atheist that you must take the theists for idiots ! :roll:
For atheists, muslims, and chrisitians it could be seen as a propaganda, but for great historian and indologists it is a true fact...
Who to trust ?
I prefer to hear history seen by a well educated historian than a muslim saying it is a propaganda...
This muslim would not trust it even if it is true...
Don't say me that with the age you forgot those 'serious' and strong arguments..Quote:
have serious arguments with anyone willing to discuss these issues.
If you have 'serious' arguments please contact me :wink:
Dsath do you know where is situated the Hindu kush, and what this name does mean.. ??
i dont think india is dumb...............india gives so much of importance to other religions in the name of secularism.........................which country on this earth gives imporatance to other religions like-----------than india?Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
this is the only country with hindu majaority and even in this country hindu has to live in fear for other religions and terrorist!
eelavar i wish they could change that name..........Quote:
Dsath do you know where is situated the Hindu kush, and what this name does mean.. ??
Cool it mate, i am not accusing you of propaganda and i am not an atheists as well. I was but not any more (now I believe in Hinduism). I am just stating that my ideas of many things have changed over a period of time, but not abt feminism (am still a staunch feminist). My dad was a communist and i thought (when i was your age) that communism is the best thing that can happen to India and we must sure follow USSR's path. He used to subscribe to a paper called 'People's Democracy'. It’s a leftist paper published from Kolkata. Not many people knew that such a paper exists. And we had other strange magazines and papers like Semmalar and Thekkathir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eelavar
I sure have changed my ideas now, because i am better informed and get to read much more. I can see both sides of the coin now. I know now that USSR was not great after all and they sure didn't treat all their people the same way as was stated in their propaganda material. The real bitter truth was that some 'Party' people got better lifestyles than the rest and had special lanes in road. This was what i was referring to when i said abt the difference between propaganda and real truth.
So no hard feelings. 8-) We will agree to disagree on the genocide issue. :)
i feel the same. i think communism is better than democracy!Quote:
Originally Posted by dsath
Interesting, 'cos I have the same opinions. But without knowing your thoughts on the organizations behind the attacks, it is very difficult to debate anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by srivatsan
So do you mean to say the boys are terrorists? Even the Army couldn't come up evidence to prove their claims and had to initiate investigations. Such acts by security forces are not new. Do the words 'Manipur' and 'Armed Forces Special Powers Act' ring any bells. Are all the Manipuris who protested the killing of innocents, siding with the militants? Maybe you should think.Quote:
Originally Posted by srivatsan
Whoa, whoa, cool there Ealavar. What have you got against atheists? And what makes you think all Indologists are right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eelavar
Abt Kashmir issue,
Its one of the mess started during partition.
Kashmirs were given the option to choose to stay on their own or accede with either India or Pakistan.
The then king was stupid enough to assume he could rule Kashmir as a separate country.
Pakistan wanted the state to accede with it and so started its infiltration tactics.
India had a lethargic attitude that Kashmir will finally opt to attach with India and were waiting for the King to do something.
When the Pakistan infiltration started the king hastily asked for help from the British (Atlee was preoccupied with things in Britain and the last thing he wanted was to spend more money on South Asia esp when Britan were bankrupt after te war), which did not happen. Sensing this British attitude the king hastily decided to accede with India.
Mountbatten had accepted the accession statement and requested the Indian defense Minister to help Kashmir.
At that point Mountbatten also said that the accession would be completed with the agreement of Kashmiris after the infiltration has been cleared.
And that is still happening.
I think Indira Ghandhi missed a golden opportunity when we had Pakistan at their knees during the 1971 war.
Probably she was too overwhelmed by the victory that she didn't sense this opportunity.
Pakistan has not given up its hope of acceding Kashmir to itself and has employed numerous tactics and one of which (is successful) is playing the religious issue.
The Indian politicians are not one to be left behind.
The congress plays mionrity appeasement to win power.
The BJP plays majority appeasement to win power.
The leftist are too embrolied in political correctness and have lost touch with reality.
Its all a power game played by the rich and powerful.
As a result of this who suffers....Kashmiris both Hindus and Muslims.
There are lots of Kashmiris dead now and living in constant fear of life. I would call it Kashmiri genocide.
Shame on us Indians for standing aside and watching this ridicule.
At the time Hindus were killed the majority in India were Buddhists. Which means probably you and me were descendants of Budhhists. The Hindus who were killed were actually terrosrists who were against the majority Budhhist aryans of North India.
Sankara who revived Hinduism was born in the 8th century in South India. The muslim Iranians were Aryans of North India like you and me. That is why they renamed Persia back to Iran meaning Aryan Nation during the world war. They simply adopted Islam as their religion as time passed. Hindu Kush is nothing but brother Aryan killing his brother Aryan. In any case majority of the Aryans those days were not Hindus. They were buddhists. Only a few hindus.
This issue is raised here to give patentship of Hinduism to South India and make Aryans fight against Aryans. We all know Sankara who revived Hinduism in the 8th century was a South Indian.
Beware of this conspiracy against Aryans. Iranians and Afghans are pure Aryans just like we Indians. That is why they swear their loyalty to Hitler. That is the reason why they fight against America.
As Aryans we worshipped all the Gods that they were worshipping in Iran originally. It is just that they still remember they are Aryans and we do not. We lost our worhip of Indra. They lost their wordhip of Daruius and became muslims. A DNA study between the Indian Aryans and them will prove that we are brothers. Religion will come and religion will go. The real Hindu was worhiping Indra. The day when they started worhipping Krishna or Budhha they lost their original religion. But they still have the blood of Aryans.