Swamigal: "Naane naduvula ungalta ketten, neenga kashtappadumbodhu- youth subject, Yuvan illa vera yaraiyavadhu vechu pannirukkalaame? Yen kashtappadreenga?" - wonder what...
And Kavudham :notworthy:
Swamigal: "Naane naduvula ungalta ketten, neenga kashtappadumbodhu- youth subject, Yuvan illa vera yaraiyavadhu vechu pannirukkalaame? Yen kashtappadreenga?" - wonder what...
And Kavudham :notworthy:
mudinchu... nice program... Gautham vevarama konjam ushArA thAn pEsunAr... Ennodu Vaa Vaa sounds better in the program when compared to youtube version... so far, sAindhu sAindhu is better than ennodu vaa..
fingers crossed for a great album.. :D
They ended with the third song. Pallavi and the filler after each line is definitely in the S.A Rajkumar ball park
muzhu pAttum aduiovum release paNNAlozhiya kEkkaRadhillai. Ipdi thaLli thalLi pOttu bit bitA release paNNinA curious Agi bit pAttellAm kEtturuvOmA? nadakkAdhudi (kauvdham) maganE!
EnyA bit bitA kEttu vimarsanam paNdrInga. muzhusA varattum (vandhAlum thERRA mAdhiri theriyalai adhu vERA vishayam)
//Dig: just to make a point/clarification. Gautham is not artificial. It's his natural state to break into English (neenga imply panneenga nu sollala...)Quote:
Originally Posted by raajarasigan
Third song?
yes yes.. I didn't find Gautham artificial... gautham kooda pazhagi, IR'kku ottikkichu... :)
I meant Ennodu (3rd song)...
Genuine koschen: Is GVM promoting NEPV film or just Saindhu Saindhu! There are 8 songs in this film and for all the talk so far (not just this TV show, but the whole bunch of news articles, interviews etc), only Saindhu Saindhu seems to be getting all the limelight!
A small film like Padithurai, which never got released, promoted atleast 3 songs in a Tv show.
And my take about the this TV show (from the instinctive understanding of tamil I listened there): I wont call it bad, but I didnt find any value-addition to the existing information that we all know. I mean, to put it correctly, I felt GVM has televised the "Baradwaj Rangan interview with GVM". It looked as if that BR interview was the script for this TV show. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Ennoda vaa enru solla maateen
Unnai vittu veru engum poga matten
Lyrics by our Raaja
Idhu theriyaama thittutteengale paa :lol:
BTW I liked those simple lines, It is like a kural you should take two lines to understand
influences a friend can bring....:-D எல்லாம் பழக்க தோஷம், ராஜா!Quote:
I didn't find Gautham artificial... gautham kooda pazhagi, IR'kku ottikkichu...
Urban, Sophisticated compositions pottu ellaraiyum thikku mukkada seiyuvaaru just like that.... ippo Gowtham kooda serndhu remba Urban janta aa ayidaporaaru...:smile:
Gowtham, Release the audio, I buy the CD , enjoy the whole songs.
I wait...
Suresh/Teja
On passing premature judgment: all I'm saying is that whatever little we listened to from Ennodu is definitely not in the Raaja league (ok, I'll have to listen to the prelude in headphones, only heard it twice now). Doesn't change the "fact" (paarra!) that the tune is pedestrian. And what's with that filler? Even the sound didn't feel right overall. Something extraordinary has to happen from the lude. Teja, I think the simple tune argument, implying a dichotomy (lot of assumptions riding on that sir) is not valid. The audience won't like it if the tune is not pedestrian? In the first place, simple tune in general is not the problem. "Va va pakkam va", "sundari kannaal oru sedhi", "Raaja raajaadhi raajan indha Raaja" - ???
Raaja goes spiritual and says "... Ilaiyaraaja is dead...." and Jaya TV insert a BGM here :banghead:
odyQuote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Yes i hated that. infact the whole show has a bG- to get rid of boredom or to add to that mood?? Either way bad.. Idhula somebody suggested to reduce ticket prices by covering the conclave in TV channels....
Some tidbits of the programme
1) May be the song Satru Munbu will remind Devathai Ilamdevi song
2) GVM myskin maathiri script ezhuthina udana Raajanu fix pannittaaram :he he:
3) GVM wanted yuvan for another song and Raja picked Karthik over yuvan.
4) IR Lyrics என்னோடு வா வா என்று சொல்ல மாட்டேன் உன்னை விட்டு வேறு எங்கும் போக மாட்டேன் was told by GVM to IR at end of show. A poetic finish of the programme
5) Apparently Ennodu Vaa song sounds way better in the programme
BTW I expected an album like TET which was orchestration cracker but I will get very different one..
Tet?..
raaja bgm na mute-la vittuduppaaruQuote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Appo GVM oru maathiri aagittaaru
· kaakaikku sOru vekkara mAdhiriyE invanga namakku teaser vekkaraanga. :hammer:
· ennOdu vaa vaa - indha bit la tune sumaaru; orchestration's fine; too early to write-off the song.
· The show was pretty ok; GVM handled it well and had some good responses to some of raaja's phlasaphy; his corporate/manager style sounds oddly funny though there's nothing artificial about it.
Jaya adding BGM to the show was LMFAO worthy. thiruppadikkE ladda?
· Raajavin thookkalaana aangila vaadai - why ya? Must be 'youth connect' or some kandravi perception of that sort. (Interestingly, few months back in the endrendrum raaja show, he's said this: 'naan ennOda kochchayaana english la pEsaradhu, ungalukku aaga illa, avangalukku (hungary isai kuzhu) puriyanungarthuku dhaan)
· GVM said he has plans to release the demo tapes (Raaja on vocals with just guitars/keys/drums in the background) :clap:
· Raaja also seems to be pissed at the delay in the audio release. His request was nearly to the effect of 'seekaram release panni tholaingappa'.
· Albaththin mEl nambikkai innum undu. Keep the faith.
Thenrale Ennaii ThoduQuote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Innum nnu solra aLAvukku enna mosamaa nadanthuduchi? Above all, what we heard till now is nothing, no?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
Reading twitter reactions about the Interview. Raja fans themselves, rombavum sahipputhanmai kuraichalaa, porumai inri, chinna chinna mistakes ellaam kandupudikkiraanga. on both Raja and Gautam, Ivlo Analysis Udambukku aagaathunga :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
இருக்குர இம்சைகள் பத்தாதுன்னு இவனுங வேற! ஆனா விளம்பர இடைவெளி ரொம்ப இல்லை!!
vallavarE, mannikkavum! 'innum' was indeed not necessary there.
And yeah, namma payaga neraya pErukku podhuvAvE 'araaichi' panra vazhakkum undu (raaja paattu kEkkara effect!); ella 'analysis'um summa oru pozhudhu pOkku dhEn. audio release aagattum; apparam paarunga!
Padithurai songs airded?!? WHen yaa?!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by aakarsh
Swamigal on his composing philosophy/nature at the beginning of the intree: I should be true to myself, not to Gautham, not to the audience. The narrator (director) and the narrated (screenplay) should "inspire" me to give scores. It doesn't work if makers come with set formulae like I will place a song here, and a song after interval to pick up the face - that's how they make films these days.
Towards the end: "I don't prepare when I compose. I used to earlier, when I was getting exposed to different musical styles/forms but not now. It just happens" - I think this is key. I mean we need to strip out the romantic notion of "it just happens" vis a vis his current compositions. Especially as a critique. The first point above and this are related
I predict it may receive more brickbats in the hub after that :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
However, I'm 200% sure it will create waves in TN and be considered patti-thotti-hit. At this point of time, personally, I want him to be a force to reckon with in the biz -rather than getting some critical acclaim- with this project :-) From the samples, I think reNdum kitta vazhi illai.
However, one never knows - there could be surprise inclusions like the 'niRam piriththuppArththEn' in TIME.
Its amazing to see the varied responses to the 2 song teasers. I think IR fans are kind of in a dilemma. The fact is that is both these tunes atelast from what extent we got to hear does not invoke any of the old IR songs. So is that a good thing or bad thing? On One hand people always remark that they get the already heard feeling when listening to IR's recent movie songs(even the popular ones), but now once he comes out with totally fresh sounding songs people still complain that it is not upto IR's standard. It is amazing that IR after so many years and movies still comes out with such a youthful fresh sounding tunes. Yes i think the tunes are totally fresh sounding and youthful. yes the the new song has very simple lyrics and simple pallavi(catchy i might add) upto what we got to hear but i think it may fit the time period in the movie as well. Since i have a guess that this relate to the lead pair in their school days. Its just a guess. Ofcourse we have to hear the entire song to draw any conclusions. But one thing is certain IR has totally gone in for a new identity in this movie songs atleast in these two songs. Also pl stop with dragging SA Rajkumar into this while comparing 2 lines of pallavi. His songs had some nice melodious pallavi as well(not talking about whole song or orchestration). So have some respect toward him as well. not everyone is as talented as IR in orchestrating and creating a song.
I think I'm gonna go into 'plum' mode and curtail my enthusiasm to watch any further teasers/trailers/bits/thukuda/kosuru.
ini saapta full meals dhaan.
Rprasad
I dont see the arguments like the one above as being very different from the all conquering all MD/songs praising posts doing the rounds these days. I will add with condescension that Raaja has made me a discerning listener. Raaja fan-a irundhaalum dont see a need to go gaga over Mayakkannaadi, for e.g.
Adhukkellaam gaga aitrundha avar fan-ave irundhirukka maattene, in the first place. I also think it is an insult to Raaja fandom if over simplified illogical reductions are made as shown above (e.g. "not upto IR standards" is being equated to wanting the same tunes he has composed before!!! EKSI)
By the way, let's not bring value judgments to it, if you are not comfortable - S.A Rajkumar pallavi signature nu onnu irukku nu othuppeengala?
thought of posting here and posted in other thread.
Highlight of the program..
we are tourchering audience by keep on giving news and not releasing the song...pls release it (even IR knows about our feeling)
Link -> http://www.techsatish.net/2012/08/il...interview.html
1st part missing it seems
படித்துறை பட முன்னோட்டத்தில் வந்த பாடல்கள் எல்லாமே முத்துக்களா இருக்கு. ஆனா முழு பாடல்களையும் கேட்கவேமுடியாமல் போய்விட்டது. அவற்றை ஒப்பிடும்போது நீதானே என் பொன்வசந்தம் பாடல்கள் ஈர்க்கவேயில்லை. ஆனால் இதற்குத்தான் எப்பேற்பட்ட எதிர்பார்ப்புக்கள்/பதிவுகள்/விமர்சனங்கள்.. என்ன மாதிரியான டிசைன் இது! எனிவே, நீ.என்.பொன்வசந்தத்தின் பாடல் மிகவும் பிரபலமாகி, ஒருவேளை படித்துறை படத்தின் பாடல்களை அதன் தயாரிப்பாளர் வெளியிட முன்வந்தால் அதுவும் நல்ல விஷயம்தான்.
Bala, I am not the one to go gaga over all IR songs. Infact its too early to go all gaga or totally write off 2 teasers with 2 lines of pallavi which we listened. But i like what i heard so far and it intrigues me in a way that i want to see if IR is indeed creating a new identity with this album. I don't have an IR standard against which i compare everything he does now By the way i am not implying that it means his old tunes. I perfectly understand what it means and i have heard enough music to know that. I try to listen with an open mind and if i don't like it then so be it. As for SA Rajkumar signature i am not really aware if one exists. But his tune did not even enter my mind when i listened to this pallavi and i have heard enough of his songs as well. That's just my opinion.
There is no 'if' clause there...it's already written, IMO :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by venkkiram
This album has already received the hype like a big-star album...plus there will be further high voltage promotions on all channels, 'mudhal nALileyE pala latcham viRRadhu' etc...pidikkavE pidikkAdhavanaikkooda, 'it slowly grows on me'-nnu solla vaikkiRa aLavukku peer pressure irukkum.
adhE mAthiri design dhAn...sila pala varushangaLAvE pAkkuRadhu dhAn :wink:
Look at the thatstamil (one india) article on this half minute promo :shock:
It talks as if there had been only kAnal neer in TFM for decades...indha mAthiri innum niRaiya varum...
my view, after watching Ennodu Vaa vaa song in the Jaya TV show, Sure Hit.
Raja's Magic?!!!
:ty: for the video links! There are carnatic music, hindustani sangeeth, jazz, wcm, rock, blues etc... & then RAJA SANGEETHAM - RAJA PATTU too!:musicsmile:
Raja is correct! I always think if I ever have a drop of hope for life, embrace good & bad, I attribute it to Raja's isai in which I grew up! Thanks for not giving up on us, Raja!:ty: that's why 'music listening hr' is important in a day!:musicsmile:
konjam konjam parthachu...I will return! :grin:
Vinatha
Thoughts on the teaser.
# too short - just when you want to increase your volume and start singing the next line like nobody's business, it is cut off. You rascalla. Real teasing.
# just cannot understand the mood of the song - the prelude kind of confuses it
# prelude is a total #win. First one train comes. And then two bus horns. And then clarinet-uh-this-instrument goes. That bit is very nice - it is intriguing as I said before. Like, doesn't have a clear start or end, just like few stolen phrases. That pause is #win I say. I lou it whenever Raaja pauses music.
# the two lines we hear is very uninteresting. Add to it, Karthik sings it as without any interest
# lyrics is #facepalm. not trendy. telugu lo chAla bAga undhi, ardham kAdhu, vinipichchEdhi mAthram, sound bAga undhi
# very very nicely cut visuals. I like it how Samantha runs after Jiiva but stops and pretends to be uninterested and walking. And how when the voice starts he cuts to Jiiva holding the mike and reluctantly looking. Samantha is very suweet, she is going to be sure shot blockbuster heroine
# that dancing around in the apartment - adhu female solo-nu thOnittE irukku. Should be that song sung by NSK's grand daughter.
innum 15 nAL. nAnsens.
Watched program on Jaya TV (Neeyae en Isai Vasantham). My snippets
1. GVM seems to have a measure of IR, atleast for the interview part. never seen IR interacting so calmly (though he went in to Philosophy mode atleast a couple of times). I remember an IR interview in late 80s in which he has told that F2F interview with predefined thoughts is meaningless. considering that comment and this one hour interview, IR has changed a lot these days, it makes me believe.
2. Going by what IR said, this is the first time in his life putting so much effort for a film. we all know his composing sessions is probably the shortest in world cinema (on an average of all films). But here is where I am getting a bit jittery on the emotional quotient of the album. Bcos IR's effort so far has been spontaneous. we have to wait and see.
3. IR's narration of Alpha rythm/tuning has very deep meaning and is the core of his music, I believe.
4. it seems some copyist has left in the middle of recording in London. Alsso there were no copies distributed for one of the days. this made IR to dictate the entire score and the musicians play them as seen in Prasad Studios...
5. it is going to be IR concert Mazhai for sure in future for IR fans
6. I thought GVM tried a bit too much to know how IR composes his music
my expectations for the album is only growing...
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MelHarmony
என்னோட வா வா என்று சொல்ல மாட்டேன்.
உன்னை விட்டு வேறு எங்கும் போக மாட்டேன்.
GVM says Raaja wrote for him.
Oho.. Meeku telugu baane vochchaa? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano