One of the several news items about IR being in Bombay for recording "Cheeni Kum" songs:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060713/48/65vej.html
thanks,
Krishnan
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One of the several news items about IR being in Bombay for recording "Cheeni Kum" songs:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060713/48/65vej.html
thanks,
Krishnan
Thanks for the link krish..
it is highly unfair to call ARR deviated his style of music and IR didnt......ARR had one style of music in 90's and it was global........anyone from Chennai to New York cud have enjoyed it.....its just that northies enjoyed it more than tamilians......Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkster
Actually, I have to agree with Hulkster.
Although ARR started off with music that had western influence (pop genre), the sound was very Indian, and he and it wasn't too different. The music of ARR from 92-95 is very different, and then there was that lull period for some years, and I believe his music has gone through a lot of change.
Post late 90s, I am sure everyone could enjoy his music. But before that, his songs were very regional oriented. Lots of albums that were a huge hit in the South, failed to attract the North. Not so much global appeal there. Of course, this is in general.
IR never shifted much in his music. He has reduced using violins etc and gone for computerized instrumentation, e.g Pithamagan. But the melody is there, the orchestration follows his set pattern. The good songs are there, the crappy songs are there. It's just that, these days, the crappy songs outnumber the good ones. For both music directors:-)
That is true. ARR did quite a few villagey folk-oriented films in the 92-95 period. He didn't seem quite at home in this genre like IR was, but ARR did some interesting things with the genre.
Pithamagan did have orchestration (the fantastic opening to Adadaa, some string parts in Elangaathu, probably some others). I like albums like Pithamagan and Mumbai Xpress more than that last Fazil film he did. Can't even remember the name.
yes ARR's music has always undergone changes but for his own interests and his fans' interests and not to impress any Bollywood badshah.......lull period in 90's for ARR?? i couldnt see any.......infact 96,97,98 saw Kadhal desam, Iruvar,Dil se,Minsara kanavu.....u cud say he has gone into lull after Rythm maybe.....Quote:
Originally Posted by aruvi
92-95, he gave Roja, which, according to Hindustan times has changed the face of Bollywood music......he gave Muqabla which was copied 6 times in hindi, Chandralekha was broadcast in MTV world (in 93).......he has used Global sounds rite from his early days.....u can see Tamil cassettes of ARR from 92-00' in many north indian houses still now.....Quote:
Originally Posted by aruvi
and ARR's success in HFM is a phenomenon which will not occur again and again......if it so easy then YSR shuld do it half-sleeping.......
well so much abt ARR in IR's section......bye :wave:
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Originally Posted by MADDY
dont know why YSR came into this topic???
Maddy,
I don't want to discuss ARR in IR's thread, either, but in response to your statements.
First you are contradicting your earlier statement, it seems. You had said Rahman has had only one style since 90's and it was global. That was what I disagreed with.
Then you admit his music has always undergone changes....
The change in his music is for universal appeal. And that is understandable, since he was/is reaching out to a different audience.
He had a long lull period during the late 90's. Since I was a big fan, I followed pretty much every article I could find about him and his music right till, maybe 2000. Kadhal desam, Iruvar,Dil se,Minsara kanavu...these films had hit songs, but barring Dilse, they received mixed reception. Iruvar, especially, had low sales, comparitively. But there are some IR fans who still think IR's music never dropped in popularity, this is like that.
"Although ARR started off with music that had western influence (pop genre), the sound was very Indian, and he and it wasn't too different."
I said that to make sure that the point of him having a global sound integrated in his music from the start. But then, there was a huge Indianness to it. Roja was a national hit. The sounds of Roja were totally different but very much appealing all over India. The song "Muqqabula" was a huge hit, yes, but in TN, all the songs of Kadhalan were a big hit. And frankly, Roja did not change the face of Bollywood music. For many years later, they churned out inane music, and none could have that ARR signature at that time. But then, everyone brought in the technical advancements and music has changed, all over India. Even a Western music genius like IR has stopped using violin orchestras, real instruments.
But if this is your argument, then IR has been copied numerous times by Bollywood. Of the top of my head, his song "Oh Priya Priya" a huge hit at that time, was copied. I am sure if IR was starting out in 92 instead of 76, and we had the same media, then he would have had his song played:-) Not to take away ARR's credit, he is a genius. And I have not been to many North Indian persons houses...so I wouldn't know. But most of the people I grew up here with and are friends can identify and know the likes of Roja, Rangeela, Taal, Dilse, Lagaan etc, but Vanchikotta Chinnarasu, Pudhyia Mugam, Thiruda Thirudi, Duet, Karuthamma...I don't think so.
What has YSR got to do with this? At the moment, he is the most popular MD in TN. Yes, I don't care for his music but hmmm...what to do:-)
Says bollywood lyricist Sameer is working with IR (and also with Kamal and Singeetham Srinivasa Rao's Maaya Bazaar).
But indha page title'a paarthadhum ("Now sameer goes south") gadhi kalangi poitten!!! :) Just to confirm that he is not by any chance writing "tamil" lyrics, I visited the page. He is working on all hindi versions of the respective movies! :)
http://hindi.galatta.com/entertainme...ws/sameer.html
thanks,
Krishnan
BTW, posted the below link in "Cheeni Kum" thread.
http://ww3.mid-day.com/news/city/2006/july/140645.htm
It says "Cheeni Kum" & "SHIVA" will have old IR hits rehashed.
thanks,
Krishnan