Islamic Invasions ! Hindus Persecutions !

Elavar wrote :

"Thereafter, particularly following the crushing of the 1857 rebellion by the British, Indian Muslims fell into a state of depression and increasing backwardness, due to their mollah's refusal of British education (whereas the elite Hindus gradually went for it) and their nostalgia for the "glorious past"'.

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So only the elite Hindus went for it Eelavar ? Why not the others ? Can you talk about that also ? Who are they today ? All I can tell you is the are not the 90% of those who constitute India today.

I really want you to answer me on this one.

hI pizzalot . You have a lot to tell us ; only that you have unleashed so much at such a speed, the recipients are KOed or become comatose. Do not be discouraged; please help by organizing your facts with suitable headings, give them to us over a period of time step by step so that even the slow reader can catch up with you. I have already noted some interesting points in your posts. Am looking forward to elaboration from you; hope you will be sorting out what you have for us, making consumption easy and smooth. If you have text book references, will be happy to see them as well.

B I SIVAMAALAA

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Long long to sing by rote
I have no other choice
Either for pen or voice
To sing or write!!
They wrong thee much
That say thy sweet is bitter!!
When thy fruit is ripe and as such
Nothing can be sweeter!!
-- Hume.

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When the English just did that they occupied high-positions which enabled you and me to gain access to internet and participate in these forums.

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Today's population of Muslims is about than 15% of India's population even after SC and ST conversion. So during the Moghul period their population should have been far less than that. How could they have ruled the entire Indian population for over 700 years ? There lies the clue of for the dangerous nexus between religion and politics...

My knowledge in history is not that strong .But going by reason -This is possible .
How did British who are just 1/10 of the Indian Population( may be lesss??) able to rule India for 200 years ?

Ruling has nothing to do with the population.It has to do with the skill and power !!
Honestly i think the purity of history is gone .Its stuck between VHPs and the communists who twist the truth as they like.


My friends ,seek the truth and then form an opinion,not the other way .It is long process and not a one page discussion !!!!
Read ROmila Thappar as well as Arun SHourie so that you can see both the sides of the coin .

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

How did British who are just 1/10 of the Indian Population( may be lesss??) able to rule India for 200 years ?.

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british.......u mean the christians(now in india) or do u mean those brits who lived/ ruled for 60 yrs ago?

How come christians are ruling us now ???I referred to British ,who lruled us till 1947 ?

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

How come christians are ruling us now ???I referred to British ,who lruled us till 1947 ?

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ok!

Thanks for the encouraging words BIS.

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

Today's population of Muslims is about than 15% of India's population even after SC and ST conversion. So during the Moghul period their population should have been far less than that. How could they have ruled the entire Indian population for over 700 years ? There lies the clue of for the dangerous nexus between religion and politics...

My knowledge in history is not that strong .But going by reason -This is possible .
How did British who are just 1/10 of the Indian Population( may be lesss??) able to rule India for 200 years ?

Ruling has nothing to do with the population.It has to do with the skill and power !!
Honestly i think the purity of history is gone .Its stuck between VHPs and the communists who twist the truth as they like.


My friends ,seek the truth and then form an opinion,not the other way .It is long process and not a one page discussion !!!!
Read ROmila Thappar as well as Arun SHourie so that you can see both the sides of the coin .

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You took the entire population of UK ? Not just the ones who stayed and actually ruled ? They were just in few hundreds. They ruled because the people favored their rule over the Indian Kings. No "divide and rule" policy would have succeeded if the rule itself was unpopular.

All the British and Muslims had to do was to take care of these minority Indian elites. The elites are the ring-masters in India. The elites were masters in training the "majority beasts" successfuly for thousands of years. When the elite Indians forsaw a great career in British Government their loyalty shifted from Sultans to British. The "majority beasts" always obeyed their ring masters. Their art was more sophisticated than the British's "divide and rule". They exactly know when to bring-up the issue of "cow-slaughter" or "Ayodhya" or the "Hindu Kush".

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Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki

Today's population of Muslims is about than 15% of India's population even after SC and ST conversion. So during the Moghul period their population should have been far less than that. How could they have ruled the entire Indian population for over 700 years ? There lies the clue of for the dangerous nexus between religion and politics...

My knowledge in history is not that strong .But going by reason -This is possible .
How did British who are just 1/10 of the Indian Population( may be lesss??) able to rule India for 200 years ?

Ruling has nothing to do with the population.It has to do with the skill and power !!
Honestly i think the purity of history is gone .Its stuck between VHPs and the communists who twist the truth as they like.


My friends ,seek the truth and then form an opinion,not the other way .It is long process and not a one page discussion !!!!
Read ROmila Thappar as well as Arun SHourie so that you can see both the sides of the coin .

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You took the entire population of UK ? Not just the ones who stayed and actually ruled India ? They were just a few hundreds. They ruled because the people favored their rule over the Indian Kings. No "divide and rule" policy would have succeeded if the rule itself was unpopular.

All the British and Muslims had to do was to take care of these minority Indian elites. The elites are the ring-masters in India. The elites were masters in training the "majority beasts" successfuly for thousands of years. When the elite Indians forsaw a great career in British Government their loyalty shifted from Sultans to British. The "majority beasts" always obeyed their ring masters. Their art was more sophisticated than the British's "divide and rule". They exactly know when to bring-up the issue of "cow-slaughter" or "Ayodhya" or the "Hindu Kush" or "Varanasi Temple".

I always used to feel ashamed of when India was losing in Olympics and every game on the international forum. Even China bagged so many medals. But India will struggle for a single Bronze. I never understood how, having one-fifth of the world population, we did not deserve a single Gold in international games. We are united as a nation today. Then why have we not won ? As I understand it, India, with nearly 1 billion population is in reality, a few ring-masters and they suck in international competition. If you remove the undue previlege that they have got in India, they will be extinct in few years.

Some how I see a trend of micro-nationalism and development. See the states which take pride of themselves instead of "India". They seem to do better. Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Kerala and TN. They are doing much better compared to the States where pseudo-nationalism without micro-nationalism prevails. Then imagine the state of development if this micro-nationalism further moves down to the level of individual men and women being able to take pride in themselves regardless of their birth records !