Kamalhassan's Ideology in his films

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Originally Posted by P_R

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

the aruvaal castes of hindus?? andgellaam potrippaadadi penne paadittu kadaisila thaan ubathesam solluvaaru.

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kAttumirANdippaya koottam-nu thittiyum point-ai miss paNNi 'pOtri paadadi'yai anthem-A use paNNA ennA seyyuradhu

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exactly..

See, bhagyaraj is a holy cow who cannot be brought in this discussion :)
Were the strawmen brahmin men who existed in that movie did any better than reinforcing second hand cliches(presented in a crowd pleasing fashion) about brahmins? Not that he shouldn't create such characters but adhukku mattum cutout kamal(who presents much more nuanced critique - the kindal of brahmin mamis in functions is quite different from the movies made with vision on a well analysed pov)ku getoutA?

Plum, you forgot Bala, who makes it a point to ridicule Brahmins in every movie. :P

Flau, I thought INA was very measured. Mainstream melodrama-la sila pala cliche reinforcement irukkathan seyyin.

But overall it wasn't that offensive. In fact, romba bhavyamA sonnadhA dhaan thONichu with Somayajulu being 'respected' till the very end etc.

Recall the PanjAyathu scene where Bagyaraj talks about how ppl laud when untouchability is violated in divined stories but cling on to it fastidiously in real life: அது கூட இந்த மாதிரி பெரியவங்கலெள்ளாம் சொல்லி தான் எனக்குத் தெரியும்!

If even after all that, it is found offensive, nemba kastam.

Yes Plum, If Bhagyaraj in INA is offensive and scant in its representation, then what we make of effusively manipulative scenes of "Angadi Theru" and all?! :lol2:

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Originally Posted by P_R

Flau, I thought INA was very measured. Mainstream melodrama-la sila pala cliche reinforcement irukkathan seyyin.

But overall it wasn't that offensive. In fact, romba bhavyamA sonnadhA dhaan thONichu with Somayajulu being 'respected' till the very end etc.

Recall the PanjAyathu scene where Bagyaraj talks about how ppl laud when untouchability is violated in divined stories but cling on to it fastidiously in real life: அது கூட இந்த மாதிரி பெரியவங்கலெள்ளாம் சொல்லி தான் எனக்குத் தெரியும்!

If even after all that, it is found offensive, nemba kastam.

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i think its written by Balakumaran . :roll:

IMO Vedham pudhidhu was well presented except the climax where Janaks tries to create chaos by spreading rumour.

sometimes cinema reflects real life incidents.. may be incidents from the distant past also.. athukkaaga namma complaint panna koodaathu..

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Originally Posted by Plum

See, bhagyaraj is a holy cow who cannot be brought in this discussion :)

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"Kamalhassan's Ideology in his films" is thread title.....then from where Bhagyaraj came ?

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

Yes Plum, If Bhagyaraj in INA is offensive and scant in its representation, then what we make of effusively manipulative scenes of "Angadi Theru" and all?! :lol2:

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Ada adhillaipA. The extent of encouragement provided to such efforts as path-breaking critique on brahminism, and the general level of reception. What Kamal does(in his movies) is more important but receives brickbats, instead. As regards his speeches digging brahmin maamis etc, enna solradhu? ThavirthurukkalAm. But adhai nAn solla mAttEn. Sandiyar speechla left and right pala institutionsai attack paNNaliyA? More than hindu-muslim, I'd like Kamal to take on the pagutharivu iyakkam which has degenerated into another religion. Again, it is not something he is likely to feel for to the extent he felt against brahminism, which is nurtured from childhood.

Then again, given his birth, that will be the cue to complete destruction of him in TN. Paarpana dhrogi periyaar bhakthanA nadichikittirundurukkAnpA will be the refrain. It is a lot more difficult for guys like mani and kamal in this aspect. For Mani it doesn't matter because he skirts these issues and is interested in other things mainly. For Kamal to have this handicap is a loss not just to him.