the movie is pretty good, not great :)Quote:
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the movie is pretty good, not great :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ajithfederer
Pudikkalainna ennai thittathinga :shaking:Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
Went to Aayirathil Oruvan yesterday for a 6 pm show.. The theatre guy said the second half reel hasnt come yet so the show is cancelled :lol: .. UK liyae ippadiyaa :oops:
So had to go for another 12A movie as I was having my 7 mth old son and ended up in "All abour Steve" with a disturbed mind whether to go or not.
After 90 minutes, it wasnt that bad actually and its a feel good film (atleast for the heroine)..
Recommended for all the "feel good movie" lovers and if you love crosswords, you will meet someone who creates those crossword in the form of Sandra :D
Next in the list is my siggy.. IMDB has given 7.6 and the theatre was pretty occupied for that movie yesterday.
Pudikum Pudikum :) P_R - padam 1 hr 20 mins.. neenga paatuku 20 minsla padam mudinjuduchunu nenaichidaadheenga :)Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
LM ... somebody did ask me whether I reckoned the ambulance driver.. any idea ?
It's Appu who asked you :) Btw, he asked about the patient in the ambulance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aalavanthan
Spoiler:
He is the security guard of the bank where Lola's dad works. It's suggested that he is the real father of Lola. Remember the first run, in which Lola's dad says she is not his child.
Spoiler ends
Oh Yes, I do remember that "that" person had an soft corner when he was asked to push the "other" person out of the "place" ...Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
"Worlds greatest Dad".. :|
Robin Williams :clap:
Across the hall - :2thumbsup: the suspense was maintain very nicely,few unnecessary scenes.. but overall a good thriller,pretty good acting.better than my expectation.
A Tale of Two Sisters - :clap:
I dont want to tell anything abt the movie as it might give a hint abt the plot of the movie.
just two things
1.The girl who played su-yeon should be the cutest girl on earth.
2.The second viewing makes it an awesome movie.
cinematography,the pace of the movie,acting,music,silence :clap:
Ikiru again
What a lovely film :clap:
naan ellAm 'move' aaga mAttEn-nu yaar sonnadhu ? solrapadi sonnA move aayittu pOrEn.
indha maadhiri padam edukka sonnA ukkAndhu Ottai pOttu koNdu varAinga.
Migrated from twitter: (Hope Equa replies here, anga remba kastama irukku, to reply in paragraphs)
@equanimus Re. Blue: With regards to the discussion on Intentional fallacy, I'd like to know what you made of Kieslowski's stance in the film, especially re. 'desist associating different emotions to piece of music'. The ending seems to say, art, or in this case, music connects 'em all by emotion. Thus "unifying them", even if the actual unification of Europe could turn out be a illusion. Also, the central character's emotion and love (towards her husband) tied strongly to that piece. After she knows of her husband's infidelity, she is able to overcome this "emotional" chord to the piece. Letting her to complete and reshape it. You can reply in TFhub. :)
Throne of Blood. Kurosawa's adaptation of Macbeth. Nalla irundhuchu. Romba easy a oru scene oda intensity ya koNdu vandhudraar.
But naan konjam sirichukitte paathen. The lady who acted as Macbeth :lol: yeRkanave moonju konjam izhuththu vechchu thechchaa maadhri irukku. Idhula she wears one stiff expression through out. Andhamma odradhu nadakkaradhu ukkaarradhu ellaame :lol: costume vera innoru oru periya comedy. tailor indha ammavoda height-ku alter paNRadhukku munnaadiyae kudhichchu odi vantaanga pola.
aduththu Vishal Bharadwaj oda adaptation of same story paakka poren.
It is representative of a Japanese theatre style called: "Noh". Its speciality is acting with a fixed/minal expression.Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano
:thumbsup: One of the best indhi films ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano
Maqbool dvd enga kedaikuthu?Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
Was available in Landmark, Nungambakkam. Roshan bought it when she was here a couple of years back.Quote:
Originally Posted by great
Original DVD vaangappOreengaLA ? idhenna pudhu pazhakkam ?
torrent kedaikala :ashamed:
Moonraker - :cool2: cheesy, but fun.. like all other Roger flicks. (except maybe LALD)
PTS was awesome.. probably the best in the entire series.
Equa eppo reply panna poraar :think:
Every single piece I have read on the colors trilogy always has with the phrase : "My reading of...." :lol2:
adhunaalaayE oru dissance maindain paNREn.
equa, ezhudhunga naan grow-up aayi padam paarthadhum padikkaREn.
LALD's my favourite of Sir Rog/007. Only don't like revisiting A View To A Kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raikkonen
Up side to AVTAK: Christopher Walken.
Downside: Grace Jones :hammer:
Anyway, Moonraker could be in top five with highest collection in that franchise, inflation adjusted I mean. PTS was awesome for its time.
I think Roger is unfairly overlooked/criticized by many (even by ardent bond fans)..
i loved all of his movies.. yes even TMWTGG. :lol:
Rog made those "so-far-away-from-Fleming-that-it-could-be-his-third-cousin-from-Ukraine" films watchable with his tongue in cheek humour. I watch them for him, yes including AVTAK, though Walken overshadows everything including the frickin' projector.
Moonraker, now that you mentioned it, Raiks, is also full of quotable lines, it look stupid on paper (or on screen), but Sir Rog really made it funny:
Holly: Hang on!
Bond: The thought had occurred to me.
The bad guy, Drax, gets couple of gem:
Drax: Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him.
and
Drax: James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability of an unloved season.
and
Drax: At least I shall have the pleasure of putting you out of my misery :lol:
Of course, old Q gets his share too:
Minister: My God, what's Bond doing?
Q: I think he's attempting re-entry, sir. :lol:
Colors trilogy is for 'seeing' and not much for reading into it. You feel for the characters (And they are very "Real"), and there are no contrived sentimental diatribe & sequences. If you liked films like "Ikiru", you should like this too. Talking of 'blue', The first few minutes and the final denouement is tour-de-force Kieslowski, visually & stylistically magnificent. Color tones (for once, it's more than just blind editing), full blackouts, and camera techniques galore. But Kieslowski isn't doing a Godard-ian gimmick. Sounds and background music (there is only a single "anthem" in blue) is at emotional core and a major part of the story.
k-g,Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
That is an interesting reading, but I'm not sure if she comes back to finish the score because she becomes dispassionate about the piece of music. In a way, it is the piece of music that makes her connect back to her old life. The lady who takes a copy of the unfinished score before destroying it later says, "this music is so beautiful. You can't destroy things like that." It is this beauty that keeps returning to her liberated self, and makes her reconcile with her old life, isn't it?
I don't know where you got such an idea from, but each of the Three Colours film has a rather simple story. There's nothing 'puzzling' about them at all. Kieslowski mEla ippadi oru charge vechchadhE periya thappu.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
P.S.: My comment on k-g's post that it's "an interesting reading" is intentional by the way. :)
Oh isit !Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
அந்த மூலைல ஒரு கிழவன் உக்காந்துருந்தானே அதுக்கு என்ன அர்த்தம் - அப்பிடிங்கிற ரேஞ்சுல இங்க கூட சில discusssions போச்சு.
ஓனர், சங்கிலியால நாயை புடிச்சிகிட்டு...கடிக்காது சும்மா பக்கத்துல வாங்க அப்பிடி சொல்ற தொனில இந்த reassuranceஐ படிச்சேன்.Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
You're almost paranoiac, I say! adhAvadhu, nA solla varRadhu ennannA, oru elusive scene 'kkum "anga dhAngudhu padamE" 'nnu solRadhukkum, there is a world of difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
ippadi pEchchu adi pattAlE pAkka mAttEn 'ngRadhu enna niyAyam! Hey! Ram 'la periyappA mahA pAvam 'nu sollittu En seththArnu kUda dhAn namma maNikkaNakkA pEsuvOm.
Equa,
I didn't mean she becomes dispassionate about the music, but all attempts of emotional insulation to the loss (avoiding contact with her friends, not being in a vicinity of children, giving away the furniture and memorabilia) didn't help her win over the nostalgia of the music. It keeps coming back to her, bringing all the associated emotions to it. How she managed to outdo this traumatic remembrance and nostalgia, is at break of infidelity, that she no longer feels at core of her husband's work. The mistress and not her, their life together, or anything at all, could have been the 'muse' and inspiration. Music as you had noted, is its beauty (but I don't believe that copy lady's words came off as an epiphany in realizing it, after all Binoche's character is an artist, too) the way it percolates without boundary and reverberates around. The street flutist doing a tune reminiscent to her husband's, she questions where he got it from, he says 'it comes from everywhere' (non-verbatim).
What you made of this, The ending seems to say, art, or in this case, music connects 'em all by emotion. Thus "unifying them", even if the actual unification of Europe could turn out be a illusion. :
My question:
The other day, in "Intentional fallacy" thread, you strongly believe in desisting the notion of associating emotion to piece of music" (PR also added 'the listening experience' being part of the deal). This film seem to be advocating "emotional fixation" much too strongly. Adhan kEkurEn. yEn indha madhiri ellam solreenga?! Nan sonna madhiri, "whatever works"'-oda vittudalam. :lol:
Then I was on the other side of the table you see :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
koodiya seekkiram compulsory-A thirundhidarEn.Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
adei Tarkovsky, sooda oru Stalker eduththu vai !
Actually I did think your question was along these lines until I read this line: "she is able to overcome this "emotional" chord to the piece." I thought you were perhaps arguing that she detaches her emotions and responds to pure music. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Anyway, I'm not sure if it's the music that connects everyone in the film. The Unification of Europe perhaps serves as an allegory to her own reunion with her past.
Well, it's not anything like a strong belief! The pleasure I derive out of listening to a piece of music doesn't seem to have anything to do with my rather staid life, my perceptions of life, the universe etc. Its beauty just is. That's why I said I subconsciously desist associating emotions to pieces of music.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Umm, not sure I got that. Can you please elaborate?Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
to self: Ivalo neram enna panna! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Equa
As said in previous post, I think the lady fixates life experiences with her husband to that piece of meesik. And how this is won-over by film's end, is in that para:
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all attempts of emotional insulation to the loss (avoiding contact with her friends, not being in a vicinity of children, giving away the furniture and memorabilia) didn't help her win over the nostalgia of the music. It keeps coming back to her, bringing all the associated emotions to it. How she managed to outdo this traumatic remembrance and nostalgia, is at break of infidelity, that she no longer feels at core of her husband's work. The mistress and not her, their life together, or anything at all, could have been the 'muse' and inspiration. Music as you had noted, is its beauty (but I don't believe that copy lady's words came off as an epiphany in realizing it, after all Binoche's character is an artist, too) the way it percolates without boundary and reverberates around. The street flutist doing a tune reminiscent to her husband's, she questions where he got it from, he says 'it comes from everywhere' (non-verbatim).
Well that's one other thing I thought of. Idhai nan padam patha piragu (Which is quite some time ago), kieslowski interviews padichEn, avar kuda solvaar, a music is composed for a marriage. If the marriage doesn't happen, the tune when played today, would still revoke and act as invisible channel by which they are all unified. That interview is not even present in web anymore. Ippo nan enna seyya?! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Equa
Oh, I'm sorry, skimming/non-interpretation syndrome. :) But isn't this all about memory itself rather than just music? Many things, naturally, make her connect to her past throughout the film. She wants to be through with everything, but 'the irretrievable' is always complemented by 'the unfinished.' Again, I think the piece of music rather serves as a symbol to 'the unfinished' in her life.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
She is getting blacked-out by tones played over her head.Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
While that piece of music could symbolically represent the 'unfinished'. Still she destroys it (Remember only later she finds it hadn't been destroyed) - like disposing of other memorabilia. To her, It's part of the 'irretrievable', the 'emotional fixation'. But what music does, that other things doesn't, is percolate through voluntary blockage, and subconsciously reverberate.
Not that both the readings are 'divergent', it could both function in tandem. (P_R annathe, :poke:)
Btw noted the point of 'beauty as is' wrt music. To me, it's still divided. At one end of spectrum, the mathematical precision, the arrangement, etc that pleases the senses but at the other end, the emotional association/fixation. I'm still not a musical or a lyrical. I'm still somewhat instinctive when it comes to music.
She wants it and all of her past to be 'irretrievable,' be through with them, which is of course the idea of liberty that the film examines. But actually the music does keep playing in her mind. And then there are always people/friends who remind us of things. Here this is manifested in a literal sense by the lady who keeps a copy of the composition notes. And later we also see that she herself has some notes that tie together the piece in her handbag.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Wow, ezhudha ezhudha kOrvaiyA varudhE. thangath thalaivar Kieslowski!
Incidentally my warning to lyricals is not because I'm a musical. (I'm not.) Even if I don't appreciate poetry/verse as much as music (a severe understatement), I don't want to contend that the latter is a better art form in a universal sense. But in the context of Tamil film music, I think the preference should be ob. Hence the warning.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Thanks to multiple readings, there is a certain semblance of coherency. :lol: The only fear is people might think of it as a complicated film. :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
Yeah, this is not a puzzling film in any sense of the word. And you guys are fanboys of filmmakers like Nolan! *idhu AvuRadhilla*
Btw, all the claims put forth were from watching the film 3-4 years back. :lol2: I don't remember the character names and specific details. I need to watch the film again. In fact, the lady handing over copy to composer's friend (right?) and the finishing note in Binoche's handbags, are all like a distant dream. :lol: Mostly I love the colors trilogy for its simplicity (And most Kieslowski films incl. Decalogue, baring that 'unknown stranger', mostly avoid over-complication, and less indulgent filmmaking.) as I said in a post:
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Colors trilogy is for 'seeing' and not much for reading into it. You feel for the characters (And they are very "Real"), and there are no contrived sentimental diatribe & sequences. If you liked films like "Ikiru", you should like this too. Talking of 'blue', The first few minutes and the final denouement is tour-de-force Kieslowski, visually & stylistically magnificent. Color tones (for once, it's more than just blind editing), full blackouts, and camera techniques galore. But Kieslowski isn't doing a Godard-ian gimmick. Sounds and background music (there is only a single "anthem" in blue) is at emotional core and a major part of the story.
I'm a fanboy of PT Anderson, Coen brothers and Quentin Tarantino.
Nolan, Arnofsky, etc are promising filmmakers. But I wouldn't call myself a 'fanboy'. A 'fan' would be appropriate. :)
Was kidding, k-g. That was to poke PR by digging his case history.