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MADDY idhu vEra engayO pOgudhu !
I don't think this is about Islamic terrorism. ULFA enna Islamic terror group-A ? Several North East organization are a heady mix of Hindu, Christian, non-religious Maoists. All vareities are there. The government is quite secular in its stance if being soft on terror.
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Originally Posted by MADDY
In WB, the Left got booted out this time. idhai vida strong-A eppidi edhirppAi kaamikkiradhu ?
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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
illa, there is a basic assumption that "bulk" of terrorism in India is due to babri demolition, gujarat riots and long pending kashmir issue.......all 3 are perceived as anti-islamic oppression which led to terror breakouts in India......i agree to it.......without these events, terror wouldnt have come inside India (appadinum urudhiya solla mudiyaadhu).......but to hold on to the above 3 reasons and criticise any action taken against islamic terror and supporting govt going soft on terror is not happening.........something should be done to mitigate these risks instead of saying bombing wont solve problem, pota wont solve, hanging gilani wont solve etc....thats y i said, even to counter those 3 reasons, there are reasons from other side too......we cant hide behind that 3 points and let people die.....
Patriotism'a kindal panralavukku vandhaachchaa :shock:
Srilankan Goverment (My perception based on the majority hubbers post ) :- Tamizhargalai kollum theeviravaadha arasaangam... ilangayil vaazhum moththa thamizhinaththayum azhikka kanganakattikondirukkum arasaangam.
I dont think there is a difference between the guys( who are kindaladichchifying patriotism) and Srlankan government :sigh2: Srilankan Government , anga vaazhakkoodiya thamizhargala Srilanka makkal'nu nenachchirundhaa, avan avangala kolluvaanaa.. i mean avanukku patriotism irundhirundhaa thamizhmakkal than makkalaa nenachchiruppaanE :oops: prachchanayE irundhirukkaadhu :cry:
I meant Kandhamal - 'main assused' getting electedQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
"You" because you said Cinefan's post was fairly worded, which in essence means looking only at the 'determination to root out terror' :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
I get that PR. What i was referring to was the idea of "looking up to" (agree, as you said, the U.S is the U.S) them, as though they had nothing to do with Pakistan all this while etc. When we talk about parties conniving and being complicit when it comes to the SL issue, why is U.S seen just as a bystander who has nothing to do with this. I mean the hyphenated treatment, the "inga konjam anga konjam" policy etc.Quote:
Ok I should have worded it better. Here is what I was trying to say.
After Afghanistana and Iraq - US indeed reluctant in gettings its hair mussed in one more war. They care significantly less than India because they have their borders secured and they 'gain' little by invading Pakistan. On the other hand India will continue to suffer till Pakistan is in order. And either directly or indirectly things need to get done. That 'urge' is completely missing in the Indian intelligensia.
Very true! Arundhati Roy will rise in those moments :razz:Quote:
Now if India and US did anything in Pak. the anti-imperialists will descend on them. But as camps flourish and attacks happen the anti-imperialists will light candles and write about how imperialism caused all this in the first place. Which IMO misses the point of what needs to be done now.
However, the problem is this: There is overwhelming negation of the views and stance of Roys and leftists etc along with a blanket rejection of anything they stand for, while the hawkish tendencies get maximum mileage both because of and also in the pretense of the immediate threats at hand. Exactly why one is made to look like an unabashed Roy apologist :lol:
This is exactly summarized with the exasperated exclamation "ippo enga ponaanga andha human rights kaaranga"! :shock:
Hope you get what i mean
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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Sathiyama purila! Enna kekkanum? Nandigram-ku makkal Left-ku badhil kuduthuttaanga... Left power ku vandhirundhaadhaane kekkanum?Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
left's defeat is largely due to "astronomical anti-incumbency" and cong-TC combo....people punishum pannala, onnum illa.....left is still in power in assembly dhaane.......nest assembly election paarpom.....Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
also, nandigram never appears in Roys' and leftists discussion-ngradhu dhaan en karuthhu......even u singled out kandhamal and Gujarat but not nandigram......before the elction result too - did Akka Roy and co. question left on this??
Maddy,
You have assumed too many things and interpreted things which weren't said or meant
Let me summarize:
1. "then what is the solution, give me a solution" - these don't make sense IMO, for obvious reasons
2. Nobody has said in this forum that Babri Masjid = Birth of terrorism or whatever. I think there was a round of discussions on the same topic where everybody has pretty much said what one means. There is not a single post which indicated that a soft approach should be taken towards terrorists etc. Wonder how you got that notion.
About POTA etc, well good luck!!
Just remember that 'feeling good" or "feeling that justice has been done" is different from minimizing, mitigating and rooting out terror and its effects.
3. Jehadists' cause is greatly enhanced by state terror unleashed on minorities. Is that such an unfair statement to make? Or does it imply terror should be tolerated or whatever?
Yes, LET's manifesto reeks more of ethnic cleansing more than correcting wrongs etc... I don't think people can have two opinions on that...
4. Eelam issue pathi ellam erumbaala yarukkum theriyala nu solrom, atha vida mosam N.E nelavaram (i include myself in this list)
5. When everyone here expresses his unconditional sympathies and support (in whatever form and degree) for the Eelam cause and the Tamil lives lost, one never seems to do so when Islam is in question.
6. Islamic terrorism as a monolithic entity is not quite true. They seem to be cloaked and stoked by the same language of Jehad by the terrorists whos faces are 'visible' to us but you can find specific conditions and causes for 'local' support from different regions. Palestine >>>> Eelam in terms of nature and magnitude, however gross a comparison of peoples' suffering may seem. Why is nobody bothered about our Govts back-stabbing in this case? (Except to some extent, the left)?
7. Yes, i also wonder why the Arundhatis dont talk about Kashmiri Pundits.
ivvalavu dhaana illa vera edhavadhu irukka (enna ketukitten)...
Naama inga enna polambi enna use....
Adhu eppadi ivvalavu urudhiya solreenga? Eppadi solla mudiyum? Ok, nest election la pappomQuote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Why i didnt mention - because the left lostQuote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Why Roy didnt mention it before the election - Idha andha oor karangala thaan kekkanum (like why i dont remember reading about her talking about Kashmiri Pundits) :lol: