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Genesis,
Naan ungalai sathiyama sollalai.
ipodhum solren - Yar ellam evvalavu padichangalo,
evvalavu purinjukarangalo -
AVVALAVU Rasikaranga... adha solranga...
sonnadhil - ungalai enga insult panradhu?
idhil IR muisc in 70 and 80 - simple nu
enga artham varudhu..
pl - arambathil naan sonnadhai parungo..
IR music is like Science and Maths.......
ipo sollunga...
Ungalai enga insult panninen..
IR music ai - epadi simple nu sonnen.............
genesis,
If you can skip / FF the likes of 'kaNNil pArvai' and 'kunnaththE' (because you get much greater music nowadays from other sources or find it impossible to step aside from IR's older works), then, well, good for you :-)
Enjoy!
genesis... the best analogy would be heart / mind one.. his later compositions are technically more complex for sure but same time his earlier ones were more like high on emotions.. childlike quality of exploring new territories...
Somehow when i hear the early songs i come to a conclusion he never wanted to finish it... the ending is very abrupt almost out of necessity...
The later ones were complete package each and every aspect is paid a meticulous attention... but as pointed out by suresh how he maintained the heart aspect through out all the time.. that is something really great...So much so that he is only artist in my opinion who balanced both the right and left part of brain when it comes to creativity.....( Again "polla vinayen" from thiruvasagam is a very apt example... such a great orchestration, as usual mathematical precision... but the emotion comes from his voice.. it really balances otherwise it could have become pure technical experimentation of fusion music)
genesis,
one more word - Enaku - sathiyama - indirect aga pesa theiryadhu.
Neruku Nera - en opinion ai sollitu than
maru velai.
IR songs kaekaradhu patri - en karuthai sonnen.
unga post aiyae paarkalai...
ipo dhan - yen ennai solreenga nu poi padichitu vandhen.
unga post in karuthu - enaku puriyavilali.
Neenga enna solla vareenga.......
Narayanan,
Nice posts!
Your post brought back some of my memories...
Though I was born in mid 60's and grew up listening to MGR-Shivaji songs (ofcourse through all the available means those days - valve radio that required license, transistor radio, vinyl disk player, big "spool" tape player in the school in which the HM recorded my voice -"நெஞ்சம் உண்டு நேர்மை உண்டு ஓடு ராஜா":D and "mike-set-horn-speaker" blasts), I never recognized / related any of those music to the composer those days. Definitely knew that an entity called MD existed (titles used to show mellisai mannar for MSV in movies those days and the name Kannadasan was also well-known; both vividh bharathi & IOKS used to announce names of kavingar / isai amaippALar). However, never connected any song with any MD while listening, enjoying.
Singing aloud while running around (before / after school hours) was a standard exercise for most of our gang (mostly "horse" songs like the one mentioned above, accompanied by 'tok-tak' sound made using our tongues).
Then came Bobby & YKB which occupied most of the horn-speaker time at the school functions and I loved those songs and promptly replaced the TFM ones. That was in early 70's prior to annakkiLi. While my father's vinyl collection still had only MKT / NSK / MGR / Shivaji, most of my town-living relatives have switched to Bobby-YKB - dhum mErA dhum - piyya too etc.
Prior to annakkiLi, it was 'elanthappazham' that held the record # of disks sold, as reported by kumudam / AV kind of magazines, which happily announced how annakkiLi broke that record!
It won't be an exaggeration to say that annakkiLi and later bathra kALi (precisely 'machchAnappAththeengaLA' & 'kEttELE ingE') were on every horn speaker of every function in TN villages!
I remember singing a few lines of 'kEttELE ingE' as a hen-pecked-husband character in a school one-act play :-)
sorry eagle, i could not contribute anything to the thread topic.
thanks app-engine and others.
raja has written about msv and his own arrival in his 'autobiography' - yaarukku yaar ezhudhuvadhu or nilacharal - i dont remember.
'msv was not having enough chances as he used to have, in the late 70s. i used to think "what a selfish and ungrateful world this is! the man who gave immortal songs does not have a patron, because they have found another winning horse. the same will happen to me too, money being the only deciding factor"..................'
raja was fully aware of the functioning of the cine industry. thats why he kept a distance from the core industry and confined himself to music and nothing but music.
being philosophical is one big hindrance to lead a normal life. there is one 'rendungettaan' phase for every spiritual aspirant. in advanced stages he cant lead a normal life anymore, as he is aware of the futility of the mundane process called life. and the surrender process is not fully complete, so with great reluctance one has to continue with this worldly life also, until providence takes over.
i can only empathise with raja. success or failure has nothing to do with raja anymore. if it is the will of the supreme we may get more great music from him, or else it is not to be so.
I did not grade 70s/80s music as lower grades. You still dont get the point (or pretend not to). If you genuinely didnt get it, then please re-read it as many times as you want till you get it. Also see eagle's explaination.Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
As regards to your point on insulting, no one can insult you without your permission :lol: Idhu naan sollala pa, gandhi ji sonnadhu. So dont get upset.
welcome narayanan sir! eagerly await more posts from you. There is something more which he also said which may explain why he distanced himself from the big ones of the cinema world - i think he also says,"before they ignore me as well, as they have done to a legend like MSV, i should move away from them." (i dont know if i have got the words right, but this is the summary of his thoughts) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by naarayanan
yes vel, your words are more correct than mine.
and i wanted to ask you for a long time. you had mentioned 'pudhiya poovidhu' as savitri, if my memory serves me right. is it not suddha dhanyasi? 'ga' chinnadhu dhaan sariya varudhu.
Naarayanan sir (i will call you NR hereafter) - pls let us take this query to raga of songs thread. The page is here - http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewlite.php?t=13767 . Your valuable contributions are required in this thread :)