Islamic Invasions ! Hindus Persecutions !

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Originally Posted by pizzalot

It was the turn of events after the world war that gave us freedom. Both extremists and moderates sensed how the world order is changing and changed their themes as oppurtunists.

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This is very true. If Britian hadn't gone bankrupt and had the Conservative party won the elections after the war, i doubt if we would have got 'Independence' when we got it.

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Originally Posted by pizzalot

It is not a co-incidence that "Quit India Movement" and "INA" movements occured not before 1939.

Gandhi's earlier movements were simply protests against the Government on specific issues. He did not call for Independent rule. If he had started the Quit India movement in 1930, instead of Salt Satya Graha, there would have been no takers, my friend.

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This explains that India hadn't had one leader in the last 500 years with a far sighted vision.
As far as the divide and rule policy goes, India was never one country before the British came and all the states came under one umbrella mainly because the British found it easy to rule one big geographical area rather than smaller states.
The divide and rule policy that British started was on Religious lines. Its really sad to see that the British have left us, but we haven't let go of their policies.

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Its really sad to see that the British have left us

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I'm sorry , i cannot be agree.

Britishes did more pain than gifts. :cry:

Dsath are you british ? :roll:

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

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Its really sad to see that the British have left us

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I'm sorry , i cannot be agree.

Britishes did more pain than gifts. :cry:

Dsath are you british ? :roll:

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yes what do u excatly mean by "they have left us"?

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Originally Posted by crazy

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

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Its really sad to see that the British have left us

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I'm sorry , i cannot be agree.

Britishes did more pain than gifts. :cry:

Dsath are you british ? :roll:

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yes what do u excatly mean by "they have left us"?

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Pls read the whole sentence, i am not sad that the British left us, but i am sad that the policies they formulated hadn't left us still.
For example dividing the population on religious lines, the strict dress code, worst of all their civil services system and roundabouts on roads(my pet among the lot).
Look where all the our tax money goes, to Russians, Americans and Europeans to buy rockets,tanks,fighter planes and what not. While with all that money we could have built roads,schools and fed the millions living under poverty line.

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Originally Posted by dsath

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Originally Posted by crazy

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

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Its really sad to see that the British have left us

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I'm sorry , i cannot be agree.

Britishes did more pain than gifts. :cry:

Dsath are you british ? :roll:

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yes what do u excatly mean by "they have left us"?

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Pls read the whole sentence, i am not sad that the British left us, but i am sad that the policies they formulated hadn't left us still.
For example dividing the population on religious lines, the strict dress code, worst of all their civil services system and roundabouts on roads(my pet among the lot).
Look where all the our tax money goes, to Russians, Americans and Europeans to buy rockets,tanks,fighter planes and what not. While with all that money we could have built roads,schools and fed the millions living under poverty line.

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yes we could have build a lots of things with those money, but we r also in need of those weapons and missiles! it keeps ur country together, keeps our enemies out of ur border..........ofcourse i agree that we could have put those money and taxes and some better way, but it wasnt the fault of politicans only.............people have also their contribution here!
we people have been stupid and we didnt work hard enough to build or country...........
again this can we blame with high illiteracy in our country...........but can also blame the literated people who runs to foreign country in hope of better :roll: life than rather staying here in our country and help building it up!
why r we so stupid? how long r we going to blame the politicians, how long r we going to be naive, how long r we going to sit and blame?

what do u think we could do to make ur country rich and powerful?

ok ok
i should stick to the topic!
sorry.

pizzalot, some of your views are interesting, esp your reliance on DNA as opposed to some wild theories.
Sure there are many cultural differences between different parts of India. That might explain a few things.
I have a query for you. What do you think Ashoka was before he became a Buddhist. What religion do u think he followed?
And one other thing, i find the term Rig Vedic people used often in your posts. I cannot understand what is your interpretation of Rig Vedic people.

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

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Its really sad to see that the British have left us

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I'm sorry , i cannot be agree.

Britishes did more pain than gifts. :cry:

Dsath are you british ? :roll:

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Different people will give different answers Eelavar. Ask a Kashmiri and he will say the British were far better. In one of your posts about Sri Lanka, you did seem to regret that the British had left leaving the Island to some fanatics. You do not need to be British to love British. Our constitution itself is based on British and so there is nothing wrong even if someone admired the British.

Why do you keep asking people if they were British, Hindu, Muslim etc ? What is your motive ? Why do you care ? I believe we should be able express our views and there is no need for anyone to express their identity. I welcome someone's ideas even if he/she were British or Americans. Who someone is should not really matter here. So come out of smaller circles first.

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Originally Posted by dsath

pizzalot, some of your views are interesting, esp your reliance on DNA as opposed to some wild theories.
Sure there are many cultural differences between different parts of India. That might explain a few things.
I have a query for you. What do you think Ashoka was before he became a Buddhist. What religion do u think he followed?
And one other thing, i find the term Rig Vedic people used often in your posts. I cannot understand what is your interpretation of Rig Vedic people.

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I am sorry Dsath, if I sounded narrow minded. I did not mean any race here. I just meant "nature loving people, who are not intellectuals." In today's scenario they would be people who live in smallest villages and tribal in life-style as opposed to the "elite" people of later Vedas and Upanishads.

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Originally Posted by dsath

pizzalot, some of your views are interesting, esp your reliance on DNA as opposed to some wild theories.
Sure there are many cultural differences between different parts of India. That might explain a few things.
I have a query for you. What do you think Ashoka was before he became a Buddhist. What religion do u think he followed?
And one other thing, i find the term Rig Vedic people used often in your posts. I cannot understand what is your interpretation of Rig Vedic people.

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For sure he was not a worhiper of Ram or Krishna, I can guarantee you that. Upanishads were not written, yet, and so Krishna had not yet recited the Upanishads in the Gita yet.

There was only one thing common between the Hindus of today and his people before converting into Buddhism. It was Varna system. He was born to Brahmin lady called Dharma. Other than that nothingelse.

If you say that he was a Hindu before adopting Budhism, that means you agree that "Hinduism" is nothing but "Varna" system.