Happy to see IR not falling in to the caste trap laid by such leaders !
Well done Raja ! :)
Happy to see IR not falling in to the caste trap laid by such leaders !
Well done Raja ! :)
சாருவோடு ஒரு நேர்காணல்
"இளையராஜாவை விட யுவன் ஷங்கர்ராஜா பல மடங்கு இசை ரசனையுள்ளவர். ‘ புதுப்பேட்டை ’ யில் அவர் கொடுத்திருக்கும் இசை பெரிய சிம்பொனி மாதிரி இருக்கிறது. மேற்கத்திய இசையில் ரொம்பவும் ஆழமான ரசனை உள்ளவனால் மட்டுமே இதைச் செய்ய முடியும். அதே போல ஏ.ஆர்.ரஹ்மான் ‘ குரு ’ படத்திற்குப் போட்டிருப்பதும் உயர்தரமான இசை என்று சொல்ல முடியும். நான் எழுதிய இசைக் கட்டுரைகள் ‘ கலகம் காதல் இசை ’ என்று தொகுக்கப்பட்டு சமீபத்தில் ஒரு புத்தகமாக வந்திருக்கிறது. இதுதான் எனக்கும் இசைக்கும் உள்ள உறவை வெளிப்படுத்தும் சான்று. இளையராஜா பற்றி இன்னும் சொல்ல வேண்டும் என்றால் அவருக்கும் மேலாகச் சென்று இசையில் சாதனை செய்தவர்கள் சுமாராக பதினைந்து பேரையும் மறந்துவிட்டு , மறுத்துவிட்டு இவர் இருப்பது நன்றி கெட்டதனம். ஒருவன் தன்னை இசைஞானி என்று கூப்பிட்டால் , எனக்கு முன்னால் பதினைந்து ஞானிகள் இருந்திருக்கிறார்கள் என்று தன்னடக்கத்துடன் அவர் சொல்லியிருக்க வேண்டும்."
http://pinnaveenathuvam.wordpress.co...#2994;்/
என்ன கொடுமை சரவணா இது ???
pulavarE. idhu engalukku romba pazhagi poachu.Quote:
Originally Posted by pulavar
Aduththu paithiyathodu paththu naal appdinnu oru serieslayum idhe katturai varum.
Freeya vidunga.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
You could not have put it better!
A perspectiveon Sathyan.
Sathyan is a pioneer in introducing believable stories with subtle performances, socially relevant themes , targeting family audiences, laced with humour that is never of the not over the top kind. He has initially done this in the company of Srinivasan(the script writer of most of his films). The target audience for his films are not the college going or tech- freak ones. He is even today considered the number 1 director in Malayalam & the # 3 in terms of a Brand on box office draw, after Mammootty & Mohan lal – His target audience being the family & Ladies. Even today, Sathyan’s films are the first choice for a middle class family – something they would go to blindfolded. In a way, he has been a trendsetter for these kind of ilms in Malayalam – with many like Fazil,Kamal,Srinivasan,Priyadarshan etc. following this model.
Recently, I had watched an interview of Mohanlal in a Channel, where he interviewed his mother. While explaining, what she disliked & what she liked, she mentioned – “I like u doing those Sathyan films - & the songs like in Innathe Chintha vishayam - Manassiloru poo maala – I enjoy them a lot”. Mind u – that’s not the best picuturisation or the best of Sathyan films recently – That’s the Sathyan hold on the Lady audiences tastes! In fact I find a similar echo from many of the women.
Every director ultimately belongs to a particular league or format – the canvas or segment targeted may be different. Sathyan is , in my opinion, in the league of Hrishikesh Mukherjee or Basu Chatterjee, who produced one of the most believable films, somewhere connecting to the life of a middle class or common man. In Hindi films too, the 70’s period of Hrishikesh/Basu is probably the golden period. After losing way, they are now connecting back with some good films/ film makers in between. Sathyan , now into his 50th film , somehow has been able to sustain the charm & sway over audiences, consistently delivering box office success with simple themes even after 30+ years in films.
A related facet about Sathyan is his consistency in what he beleives- he does not change even the artistes he is comfortable working with.
In every interview he keeps saying, "there are 3 people I deeply revere, two are Yesudas & Ilaiyaraaja, whom I consider fortunate enough to be born with in the same era, Ilaiyaraaja whom I consider equally fortunate to be able to also work with, watching the music getting to form (One example he quotes frequently for this - is the Melleyonnu song of Manssinakkare, which he says was unbeleivaly the same as what he was looking for, when he explained to IR) & the 3rd is Mohan lal whom I enjoy directing , watching his effortlessness & spontainety".
A trivia- although he started off as a lyricist for 10 years, having written more than 100 songs before learning & directing films, he has not written a song for IR so far. Looking at his track record at songs, that would be something to look out for. That's also a factor why songs in his films stand out.
As a film director, he has been writing his own story / dialogues etc. apart from directing his own scripts probably since Manasinakkare. Earlier, when he teamed up with Srinivasan for the story/dialogues, the films were laugh riots.
Alone, the comedy factor is definitely lower. The news is he is teaming up with Srinivasan for the next- a sequel to Sandesham, that was a superb film.
Saagar,
Welcome back :) We were missing you when we were discussing Raja of 80s, 90s and 2000s in Malayalam. That is a very nice perspective on Sathyan.
I have only watched movies of Sathyan which Raja has given music to. As you say the target audience is very clear in all the movies, be it KKS, Innathe Chinta Vishayam, Vinodayatra, Rasathantram etc. (Yet to watch Bhagyadevatha.) My wife also likes these movies but says "they are good, but there is nothing much in them." (She is used to Tamil movies :D ) Anyway, I think that is Sathyan's forte, a glimpse of the rural life with age old values that keep pulling the audience in. Raja understands that and tailors his music accordingly. I don't think any of the Sathyan - Raja combination was a letdown in terms of music. As you say, even 'Innate Chinta Vishayam', songs of which I thought were not major hits, have actually reached lot of people. Lot of people love the 'kandu kandu kaaka kuyile' song and it fetched some award to M G Sreekumar as well.
digression
The best film by Sathyan (among those I watched) is 'nAdOdikkAtRu' by many many miles :-)
And the best song ever for his films, IMSO, is 'vaishAka sandhyE' (by Shyam, both KJY & KSC versions) :-)
end-digression
app,
Continuing the dig. If I remember right, you were the one who posted the 'vaishaka sandhye' quite some time back. I downloaded it then and listen to it often. A lovely song and a very natural picturisation. Shobana is so very good and natural in this song. Somehow the Tamil version of the song did not appeal to me as much as the Mal version.
Since it is a dig, another song in which the heroine is very charming and natural is 'sharadindu malardeepa' song. Someone in youtube wrote, how can one not fall in love with Shoba after seeing this song. Fully agree with that person :)
/ end dig
Dont recollect if this movie is included in IR's malayalam new movies:
"Alexander the great", malayalam movie with Mohanlal in lead has music by IR. Shooting has resumed, it seems. BTW, its not a historical movie.
http://malayalam.galatta.com/enterta...ing_35855.html
thanks,
Krishnan
Breaking news! "All About Jazz" publishes review of Maestro.Ilaiyaraaja's music for PAA and KERALAVERMA PAZHASSI RAAJA....
Renowned jazz music critic/columnist Chris Slawecki reviews/critiques Maestro.Ilaiyaraaja's recent best-selling album "PAA" for Allaboutjazz.com, the web's premier resource for jazz music.
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/arti...?id=35635&pg=4
Snippets:
'the bright and colorful "Mudhi Mudhi Ittefaq Se," the sound of internationally-contemporary jazz—jazz that sounds at home in any nation—painted in colorful strokes behind a female vocalist who chases its light melody the way that a kitten chases a kite tail'
Enjoy!!
PS: since Chris Slawecki is essentially a jazz music critic, it would be unfair to expect him to write about the nuances of Indian classical music elements used by IR in either of these albums - plus, the slot(s) given for reviews of albums is/are limited - so, pls bear in mind, these factors while reading the reviews
irir123,
:notworthy: :thumbsup: :clap:
No words to express our gratitude to you for taking it this far in a single minded fashion. The reviewer knows his music, that is something I can definitely say. It is gratifying to note that keen western ears are able to 'get' what Raja is trying to do. (As you say they may not know Indian classical music much but seem to understand what is being done.) Excellent review and that too from a top magazine.
Once more, hats off to you for all your efforts.
From the evergreen classic Shawshank Redemption "Andy Dufresne: [in letter to Red] Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
"Great things are not done by impulse, but by a series of small things brought together." - Vincent Van Gogh
my humble, tiny contribution to this genius!
irir123,
You are actually doing what every Raaja fan wants to do... that is propagating his music across boundaries... (and back of mind always wondering why he is not a icon of music in the global arena) the day is not far off when the world realizes the genius of Raaja thanks to people like you.. Hats off!!!
eagle sir - first, if you are a true fan, start buying his original CDs (if you are not already doing so), second, one man cannot do everything, its upto IR to take this up further by getting himself labels that will help make his CDs available readily/easily onlineQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
even now, he is not in anyway an icon in the world arena - he does not have to be - its just my little effort to get some review and it worked thats all
I have been buying his original CD's and LP's and EP's... and i have a good collection and intend to buy even more as and when i find them...
But honestly i have to admit what forced to me to buy original CD's is my investment in a audio setup..i always had a good MP3 collection and never felt guilty about it....if some fan wants to listen to his his old songs and if he is going to listen to them only using an ipod or some gadget like that i dont want to blame him....of course this is strictly my personal opinion...
And coming to Raaja recognized as an icon in the world music... if that is not the purpose of propagating his music that i wonder what else would be... notified and appreciated by some critic is to me is not a big thing... cos starting from Michael Townsend to Paul Marriat to MASSIMO SIMONINI knowledgeable people have appreciated this genius...
The ultimate honor for this man would be he recognized as a living legend...an icon...nothing less than that.. your effort also in a way contributing to that...
Madhan :notworthy: again
Seven Steps to Soul :clap: :clap:
irir3 :notworthy:Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
Bala sir - ungalukku oru kosuru news - an independent french filmmaker is right now watching/reviewing 'Hey Ram' - intended for IR's BGM, but am sure she wud actually end up taking notice of the brilliant filmmaking besides the music!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
will give updates later
:cool2: So this must be the second piece of good news you'd promised us :)
I would encourage ppl here to visit PFC and check out the piece written by Tushar on end credits and provide your thoughts about some wonderful end credits of films done by Raaja.
several pieces of news in the offing - but am keeping my fingers crossed, before anything actually happens!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
irir123,
You are simbly greatttt !
Awaiting big big news ! God bless you !
raja_fan
are you simply saying simbly or only simbly trying to say simply? it is NOT simble to simbly be simply. you can be simble if you choose to but very difficult to be simple unless you are simbly gandhiji reborn. but, i simbly like you simble excitement about the pimble of the music composer who is not causing any more dimbles since ambili ammamma became simply chandamama, if you see the simble yet no so simple point i am trying to make here.
irir123 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :notworthy: :notworthy: thanks a ton!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
<dig>Quote:
Originally Posted by natha1729
onniyum puriyala.. :roll:
natha1729,
neenga visu fana...
<End Dig>
irir123=Madhan-A? Aha! idhu theriyAma moonu dhadavai ticket vAngittEnE? :lol:
Madhan, ipponnu illai, pala varusham munbu tfmpage-la-yE unga single-minded determination to spread Raja's music paarthu viyandhirukkEn. Once nInga, enakku oru task kuduthInga - I had just moved to Hyderabad, and you asked me to find something in some obscure library in Hyderabad(Raja related). somberithanathula matrum mozhi prachnainAla choicela vuttutten. naanlaam adhai kooda paNNalai.(Think you were in Goa then).
I will never call myself a Raja fan again - ungala maadhirpattavanga needuzhi vaazhaNum, Raja fan-nu sollikka thagudhi ungalai maadhirpattavangalukku dhAn irukku.
தங்களின் பூர்வாஷ்ரம பெயர் என்னவோ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Vekka padala, vedhanappadala, perumappadrenda kannaaaaa... :razz:Quote:
Originally Posted by raajarasigan
NExt release is Padiththurai - The director is a well known blogger and has been very neutral towards Raja's music and sometimes even critical of his personality. LEts wait for Suresh Kannan's padiththurai and any flies on the wall of prasad studio pls share what is happening to 'Happi'?
Oriental Records have started releasing lot of Raja's films of 80s. Yesterday I bought 4 such audio CDs. They are:
1. Paadu Nilave / Mann Vasanai / Davani Kanavugal
2. Chinna Tambi Periya Tambi / Jallikattu Kalai / Paatuku Oru Thalaivan
3. Mallu Veti Minor / Soorasamharam / Panakkaran
4. Thambiku Enda Ooru / Aan Pavam / En Purushan dhan enakku mattum dhan
I also saw 'Idaya Kovil' and 'Udaya Geetham' combination. Everything is now priced at Rs.75/- which is quite good I would say. These are audio CDs and not mp3s.
Since I got these in Bangalore, I guess you will definitely get them in Chennai and other parts of TNadu. Good that these guys have started releasing these albums.
CT-PT was by Gangai Amaran I think :roll:
Sureshs65 - Oriental Records always had these CDs on its website! but, I simply dont understand how the copyrights things works now, given that IR has announced all copyrights of pre-2000 releases to AGI Music!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
and now Oriental is happily releasing the very same CDs under its label, for which AGI Music apparently holds the rights !!??!!
idhula comedy enna vendral, if IR decides to send a legal notice to Oriental over this, it is likely not to work, since the original producers actually have the entire rights and in the absence of legal documents having been signed between producers of pre-2000 releases and IR, its free-for-all scenario! I cant imagine every 'thagara dappa' producer with cash to invest in a film, wud have even thought along these lines during the 1980s/1990s!
so, I see that AGI Music is busy releasing a big volume of 1980s/1990s IR songs, many of which come from the CDs Oriental has released !!
unless Oriental and AGI Music have signed some kind of an agreement (which i very much doubt), this is a classic legal swords-crossing moment!
SNAFU! in tamil, 'sariyaana dandanakka' situation!
irir123,
I think Oriental Records have distribution rights in US.. but later on they decided to target indian market as well but that happened very recently. if you see in their website the pricing will be in US$.
But as fans we have no reason to complain... i used to buy them when it was priced here Rs.125/ each... now they slashed to Rs.75/.... Good quality recording...but most of the albums were released under echo banner (which raja owned in the past?)
Very difficult to get the albums were released under visiri symbol...like "nadodi thendral" i have reason to believe that its available only in cassette ..of course we have no chance to get his old albums like "eera vizhi kaaviyangal" as audio CD's....
Chinna Thambi Periya Thambi is by IR and not Gangai Amaran. Many websites including Thiraipaadal have this wrongly credited to GA. The songs of CTPT are my fav and have enjoyed them since they released. For instance, "Maaman Ponnukku" stretches MV vocals to the fullest!! Similarly the Prabhu-Nadiya duet "Oru Kaadhal enbadhu" has a superb flow with awesome interludes.
Shank,
I remember seeing the posters mentioning GA (when it got released, during my bachelor days, my collegues went to watch it but I skipped).
The movie seems to be on the web :
http://www.techsatish.net/2008/09/09...ie-live-links/
I can't see the video now, any who can watch can confirm who is the MD as per titles on screen :-)
Oriental records have been selling these 80s/90s albums forever!
Our local video/audio stores at San Jose..'everthing must go' bin, I have found some of the finest albums of Ilayaraaja... sometimes they have given CDs for just 50 cent.
http://www.orientalrecords.com/filmp...p?categoryid=3
Oriental Records,
Please add product details.
http://www.orientalrecords.com/
Oriental Records is my favorite, they have fine hindustani, carnatic collection too. :musicsmile:
சின்னத்தம்பி பெரியதம்பி is by கங்கை அமரன்.
it is in
பாட்டுக்கு ஒரு தலைவன், ஜல்லிக்கட்டு - ilayaraja combo by oriental records.
vinatha.
App engine...you are right...I checked the titles and was stunned!! :-)
Considering "mazhayin thuiyil" number in that album its equally revealing for me... must be figuring on top 5 albums done by GA?
T.Nagar, Bazulla Road.
The address:
MUSIC SHOPPE
Vignesh & Co.,
No.10, Bazullah Road, T.Nagar, Chennai - 600 017.
Phone: 4212 33 93, 2834 16 44.
(Thank you Venkat, MSVTIMES).
My Appa got me amazing collections from this shop last time when he visited.
I love when people bring me music goodies!:bluejump:
vinatha. :)