Ramayana - Another Great Epic

1 doubt on Ramayana
Before Rama, we have heard that Vali defeated Ravana.

I read somewhere that there was another person who also defeated Ravana? Who is this? Anyone knows this story?

Dear Viggop,

It was Kartha-viryarjuna. Here is my old article on the incident.

http://chennaionline.com/festivalsnr...eligion560.asp

And the attempted 'bala-pariksha' with Vali is narrated in:

http://chennaionline.com/festivalsnr...eligion561.asp

Good to be back in the old ForumHub with a new look.

anbudan,
Hari Krishnan

Dear HariKrishnan Sir
Very happy to know that you are here. :-)

I have mentioned your site
www.harimozhi.com in both ramayana and mahabharatham threads.

When I read the character analysis of Ramayanam characters in English, I had tears in my eyes.They were simply excellent.

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Originally Posted by viggop

Is this Yayathi related to the Yayathi of Mahabharatha?

it cannot be because mahabharatha was a different yugam altogether. :-)

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Dear Viggop:

It is the same Yayati. One has to look at the epics as a chain of events. The story of Mahabharata starts with Yayati. I counted the number of generations from Yayati to Pandavas/Kauravas some years back. This genealogy is given in Srimad Bhagavata Mahapurana. (Book Nine.) The Pandavas/Kauravas are about 48 generations away from Yayati. My count is rough and approximate. Assuming an average of 30 years per generation, one has to realise that they are separated by more than 1500 years. :-) This is a very modest assumption, considering the longevity they enjoyed. (It may be interesting to note that Dharmaputra must have been at least about 70 years old when the war started!)

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Originally Posted by viggop

1 doubt on Ramayana
Before Rama, we have heard that Vali defeated Ravana.

I read somewhere that there was another person who also defeated Ravana? Who is this? Anyone knows this story?

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Vamana!

The story goes that Ravana in trying to win all the worlds also goes to Pathala, where king Mahabali is ruling. When Vamana became Trivikrama and vanquished the king, he also gave him a boon. He blessed Mahabali to be a Chiranjeevi, and made him ruler of the netherworlds, and also promised him that he himself (Vamana) would be the gatekeeper of Mahabali's kingdom (as a placatory offering for the injustice in sending him to the Netherworlds).

So when Ravana goes to meet Bali in war, he is defeated by the little dwarf who guards Bali's gate!!

Thanks Badri.Never heard of this story though.
Vamana is of course an Vishnu avatar, so Vishnu himself defeated Ravana just like Shiva's toe crushed Ravana's arrogance when he lifted the Kailash.

Harikrishnan Sir also mentions a battle of Ravana with Yama where Brahma saved Ravana.I have not heard this story too.

I have never heard of the stroy Badri narrates. Neither the Valmiki Ramayana, nor the Kamba Ramayana nor the Uttara Kanda of Ottakkuthar has a story to this effect. Anyway, let's hope Badri would be able to inform us of the source of the story.

Viggops, the battle between Ravana and Yama is narrated in the Uttara Kanda of Ramayana.

Harikirshnan Sir
Please tell us more abt this battle with Yama and Ravana.I have never heard of this story.

Here it is Viggops:

"Escapes death for the first time"
http://chennaionline.com/festivalsnr...eligion557.asp

There are 107 instalments on Ravana written in ChennaiOnline, from the origins of his race, his birth, how he came to be known as Ravana, and a detailed character study, commencing from

"Greatness without goodness"
http://chennaionline.com/festivalsnr...eligion545.asp

You may commence from this and keep clicking on the link 'Next' given under each article to navigate to the next article. These are yet to be uploaded to harimozhi.com.