Khan Saheb Kamal Haasan's Jamaat/Jeba Koottam/Devasthaanam - Part 8

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Originally Posted by Siv.S

நம்மவர் என்ற படத்தில் நான் வரலாற்று ஆசிரியராக நடித்தேன். வரலாற்றுக் குளறுபடிகளைப் பற்றி நான் செய்த விமர்சனத்தை என்ன காரணத்திற்காகவோ சென்சாரில் வெட்டி விட்டார்கள். அதைச் சேர்க்க வேண்டுமென்று நான் வாதாடிய போதும் அவர்கள் ஏற்கவில்லை. அந்தப்பகுதி இதுதான்.

முகலாயர் ப்டையெடுப்பு என்றும், வெள்ளையர் வருகை என்றும் நாம் பாடம் சொல்லித்தருகிறோம்.முகலாயர்கள் இங்கு வந்து இங்குள்ள பெண்களையே திருமணம் செய்து கொண்டு இங்கேயே அரண்மனையைக்கட்டி ஆட்சி செய்தார்கள்.இந்த நாட்டை அவர்கள் வளப்படுத்தினார்களே தவிர, இங்கு சுரண்டி ஆப்கானிஸ்தானுக்கு கொண்டு போய் சேர்க்கவில்லை.

ஆனால் ஆங்கிலேயர்கள் இங்குள்ள வளங்களை சுரண்டி பிரிட்டனில் சேர்த்து வைத்தார்கள்.அவ்ர்கள் இந்த நாட்டை தம் நாடாக ஒருபோதும் கருதியதே இல்லை. ஆனால் முகலாய மன்னர் பகதூர்ஷா ”இந்த நாட்டில் என் உடலை புதைக்க ஆறுகெஜம் நிலம் கிடைக்கவில்லையே என்று கண்ணீர்க்கவிதையை பர்மா சிறையிலிருந்து எழுதினார்.

இந்த நாட்டை வளப்படுத்தியவர்களை படையெடுத்தவர்கள் என்றும், சுரண்டியவ்ர்களை வருகை தந்தவர்கள் என்றும் எப்படி சொல்லலாம் என்பது நான் வைத்த விவாதம்

- கமல ஹாசன்

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oversimplification at its best / worst!

someone should ask Kamalji - who built the original Indian railroad system (being now used by more than 85% of India) ? nizam of hyderabad ??

the brits came for doing business and thats it - exploiting indian society's weaknesses for their personal benefits was collateral and convenient - would it have made it any different, if Lord Mountbatten wished his body was buried in New Delhi ? wud that have made him a 'true lover' of India !

comeon, I expected much more than such sentimental flavoring of our history from India from someone as intelligent and rational as Kamal !!

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Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan

For the last 10 years or so, whoever is making a big budget movie, nobody is considering IR as MD, that too particularly city based subjects.

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London padaththukkE rAsA music pOttu hit Ayirkku (cheeni kum).

So much so that the director-AB team followed up with pA. rAsA's score for both movies can easily be called 'international standard modern' score.

Both may be not-so-big-budget if one sees from a bollywood POV. However, city-modern-etc biz is not a problem for rAsA, even when he is close to 70. He is one-stop-shop for ANY kind of music, even today :-)

Also, though the movie is not out yet, NEPV is a biggie where one of the current top directors of TF is working with rAsA. (May be because Gautam had friction with HJ and ARR's dates were not available; but he could have easily gone to latest youththu MDs but chose IR instead. )

Other than the 'city based' thingy, if one goes solely by 'big budget' criteria, the most expensive movies in MF & TeF in recent times (pazhassi rAjA & sri rAma rAjyam) had rAsA music only.

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Originally Posted by KV

can someone please post the video link for that car passing over trench camera shot from aboorva? nandri andi!

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Re-request.
here's what i was referring to:
"After a while, he jumped up and went off to where the action was. We watched as he engaged in animated discussion with the cinematographer and crew.Various people hurried away. A while later, one of them materialised with a shovel and everyone, Kamal included, took turns to dig a trench, about six feet long and a few feet deep.
Once the trench was dug, Kamal grabbed the camera and jumped in, then stretched out flat on his back. From that position, he talked the cameraman through the shot he had in mind.
See, he said, the camera shoots up at the sky, fringed by a few tree branches in the foreground. Then, as the car rolls over the trench, it blocks out the view, everything turns dark. Then, if you rise with the camera as the car is rolling past the trench, you will get this big white blur, and as it rolls away from you, the blur will gain definition, and be recognisable as a car.
The shot could end from that same ground level position, with the doors opening and feet spilling out on both sides.
It might be more fun to shoot that way than to have the same boring long-range shot of a car driving up, Kamal told the cinematographer."



lingu yevvaru dheggara nu lEdha?

My 3 posts above, however, doesn't mean I have any expectations that KH will work with IR for any future Indian / International projects. (I don't think it will happen ever again, given the MX debacle and the subsequent successes KH had working with others. If any such miracle happens, won't be disappointed, however).

My posts were basically to clarify the post that wrote-off rAsA as a non-contender for city-based or big-bud movies anymore. Even in TF -where he is currently an untouchable for almost all big names, he is in NEPV today :-)

எது எப்படின்னாலும் "நேத்து இல்லே நாளை இல்லே எப்பவும் அவ்ர் ராஜா" ஃப்ரீயா விடுங்க!

If Kamal Sir makes hollywood movie then we can see first indian-based hollywood movie which talks about indian culture without exaggerting only the bad side of Indian culture or indian country in general.

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Originally Posted by app_engine

London padaththukkE rAsA music pOttu hit Ayirkku (cheeni kum).

So much so that the director-AB team followed up with pA. rAsA's score for both movies can easily be called 'international standard modern' score.

Both may be not-so-big-budget if one sees from a bollywood POV. However, city-modern-etc biz is not a problem for rAsA, even when he is close to 70. He is one-stop-shop for ANY kind of music, even today :-)

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These 2 movies do not come under the category I mentioned.. these are medium budget movies ...

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Originally Posted by Cinemarasigan

These 2 movies do not come under the category I mentioned.. these are medium budget movies ...

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Me too mentioned it in the post. But then, when was rAsA ever part of a indhi biggie? That he even tasted success in indhi was only with these two - which is quite a history when he is not ruling his home market :-)

These examples were quoted only for "city-based-modern-score" and not big bud.

BTW, there's a news item that Sony bagged NEPV audio rights for a decent sum...though IR is not marketable alone nowadays, given the combo - people can still take rAsA :-)