IR concerts, TV shows and Interviews ...

thumburu :-).
Obviously, whatever I post is my opinion. I dont think I have ever argued that "rabbit I caught has 3 legs" here. Yeah, "here" means tfmpage because I have done that elsewhere in my life :-)

Kickbacks? Hmm...nadathungappa - I have no love lost with vijay as you can see in other threads nor do I have any hate lost with vijay(please vijay note:-)). I just post my opinions and in this case, I think both of you are right in your own ways - just trying to point out the other side to both of you - yeah, this is my failing or strength - I always try to empathise with everyone's point of view and can see that truth is infact multi-layered - the only thing we can seek is to try and get enough points of view so that we can see as large a picture as possible :-). .( Note the "try to" and please refrain from pointing out some post of mine where I failed in doing this :-))
Again, for all I know, vijay may come up with some other explanation for his opinion

For the record, thumburu, I agree with you that it wasnt HH's day - he made some attempts to improvise and enhance the show but he failed IMO. I think the reactions here in this thread echo that. HH's failures need not be linked to Shreya's mistakes - which the crowd did disapprove of clearly. That doesnt mean that the crowd approved HH overwhelmingly - idhu romba obvious so I dont think anyone is disputing this fact.

Raghu panchayathukku romba late-a vandhutaaru :)

This is definitely a first for tfmpage, debating over a concert performance. On the tfmpage forum, anything's possible :)

rajdes, I had mentioned in one of my earlier posts that I am not a big fan of HH's improvs myself(but that doesnt make him incompetent like you said). Its a matter of taste and thats what I was trying to tell Thops earlier, whereas Shreya's mistake(not once, but thrice) was'nt a matter of taste.

Finally happened to watch the 2 parts from archieves and third part live from Jaya TV
( thro' NUMTV)

What can I say,
I wish I was in Chennai during the concert,
God make Mottai have a concert here in US keep him and us alive till it happens

"Sundari Kannal" (oru) " song was enough for me worth entire NUMTV subscription.

SPB, Chitra were the best, Shreya was not bad except for sodappifying the "theduthey" in "Kaatril endhan" song.
Personally I like her voice, the 3 in one telugu version was very nice too by Shreya, I was hoping SPB to join her and sing the Telugu version.
Hariharan, stole more songs, unfortunately , I should say, I never liked his improvs anyway on the stage, atleast was happy that he did less of this than what I saw him do in ARR concerts. Only good thing about HH was the Kaapi aalap before the Olangal orchestration was better than the aalap we hear by IR in the Italy Concert CD.

Karthik and Thipu did well in their respective songs, IR looked like he was constraining Thipu during " Unnai vida" song

Nothing much to tell about Bhava as usual,

Orchestra was great in pretty much every song , mind boggling in "Sendhoora Poove" especially since IR agian made them do it few times ( wished this song in entireity, but since it was Bhava who sang , was happy it ended in the middle)

Arunmozhi was the champion, just fantastic in every song he played with umpteen number of flutes he used
I don't know if IR was pretending to conduct or pretending to cover up, knowing his style , probably he was micromanaging most of the times ( either because that's how is or he wanted to show how he is in a live concert)

SPB could have sung the telugu version of "Oh Priya priya" as opposed to Mano's tamil super dud version ( I started hating Mano after his massacre of this song in Tamil version)

My personal list of songs which I always wanted in my imaginary IR concert ,
1. Poomaalaiye thol sera vaa.... just for the mere orchestration and on the same note I am not sure how good a justice IR might have done with his live rendition)

2. Ilaiya nila ......why ....why and why edho lifetime le oru murai idhu maadhiri live concert aagumpodhu , why IR didn't have SPB sing this live

3. Any one song from "Panneer Pushpangal" ( except the vengaya saamabarum..obviously), preferably "Poondhaliraada...)


many more in the list, but these three gems would have been terrific,
Some non tamil songs could have been good too
I wish more elder/senior singers like PS, SJ,VJ, and MV were there to sing atleast 1 best song of each of them... (yes in my dream only)

Shivmani was good as usual, for some reasons, Mottaiy was kind of looking uneasy at the end trying to either tell him to stop or something and SP and group just started singing abruptly "isai thaan engal Vaazkai" ( that was my perception, I could be wrong)

As usual, Bharathiraja made his usual speech to teh extent people are getting annoyed.

kamal's speech was OK, It was just unbelievable how IR "cycle gap le" tried to clarify Kamal's statement right immediately about having an exclusive Live concert from Kamal - IR combo films with kamal's singing.

Haa.... Haa.. now comes the best part as how many celebrities were proud to make their heart felt love, addiction, and what not to Mottaiy's music from Vaali to G Thyagarajan ( it was really funny how G Thyagarajan was almost pleading them literally to sing "kannae Kalaimaane" song from their home production "Moonram Pirai").

Suhasini went to the extent of telling, how proud she is in being a Tamilachi, just because IR happens to be Tamilian....ohooo....call it Jalra what ever it is and yes keep it comin.....

Prabhudas

vijayr, I understood your POV clearly yesterday itself. As I said, I am just pointing out to you that from another angle, the angle I outlined, HH could be perceived to have been incompetent because his improv.'s destroyed the soul of the song. It just didnt fit in with the emotions of the song. Are you saying that , in your opinion,HH wasnt incompetent from that angle as well? (ie) do you believe that HH's rendition did complete justice to the songs' emotion and situation?

On an unconnected note, one song I hated purely because of HH was "Uyire" from Bombay. Somehow, it just didnt gel with me and the problem was that I liked the song for all other reasons :-)

More than in Unnai Vida, IR was restraining Karthik in the rendition of one song( I dont remember which) that Karthik sang along with YSR. YSR was pathetic and I think IR realised that and was trying to rein in Karthik just so that YSR's incompetence is not thoroughly exposed. That it was clearly exposed is another story.
Another thing I forgot to mention earlier was that "KR and YSR suck as singers", even as chorus singers, as was evident from their chorus for Janani Janani.

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Originally Posted by prabhudas

My personal list of songs which I always wanted in my imaginary IR concert ,
1. Poomaalaiye thol sera vaa.... just for the mere orchestration and on the same note I am not sure how good a justice IR might have done with his live rendition)

2. Ilaiya nila ......why ....why and why edho lifetime le oru murai idhu maadhiri live concert aagumpodhu , why IR didn't have SPB sing this live

3. Any one song from "Panneer Pushpangal" ( except the vengaya saamabarum..obviously), preferably "Poondhaliraada...)

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Absolutely! Those and a few more, but i guess he can't make everyone happy :)

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Originally Posted by prabhudas

Shivmani was good as usual, for some reasons, Mottaiy was kind of looking uneasy at the end trying to either tell him to stop or something and SP and group just started singing abruptly "isai thaan engal Vaazkai" ( that was my perception, I could be wrong)

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Shivamani was great inspite of the poor sound quality, esp early on in the show where his drums could hardly be heard.
IR was looking uneasy and tried to "mellow down" Shivamani in his Olangal "Mood Kaapi" rendition [Wonder why he did that]. In the final "Veetukku" piece, he gave the reins to Shivamani and it was Shivamani's song all the way. In fact, we could see IR applauding SM without restraint in
a) "Ninnukkori Varnam" 2nd interlude. Superb improvisation by SM in the bass drum
b) The whole of SM's thani avarthanam in the final piece.
Yeah, the "isai dhaan engal vazhkai" sounded abrupt and out of place.

prabhudas
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Finally happened to watch the 2 parts from archieves and third part live from Jaya TV
( thro' NUMTV)

What can I say,
I wish I was in Chennai during the concert,
God make Mottai have a concert here in US keep him and us alive till it happens

"Sundari Kannal" (oru) " song was enough for me worth entire NUMTV subscription.

SPB, Chitra were the best, Shreya was not bad except for sodappifying the "theduthey" in "Kaatril endhan" song.
Personally I like her voice, the 3 in one telugu version was very nice too by Shreya, I was hoping SPB to join her and sing the Telugu version.
Hariharan, stole more songs, unfortunately , I should say, I never liked his improvs anyway on the stage, atleast was happy that he did less of this than what I saw him do in ARR concerts. Only good thing about HH was the Kaapi aalap before the Olangal orchestration was better than the aalap we hear by IR in the Italy Concert CD.

Karthik and Thipu did well in their respective songs, IR looked like he was constraining Thipu during " Unnai vida" song
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I don't think Raaja Sir was constraining Thipu. As far as my knowledge goes, he made him to smooth his voice to suit Kamals voice . I don't have much musical knowledge, except listening ti music only. Tippus voice was not proper in the beginging, but as Raaja controlled it, even Tippu acknowleged it with asmile when he sounded almost like original later.

can anybody tell me where i cud download the song "naan porandhu vandhadhu" from "mayabazar 1995