MK trailer - cheran appears to be a more polished TRajendar in the rather naive way in which he explains his whatever he has in mind!
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MK trailer - cheran appears to be a more polished TRajendar in the rather naive way in which he explains his whatever he has in mind!
After a looooong time, I was completely bowled over by the first interlude of the yelae yenge from mayakannadi.
One thing that seems to be apparent to me is that songs of IR these do not sound good on any web version or low quality version and they are made for good sound systems and good quality. It was not the case before.
I like anumanaspadam from recent times...and that too only after few listens. I still miss the grandeur and charm of his earlier music. Earlier today, I was listening to Malayoram mayilae song...and that really symbolizes what many people say they miss...the sparkle in that song...the innumerable decorations to the song...and at the core of it a very simple and catchy tune.
Please listen to the first interlude of the yelae song from mayakannadi in good sound system and you will be bowled over...the rythym is excellent.
I am not sure why guys are saying IR is at a all time low...i mean his penchant for providing complex interludes and guitar usage is apparent in some of MK's songs..then why the sudden polamabal?..come on guys...IR has announced before filmi music does not interest him..the problem is we expect him to give excellent music for situations that he has scored numerous times...if any innovation has to come it must be a situation where IR has never scored before...but all the directors coming to him now give him the same old situations that we have seen loads of times...even if i was a MD i would have thought of old tunes...IR needs to go non-filmi already..after all he has done everything in film music already :D
Its quite interesting to read such passionate discussion amongst IR fans about MK. The one point that I didn't see being discussed is about the "song situation" and what Cheran wanted from IR.
Over the last 10 years (post Kadhalukku Mariyaadhai), what we've seen is IR keeping his orchestration to a bare minimum - save for a Guru or a few songs here & there. So if we were to keep comparing his 80s and early 90s songs to what he is dishing out now, we would be hugely disappointed. And we would not be doing justice to comparing apples with apples. Its just not the same, and unless and until we have sources close to Raja (who does speak to the media), we'll never know why he changed his style.
But then in the same period (post-KM), one thing that fascinates me the most is his ability to create a "theme" for every movie. e.g all songs in Mumbai Express had the same theme, songs in Virumandi etc etc. And his BGM has not faultered and on deeper analysis, I feel his songs gel with the movie a lot more than in the 80s. There are no more songs created for the sake of IR (a la Mohan & mike), and IR's music blends *with* the movie.
Lets wait for MK to release and see if this was really a bad effort from IR. And you know, what I'll bet on :-)
I agree with sudhagar. I have read in this same forum 2y years ago that Mumbai Express songs were crap!Now, people are raving about it. Because of the negative review in the forum and from the so called HCIR fans, I avoided listening to MX for a year!!
But when I listened to it after a year, I was totally blown over. What an album, to rave about!
Its the same with Pithamagan. Out came the negative reviews; "dejavu feelings", "no original effort" "rehashed tunes"!!!
I am sure these HCIR fans will be ravingabout Ilangatru veesuthe, for next ten years, from now on. I sincerely agree with the hubber that IRs music nowadays gel more with the movie than as a standalone project. Also with a theme in it!. For eg "Bharathi", ""Azhaghi" etc etc.
All your cause/effect ideologies to Raja's Music may be valid. But the whole point is why isnt there anyone to extract "The" music from Raja. If not now when??? As fans we may all be satisfied with 80's and then one more far and few. So is that all his legacy is going to be about ?
I havent heard any of Raja's recent ones.
I was only happy with "Shiva". Raja pioneered things starting with "Priya" when he was captivated with using a stero sound system. But then is he not annoyed with the kind of ouput (synth sound) in most of his recent songs.
and coming to his BGM, I had a chance to watch "Nadodi thendral" last weekend. (I haad nuthing to do ..so i thought I would catch up on this one .. since I havent seen this) ... I had literally tears in my eyes.(I was struggling to control in front of my gf) . the BGM shook me apart... Here is a guy who could afford and yet !! ...
the violins..and piano pieces ... probably they should have standalones next to IR statue in the future....
And I dont hear such BGMs too anymore.. Marupadiyum...Idayam..Idayathai Thirudathey..Mouna Ragam.. Salangai Oli ...when do we hear and feel such things anymore ?? .. I just pray and hope that he is not trying to outdo the young crop of MD's with his "technical" output and just play to his strengths....
Btw did anyone see "Babel" .. I thought the BGM was damn interesting... each country shown had the BGMS played with native instruments...
sloshed - yes BABEL had interesting BGM pieces - the mexican and the moroccon parts had a spanish guitar playing discordant notes throughout
btw, an European composer Alexandre Desplat is making waves in Hollywood - he scored for "The Queen", "The Painted Veil"
yes, the music was simple but nice. The Moroccon BGM sounded like bhoopalam!Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
that part actually sounds a lot like "raja magal" from pillai nila..! (just the first few notes)
But check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c86RxMVzHTU
hmm... interesting!
right..the notes for 'raja magaL' seem to match ..from them on it seems to be different. Probably a coincidence or a very remote subconcious inspiration.Quote:
Originally Posted by ananth222
Alexandre Desplat .. I have heard about that guy ever since OScars.. didnt get to see Queen ... will reserve my verdict till then ...
The thing that amazed me in Babel is the wonderful use of silence.. a la IR style...
Also I would encourage tfm folks to watch Cinema Paradiso at any cost... it affects you at every level ..period.
IHMO.. its on of the best BGMS my life has witnessed...(must be in the top 3) ... its a classic.. i couldnt help recollecting IR and how he would have done it..
"pazhassi rAjA" launch pics...
http://sify.com/entertainment/movies...class=bluebold
All the previous movies by Hariharan-MTV combo with Bombay Ravi as the MD provided some extraordinary melodies (yes, in each of them)...ippO Raja sir is involved in a project with them...mmmm...one thing is sure, if this combo cannot extract some decent melodies from IR (not necessarily great orchestration but tuneful melodies that melt the heart), we can almost conclude that IR needs to stick to only BGM in the realm of film music and no more songs...
Even without Hariharn, the MTV / Bombay Ravi combo with Bharathan gave some extraordinary stuff
in 'vaishali'...We need to wait and see how IR is faring...it's kind of a litmus test for the current level of creativity for him...I'm sure this team won't settle for any kind of rehashes as they are known to show marked difference in each of their films...
And this wikipedia user article on Bombay Ravi does some comparisons with IR...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravi_%28music_director%29
"...it's kind of a litmus test for the current level of creativity for him..."
app_engine,
Please think twice before letting out this kind of comments. Ilaiyaraja needs a litmus test now after reaching the most unreachable peaks of film music ??, that too from some Hariharan and MTV ??
Btw.. for those people who doubt IR's present creative juices or style, just listen again to "Thanka Thinkal.." from Manasinakkare and "Swasathin Thaalam.." from Achuvinte Ammaa !
No, the old Raja is not lost ! He is still here, just that he does not do it in Tamil :(
raja_fan, didn't I say "current level"? :-) Even those films that you've quoted are now "old"...
Seriously, only in 2006/07 we see a marked higher percentage of remixes / rehashes with Raja's film music...(shiva, anumanaspadam, mayakkannadi etc....cheeni kum will be similar too and what else is in the making BTW?)
And your statement "that too from some Hariharan and MTV "...what can I say...Please do a search on their movies...let's recognize that there're talents in the world besides Raja...
And it's been observed by many DF'ers other than myself of Raja not doing justice to the "fewer" movies he's doing currently...(at least in the songs)...
A few of the justifications for mediocre songs in the recent movies by Raja are summarised below:
-no great director (or other crew) to "extract" good melodies
-no interesting subject to thrill him to come up with interesting score
-no "big" projects involving big names
Well, now we have this 'pazhassi rAjA' which satisfies all the above criteria...That's why I said it's a litmus test...pArppOm...I'm confident that IR can rise to the occasion and provide a scintillating score...
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/fr/200...1900780100.htm
one of those many that show up when I did a google on Hariharan + MT Vasudevan nair...
Apparently, the audio of Raja's new Malayalam movie Vinodayatra (Sathyan Anthikkad) is released couple of days back. It has 4 beautiful melodies.
I found the songs here
http://www.123musiq.com/Vinodayathra.htm
Guys listen to mandarapoo..its very refreshing and IR-standard melody...now that is the style of tune that we want from IR..:thumbsup:
Thenippayum has a enterprising prelude and that coming from IR..so hip...:P
Guys i would like to know if IR handles composing,arrangements,mixing and everything by himself for malayalam movies..cause the sound of violins and some instruments differs compared to tamil and telugu where the sound is more real and clear :?
Captivating songs ! on the first hear !!
IR proves my point that he is still here, but just not in Tamil !
Why is he denying "mandarapoo.." kind of bliss to tamils ? Why is he so angry with us ? :(
Mandarapoo..
Only original drums..no synth used..
Vinodayatra proves that Raaja Raaja than "The King Emperor Of Music"
vinOdha yAthra - decent & sweet work by IR:-)
kai yeththA kombaththu - my pick of the album,
though resembling a KJY song in Julie Ganapathy (I don't remember the Thamizh song)...very soft and excellent orchestration, esp. the original Raja's "melodic style bass guitar" work -watch out for this in the saraNams! Female version is more enjoyable as KJY is struggling, unfortunately (especially in the last few words of the anupallavi)...
akkiththukki - is it Vijay or his dad himself (or someone else...may be MG Sreekumar...not sure)? decent fun song! Why not someone write such lovely lyric in Thamizh that can be both racy and without inglipeese words?...namma poets'kku indha song can be given as a lesson...Raja switched to synth style guitar in this (which is not my personal preference)...still, sweet to listen...'madhuramallE jeevitham'
mandArappoo - typical IR-mallu song in the post-kAlApAni era...listenable..., though with the 'mArikkoottinnuLLil' & 'minnAram mAnaththu' dejavu feeling. Sure to become popular...(which is why IR probably chose a tested & tried format for this song IMO)...a little bit westernised though, compared to the prior hits...
thennippAyum - catchy tune with flashes of brilliance here and there...pretty youthful...some irritation, though, in the chorus sounds and kachcha-muchcha synth sounds here and there...
Raja may have done better works in Malayalam earlier but this one is much better than his recent mAyakkaNNAdi:-) Like his prior works for Sathyan Anthikkad, this is a minimum-guarantee job!
And I expect a more classy output for pazhassi rAjA now!
Good..but not great..Looks like some effort has been put into the tunes (probably to give the album a youthful feel) ..the pallavi's are interesting..but charanams shift to regular 'raagam programming' :-) Also, the freshness is not there in the orchestration..ie. the notes for the instruments ..especially in key places like the transition from pallavi to interlude etc..Everything is synth..just good synth.
Compared to mayakkannaadi, this is bliss! But when compared to his other fairly recent mallu works, it lacks the "majesty" of songs like 'oru chiri kandaal' or some songs from kochu kochu santhoshangal. Still, the melodies are good and well orchestrated. On the whole, a really refreshing album! If he wants to settle on some middle ground between his glory days and now, this is as good as any.
True ...
What difered from Maaya kannadi was the orchestration ..This is pleasing to ears !
Very nice album in my opinion !!!!
"Vinoda yathra"... lives up to its name.
IR's best album in recent times... IMO.
"Kai yeththA kombaththu" - Simply brilliant :clap:
I have no words worthy enough to describe this melodious composition.
IR never ceases to surprise me...! Just when I was about to give up hopes on IR's new releases... he comes up with a trump card in the form of 'Vinoda Yathra'.
Wish IR comes up with at least one such song in all his forth coming albums.
I dont know why you people are bashing "Mayakkanadi" this much bad. This Album is NOT bad for giving negative remarks.
Just stop reading/commenting negative remarks about the album, close your eyes listen this album in any walk-man or CD-man with good head/ear phone. I am very much sure that you wont loose your hearts.
This Album is simply brilliant especially when IR asks Cheran, Is it a basic love ? and in the introduction IR explains about the situation too for the song.... Konjam Konjam....., I am really Love with this song, Enna Song.......enneramum intha song thaan manasella odikitte irukku......
I would keep Konjam Konjam, Oru Mayalogam, Ulagiley as Brilliant, Yelea..... Outstanding, Kasu & Kadal..... Extraordinary.
100 words on Vinodayatra's music!
http://itwofs.com/milliblog/
itsmuls,
You are right !
People start expecting too much that they miss to appreciate the beauty before them :)
http://content.msn.co.in/Tamil/Enter.../0703-19-1.htm
எல்லோர மூவி கிளப் பட நிறுவனம் சார்பில் ராஜ்பா ரவிஷங்கர் தமிழ், தெலுங்கு, மலையாளம், கன்னடம் ஆகிய மொழிகளில் தயாரிக்கும் அஜந்தா படத்துக்காக 36 பாடல்கள் பதிவு செய்யப்பட்டது. ஒரே இசையமைப்பாளர் இசையமைப்பில், ஒரே படத்துக்காக இத்தனை பாடல்கள் பதிவு செய்யப்பட்டது உலகத்திலேயே இதுதான் முதன்முறை என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.
இப்படத்தின் ஆடியோ கேஸட் வெளியீட்டு விழா மார்ச் 27ம் தேதி மதுரையில் அரசு மருத்துவக் கல்லூரி மைதானத்தில் மாலை 6.00 மணியளவில் நடைபெறவிருக்கிறது.
இப்படத்தின் ஆடியோ சி.டி.யை இளையராஜா வெளியிட, பாரதிராஜா பெற்றுக் கொள்கிறார். ஆடியோ கேஸட்டை இளையராஜா வெளியிட, இயக்குநர் சேரன் பெற்றுக் கொள்கிறார்.
இந்திய சினிமா வரலாற்றிலேயே திறந்தவெளி அரங்கில், மக்கள் முன்னிலையில் திரைப்பட ஆடியோ கேஸட் வெளியீட்டு விழா நடைபெறுவது இதுதான் முதல் முறை! அதோடு, இசைஞானி இளையராஜா திறந்த வெளி அரங்கில் ஆடியோ வெளியீட்டு விழாவுக்காக இன்னிசை நிகழ்ச்சி நடத்துவதும் இதுவே முதல் முறை!
அஜந்தா படத்தின் பாடல் வெளியீட்டு விழாவைத் தொடர்ந்து, இசைஞானி இலக்கியப் பேரவை துவக்க விழாவும், தமிழ் இலக்கியத்தில் சாதனை புரிந்த சாதனையாளர்களுக்கு பதக்கமும், பரிசும் வழங்கப்படவிருக்கிறது.
பா.நமச்சிவாயம் அவர்களுக்கு தமிழறிஞர் விருதும் இரண்டு லட்சம் ரொக்கப்பரிசும், வண்ணதாசன் அவர்களுக்கு படைப்பிலக்கிய விருதும் இரண்டு லட்ச ரொக்கப் பரிசும், சேதுபதி, பழநிபாரதி இருவருக்கும் இசைஞானி இளையராஜா விருதுடன் ஐம்பதாயிரம் ரொக்கப்பரிசும் வழங்கப்படவிருக்கிறது.
இவை தவிர, இசைஞானி இலக்கிய பெருமன்ற கெரளவ விருது என்ற பெயரில், "இளைய இசைமுரசு" டி.எஸ்.ராஜா (ராஜபர்ட்), தேனிசைத் தென்றல் எம்.ரேணுகாதேவி (ஸ்த்ரீ பார்ட்), இன்னிசை வேந்தன் எம்.யு.பிரேம்குமார் (ஆர்மோனிய பின்பாட்டு), கோடை இடிமுழுக்கம் கே.எஸ். சின்ன கோபால் (மிருதங்கம் டோலக்) ஆகிய நான்கு பேருக்கு விருதும், பத்தாயிரம் ரொக்கப்பரிசும் வழங்கப்படவிருக்கிறது.
பரிசளிப்பு விழாவைத் தொடர்ந்து அஜந்தா படத்தில் இடம்பெறும் ஒன்பது பாடல்களையும், திரைப்படத்தில் பாடிய பின்னணி பாடகர், பாடகிகளைக் கொண்டு இன்னிசை நிகழ்ச்சியாக நடத்த இருக்கிறார் இளையராஜா.
அந்த மேடையில் இளையராஜா உடன் கே.ஜே.ஜேசுதாஸ், விஜய்ஜேசுதாஸ், உன்னிகிருஷ்ணன், திப்பு, மஞ்சரி, ஸ்வேதா, பவதாரணி, மதுமிதா ஆகியோர் பாடுகிறார்கள். இந்த விழாவில் கவிஞர் வாலி, எழுத்தாளர் ஜெயகாந்தன், சினேகன், கவிஞர் முத்துலிங்கம், மு.மேத்தா, பழனிபாரதி, பா.விஜய், நா.முத்துகுமார், செந்தில்குமரன், சினேகன், கவிஞர்.பொன்னடியான், சங்கிலிமுருகன், இயக்குநர் கோகுலகிருஷ்ணா ஆகியோர் சிறப்பு விருந்தினர்களாக பங்கேற்கிறார்கள்.
விழாவுக்கான ஏற்பாடுகளை தயாரிப்பாளர் ராஜ்பா ரவிஷங்கர், இயக்குநர் கதா.க.திருமாவளவன் செய்து வருகிறார்கள்.
Interesting..... KJJ will come??
Oh i want to attend the programme but mudiyaathe? :sad:
because it will be a treat to see many personalities such as Jayakanthan, KJJ, Vaali, BR, Naa. Muthu, etc
It is time for KJJ to retire gracefully as his voice has gone reached its last years !
See how he struggles to sing "Kaiyethaa" in Vinodayatra..
KJY used to be the king of lower frequencies...the bass'iest...now that's the area that suffers:-( He's still fine in higher octaves - "josh mEin" was quite impressive...He needs to be choosy now...
Now I remember the Julie Ganapathi song...'minmini...'by KJY which is a distant cousin to 'kai yeththA'...(the Thamizh song also had awesome bass guitar work)...
Can someone confirm who's the female singer of 'kai yeththa'...is it Manjari? Though she has done a decent job one can't help thinking how it would've been with KSC...in emoting phrases none can beat KSC IMHO...probably Manjari will reach there someday (and let's wish her that)...but as of now, it's not as much as KSC...when Raja can use a struggling KJY why not KSC?...
Maayakannadi - After listening many times, in car, home, ipod, alone, with friends and what not, i conclude this is the worst album by IR ever.
Vinodayatra - Bliss.
Wonder why IR does better in Malayalam/Telugu than Tamil? May be he is not getting musically knowledge directors!