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Originally Posted by MelHarmony
Clarke Douglas radio show happened in 2009 after i persisted with him for several months!
then there were no CDs of IR on an international branded name - but now, we have NEPV released by Sony - i will wait for max another month to get hold of the physical CD form, before launching on a 'sending-it-to-reviewers-radio-hosts' spree that will include Clarke as well! he is very much in my loop!
Great discussion on IR's bgm. Countless number of films where we went only for BGM, even ignoring the songs. One film which still haunts me even today at just the thought of it, is Nooraavathu NaaL. I watched in DEvi theatre Sunday Noon show (full house). Right from the titles till the end, the movie had the best of background score and perfect silence wherever needed which chilled our spines and sent us shiver. The atmosphere will be electric. Will never forget the bgm in that movie. Those days the experience watching IR's move in Devi theatre is something extra-ordinary. Will be waiting for every movie released there. Same year we went for NeengaL KEttavai, Komberi Mookan all released in Devi theatre. We went just for the background score. Even the mediocre films richly enhanced by his music and importantly Devi theatre gave that rewarding experience. Remember I was only stuyding 10th grade when I watched those films and even at that young age, we knew what is BGM, could even appreciate most of the nuances and clapped most of the times. That's how Maestro has elevated each and everyone's taste right from kids to old alike. Great audience of 80s/90s. It was a memorable experience watching films with them.
Now a generation is growing without even having a hint of what is a BGM and appreciates whatever comes as music in the background as the BGM. Many does not even know what is orchestration. Even many of my friends/relatives in late 20s/early 30s does not even bother about the above two main aspects in film and music. They don't even know what it takes to compose a background score. The current crop of music directors, MakkaLOda rasanai'ya kuttichuvar aakkitaanga. BGM, orchestration, nalla tunes et al.. indha nalla vaasanyE padaama, music koduthu koduthu keduthutaanga. All they know is western beats. All of a sudden if they come to hear these terms, they have a different and bad opinion about these things. What a turn around and catastrophe! :sad:
யோவ், தெரிலன்னுதானேய்யா சொன்னேன்?!? இல்லன்னா சொன்னேன்?!? இதுக்கெதுக்குய்யா இம்புட்டு பேரு ரவுண்டுகட்டி அடிக்கவறீங்க?!? 80s ஃபேன்ஸ்னு நான் சொல்லாத வார்த்தை வேற! நான் கேட்டகரைஸ் பண்ணவேல்ல
allOv - andha generation IR BGM-ai silAgikka sollO dhAn BGM apdingaRadhu Tamizh Cinemala uchchathukku vara virumbum MDsku thavirkka iyalAdha oNNAA Agi pOchu.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
innum evLO nALukku indha thalaimuRai - which has no standards in music/BGM and prefers hit soundtracks (ennamo Edho etc) - ennamO andha thalaimURaiya vida rasanaiyil uyarndhadhunnu (ungaLaiyum aRiyAma innocentA/naive-A) sollikittirukka pORInga
"Mahendran Udhiri Pookkal eduthappO, 25 vAram Oda vechu nall padangaLin patron-ai irundhAdhu yAru? ellAm namma payaha(andha generation payahh) dhaen"
Different movienA Subramanyapuram, Paruthi Veeran rangela dhAn irukkum indha generation ellAm "Oh andha kAlathulEyE BGM ellAm rasippAngaLA")-nu pEsa kudAdhu :evil:
great irir to know he is in your radar! it was one great radio show on IR till now even our local Indian FM channels could not match in terms of its track selection and agenda! great work!Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
my wishes for NEP with him!
One thing i regret is, most of my impression will of course come from the place where i lived only, no?!? Whenever i read articles written by likes of suka, something like "i played an IR song, 2 strangers came, sat and we 3 where listening IR songs whole night" etc, and the characters they introduce, those who enlight them of IR's music, I had no such ppl around me.
I was totally a lone person when it came to rasichifying Kamal and IR. Yennu therila. With my very little extrovert skills, whenever i spoke with my friends, somehow none of them will be interested in 'talking' about music, be it IR or anybody. Silapala nigazhvugaL made me to go back to shell and not talk about IR at all.
While studying 3rd standard, i wrote a stupid letter to IR, only these lines i remember "எனக்கு ஒரு பியானோ வாங்கித்தாருங்கள். உங்கள் காலடி செருப்பாய் இருக்கிறேன்" I from no world, knoew how exactly a piano will look, at that time. I still wonder where i picked that word! I din't have raja's address and just wrote as "To, Illayaraja, Usman road, Chennai." And fortunately/unfortunately, my brothers saw that letter (b4 me even thinking of posting it), grabbed it and read loud in hall which embarassed me to the core.
Another one, i could not recollect the name of this song Anthimazhai pozhigirathu, and only knew its a kamal movie. So when once that movie was played in VHS, i asked, "when will that swimming pool song come?" my friend kids around me themself laughed at me!
Another time when i was listening to Thenpaandi seemaiyle, somewhat realising that this song is making un explainable feeling in me, and was in in kind of trance, was interrupted by my mom who said "Ungappaavukku sOga paattunnuaa pudikkaathu, off pannudaa" Then for many months i didn't touch the tape recorder.
WHen i start explaining how i was bullied by a rajini fan gang(ellaam sonthakkaara payaha thaan!), being a lone kamal fan, this space won't be enuf!
But this is what i feel, somehow i didn't at all get/try to get the right soozhal!
THat apart, my town is a superb rasanai place! Mouna raagam ran just 2 days! Naayagan itself released in a kind of abandoned theater far outside town. Many good movies didn't release at all!
During some recent IR fans meet, SKR was saying about his environment where carnatic music is mainstay and he easily identified raagas. I used to feel there was no such environment happened for me. Anyways, now, karai yeri vanthutten. Mayyam is a saviour for me :)
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Originally Posted by MelHarmony
its not that he is in my radar ! i approached him in 2009 in the first place, so how could i not include him for NEPV ?!
SKV,
Cool down friend :-)
It was definitely not any intention to question you or anything like that.
It's simply a defence against the general 'generation-gap' thingy - where one gen looks down at another (happens in both directions all the time).
As you can see from the spirited posts of many here, the peak of rAsA was marked by an increased appreciation of the finer aspects of TFM - such as interludes in songs & BGM ("re-recording") of films.
Not that they had their beginning with rAsA. TFM fans always appreciated such aspects. Even during my elementary school days (early 70's, pre-IR time period), my classmates used to tell movie stories accompanied by their vocal BGM :lol: A very easy example, like how famous the nAdhaswaram playing in Thillana Mohanambal was, should showcase anyone how much instrumental music had its followers in TN even prior to IR. IOKS used to play such pieces as the "theme music" for some of their programs. Even AIR at times played 'vAththiya isai' from movie records and I very clearly remember them playing a track from a Shankar-Ganesh movie!
IR's arrival gave unprecedented focus to TFM overall, even among people who hitherto didn't appreciate such finer aspects. What was once a 'only-high-society' appreciation has suddenly become a 'teakkadai talk'. That was the key difference. I remember my cousin feverishly explaining the sigappu rOjAkkaL BGM ("andhak kai maNNula irundhu varumbOthu oru music varum pAru...raththamE oRanju pOydum").
I don't know which part of TN you're from but I'm from a hamlet that was far far away from any big city and we had feverish conversations in school about interludes, BGM and the likes in late-70's. By 80's, in college and beyond, I had observed such discussions among a much wider set of people (who were not necessarily IRFs or big-time-followers of TFM, just ordinary people from all walks of life).
That's why whenever people slight earlier gens w.r.t. interludes / BGM, I need to post something.
I think we should not discredit the younger generation too much. People who are in the late 30s/40s did not have access to music as much as the current generation. We were limited to radio/tape recorders etc. Fortunately for us, the "limited music" we had access to was of high quality. We were coming from a traditional culture and the film MDs were watering down carnatic and mixing western classical and giving it to us. But today, because the access is so good, we get all genres and its imitations. We all can have our own opinion on which form of music is "high quality" but the good thing is young people get to listen to music first place (I remember, my younger brother sneaking a transistor radio to bed, forgetting to switch it of, draining the battery and getting into trouble with my dad). The younger generation may not appreciate IR's music or carnatic that much, but I am sure slowly they will get into all of this after a while. I dont mind some body else being #1 MD in sales .. I am fine with IR being #2 or #3 till he dies which I hope gets postponed forever.
Even today, I am on a wait-and-watch to see how much fan following saRRu munbu and muthan muRai gets.
(BTW, we should all appreciate Na. muthukumar for the high quality lyrics in this movie (did I hear kaapi in vaanam mella ?..werid) .. Good job guy.. if you maintain the same quality the enjoyment of IR's music will be doubled by your lyrics)
Here is the link for NEPV audio launch video
http://www.techsatish.net/2012/09/ja...ham-audio.html