IR New Albums - Old responses (5 Aug 2006)

app_engine,
I guess, moondram pirai stands a testimony to IR's amazing honesty to the script. Listen how each song fits to the script. Vaanengum thanga vinmeengal, Kanne kalaimaane, poongatru and even the nari song were outstanding. Forget the re-recording for the whole film. I think, the tunes were made to be simpler and the orchestration complex, just to create the apt mood. However, am not sure of the fact about Vaanengum thanga vinmeengal, that was a bolt from heaven. Outstanding delivery by both SPB and IR. Special mention has to go to S.J for crooning Ponmeni, with out her the song would have gone to gutter.

Guys..am I confused..yEh zindagi is 'en vaazhvilE varum anbE vaa, kannE vaa nilaa mugam kandEn vaa'. right ? Not poongaRRu ... This one is made for guitar, very western so don't look for the 'tune' (as in Indian music). It is surely a good tune in a different paradigm.
Also, I dont know what you mean by the hindi songs are contrived. I thought all IR's hindi songs were really well done in terms of production/engineering and sound like a 'well-finished' product whereas many IR tamil films songs were (and sadly sometimes still are) seem to be done in a rush.If you ask me, IR overestimated the taste of Hindi audience with really classy output.

Guys, If you are not sure if IR would not have succeded in Hindi movies just listen to Hey Ram , the songs actually sound better in Hindi than in Tamil. That was outstanding output which actually clicked in North as well( songs i mean not the movie). So IR was extremly capable of succeding in Hindi as well. but the fact was at his peak he was too busy in South and would never have been able to devote time for Hindi. This is unlike ARR who chooses his assignments regardless of language and is able to focus equally on all his assignment. I think this was the main reason for IR not succeeding in Hindi.

Kiru, yes you're right - `en vAzhvilEy' of Thambikku endha ooru is Raja's recycle of `yEh zindagi' of Sadma.

What I wrote was about my complaints of `yEh zingagi' not a worthy replacement of `poongAtRu'. Remember, Sadma is the Hindi flop adaptation of the successful Tamil moondRAm piRai. Raja changed the tune and parts of orchestration for this `ooty-kamal-sridevi-jolly' song. To me `poongAtRu' is very original, fresh and charming and sugar standard. `yEh zindagi' iluppaippoo...

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Originally Posted by rprasad

...This is unlike ARR who chooses his assignments regardless of language and is able to focus equally on all his assignment. I think this was the main reason for IR not succeeding in Hindi.

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Could be one of the reasons. I feel ARR's rhythms being non-Indian, it may not have the 'south-Indian' tinge IR's tunes have. Also, the 'carnatic'/south-indian flavor might be still stuck in IR's tunes being a hard-core 'son-of-the-soil' natural composer he is. He may not like to 'change' colors. The north-indian audience might be sensitive to this.

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Originally Posted by app_engine

Kiru, yes you're right - `en vAzhvilEy' of Thambikku endha ooru is Raja's recycle of `yEh zindagi' of Sadma.

What I wrote was about my complaints of `yEh zingagi' not a worthy replacement of `poongAtRu'. ....

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app_engine, Agreed, poongARRu is in a different league.

(BTW, I am listening to IR's italy concert with Uttam Singh. And Singhji having been with IR for quite sometime (10yrs ?) even his tunes have south indian flavor. Check out his few hindi compositions)

I saw a new trailer of SHIVA on the television channels with different back ground music. Unfortunately could not hear the sound well. So, no comments.

I also happened to watch a song from the movie. "Botony class undu" has been rehashed with different orchestration (tune is same). I dont think this is the song that was picturised in Bangkok as this song takes place in a coffee shop/hotel.

thanks,

Krishnan

Article about IR, it says IR busy in Hindi and Telugu

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/specia...iyaraja_1.html

When the movie "SHIVA" is getting released?

Altruist Varma said it will be screened in July in some international festival, most probably a preview. The movie is pending for a late july or early august release. Probably before September is what we can confirm.

I dunt think the songs will be looked into too much..from what i see the BGM is what IR will be working on and knowing North Indians...they dunt really bother abt BGM..:cry: