Neethane En Ponvasantham | Yeto Vellipoyindhi Manasu | Assi Nabbe Poorey Sau

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

...Am I right in thinking that only IR gives a true 'concert' experience among all active composers today.

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Absolutely, nobody writes music for a true orchestra. NEPV follows the grammar of a live, un-amplified orchestral music - when soft instruments are played alone without the sound of other instruments overwhelming it. In other words, you can take the songs and play live acoustically (without amplification) and it will come out fine (no need of mixing instruments at different volume levels).

BTW, watching the audience react to the orchestra- I think IR needs to give an intro to how to listen to a real concert. Just listening to the main tune is not enough. That is a trivial use case of an orchestra. You need to listen to the parts being played all the instrumentalists. Some of them are true counter melodies which sometimes can stand by themselves.

Its a pity in that noise the audience missed out on so much of the music being played. I guess, it still happens to all his film songs - appreciation for the tune, but no appreciation for the harmony,basslines, interludes etc.

Orchestral tribute

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nanRi Kameshratnam, for the youtube!

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

Am I right in thinking that only IR gives a true 'concert' experience among all active composers today.

Have discussed this before with Sureshs65 and recently on the passing with Rajasaranam in Twitter. If Organic composition dies and those artists who played in the orchestra, each one of them, turning obsolete replaced by plugin tools and play toys to make music, it just saddens one.

Later part of KV's post is so so true..

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post953460

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Absolutely right k_g. It will not just sadden me, deeply disappointed, may be that's when I will stop listening to any recent music. Glad that these viruses are often killed, till Raja is around. In that sense am very happy. Definitely I see a big big vacuum to Indian music after him.
Thanks for sharing KV's post, how did I miss that one? What a post that one! KV superb. :clap: :notworthy: Every word should be carved in gold.

Thanks Kamesh for the youtube link. Janma saabalyam! :notworthy: Unfortunately could not watch the Jaya TV telecast today. BTW, what is the instrument played @2:07?

The show which started with a very promising orchestra performance, faded off in to a boring and unnecessary elongated one.
Too much of anything loses charm. The directors group ( most of them with no other job now ) praising Raja - Sorry...we have seen it already..Gowtham, why did you repeat the same Dhoni way ? It would have been great to have eminent musicians sitting there and commenting about Raja.

Kudos to the Hungarian orchestra for bearing athe 5 hr long boring affair .

Watched the NEPV audio launch in Jaya tv, it's a totally priceless, matchless experience :notworthy: To see the songs performed live and to experience IR's tunes performed by the london orchestra is more than a dream come true. Hats off to Gautham for organizing such an event :notworthy:, the way the whole event was structured, shows his taste and his true love for IR's music :clap: :clap: :clap:

The passion with which the orchestra was playing the various songs was truly heart warming, they seemed to thoroughly enjoy the music they were performing. Audio was not perfect, esp the guitar sounded feeble in Mudhal Murai song. Karthik did a wonderful rendering NEPV songs and the on demand ones and Ramya's performance was as good as the original recording in both Saindhu Saindhu & Satru Munbu. Sunitha Sarathy was OK and I felt it was not in the same league as Sunidhi's rendition. Overall a great show and those who experienced it live are really blessed souls.

BTW, KV wonderful post about orchestral music, something which needs to be carved on stone :thumbsup: and thanks to KG for posting it here.

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Originally Posted by San_K

yov yuvan singing pudikkalainna kaatha pothikkongayya ellorum. Sainthu Sainthu was great to listen on live

BTW I missed the show on TV :sad: and hoping that Jaya TV will retelecast or youtubeee saranam

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san_K - Yuvar aanar fans mannikkavum, my 6 year old really closed her ears when he sang it on stage yesterday. She likes the tune - and does do a decent impression of the song. The recorded version she kind of really liked and sings with involvement (I have caught her singing it to herself when she is not noticing that I am noticing). (This and mudhal muRai - she sings it as "Nee dhaane endhan sondha bandham"*, **)But yesterday's version, even she could spot the deficiencies. Feel, youththu connect ellAm ok - but there is a line to be drawn some where. When that line is crossed, even I will start sounding like a stritt officer like baroque, thumburu etc :)


* - Therein lies a tale. During the 80s, I used to sing the Ninaivellam Nithya song as "nee dhaane endhan sondha bandham, pudhui raaja vaazhkkai". It was well into the 1990s before I realized it was "Nee Dhaane Endhan Pon Vasantham". :oops: Amazing how this carried over in the genes!

** _ Come to think of it, sondha bandham quite fits the lyrics no, anyway? (in the original movie, wherein the lovers forsake their families and therefore are literally the only sondha bandham to each other)

KV - :clap:.
Git - didnt i tell you ? This boy is a varungaala internet thooN(if not already)

Plum,

LOL at 'sondha bandham' :) BTW, seeing this trend in the third gen now. If you consider us the first gen and those who grew up with Rahman as second gen, then our kids are third gen. I have currently heard from atleast a dozen friends that their kids like NEPV. Mostly the rock based songs. Rajasaranam on twitter said that his son when asked which song he likes best says he likes all of them. And he also added that when he tried playing 'ilaya nila', his son asked him to stop it and play the NEPV songs :lol: We seem to be building a new generation of Raja fans.

KV,

Superb post. Very well articulated.

K_G,

True. The problem is that in most cases it has shifted from a 'musical experience' to just 'experience'. So many stage shows and singing shows on TV assume that the audience wants some 'experience' which involves music but not a 'musical experience'. For example, the Indian Idol (on Sony) started quite well in its first season with the focus mostly on music but then degenrated into some sort of X-factor stuff where you need to look good, dance good, cry good and what not. Unfortunate. As KV says, there is a definite musical experience to be had when a live orchestra play.

I was one among the fortunate souls who attended both Endrendrum Raja and the NEPV audio release functions. And needless to say I saw both programs again on Jaya tv too. The recording quality of the Endrendrum Raja is excellent and almost all instruments coulb distinctly be heard in the TV telecast just like the live performance. But the NEPV audio release telecast is a letdown as the quality is not up to the mark and some instruments could hardly be heard and kind of sounded feeble. After watching this I played the recoded version of Endrendrm Raja and the difference is noticeable.
It is a shame that the channels dont pay much attention to the recoding quality.