Printable View
Oh, we don't even need google for this, Sureshji has the blog in his signature :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
http://sureshs65music.blogspot.com/2...sed-me-by.html
Param,
With the kind of output & thrill that SPB-IR have provided us over the years, the job is so simple to get a 1000+ posts in this forum. I don't merit any credits, seriously :-)
This westerner's review of some IR songs got posted in the titbits thread.
Interesting to see some of the songs that we've discussed about during the last few weeks :-) Surprising to see even 'nAn thAngoppandA' being mentioned :lol:
Quote:
Long before Rahman emerged upon the scene, music director Ilaiyaraaja ruled the Tamil roost. To date, he has scored over 950 films not only for the Tamil market but also for Kannada, Malayalam and Telugu cinemas. Some of his most rollicking work between 1977 and 1983 is included on “Solla Solla.”
On this collection, rock and hi-hat/conga-heavy funk rhythms augmented with horns and early synth flourishes take a more prominent role than the ostentatious string arrangements of Bollywood. But at the same time, the masterful nuances displayed in the performances of singers like S. Janaki and the legendary S.P. Balasubrahmanyum suggests a robust connection to southern Indian classical vocal music. What might seem like a typical 1970s dancefloor-bomber subtly reveals itself as treatise in traditional vocal raag – as is the case with Balasubrahmanyam’s extraordinary timbral control over the modal funk of the title track and the frenzied “Vaa! Naailukku Naall."
From the first listen, it’s evident at least among these tunes that Ilayaraaja was far more liberal in his assimilation of western instrumentation, kitchen-sink arrangements and structures than many of his Hindi film contemporaries. “Raja Rani Jaakki” starts with a proggy bit that might not sound too out of place in a Van Der Graaf Generator leftover, before a vaguely Motown bassline/flute figure takes over, giving way to a much more traditional tabla interlude. Despite its title, “Disco Sound,” crooned mostly in English, evokes Blood Sweat and Tears (albeit with a scandalously breathy female vocal intro and weird - but equally lascivious - spoken interlude). Zippy, fuzzed-out slide guitar and synth drum fills drive the bouncy “Naanthaan Ungappanda,” which finds Balasubrahmanyam dipping into a throaty Satchmo register.
The shimmering synth intro of “Thithikkum” preludes a stomper driven by slashing wah-wah guitar and fuzzed-out organ swells. Sample English lyric (for which the Maestro gets an ‘A’ for effort): “Baby, shake it baby...I need you/I want to hold you tight/when you are in my arms I feel high...” “One and Two Chachacha” switches gears abruptly from, in fact, a sitar-seasoned midtempo cha-cha to a south-Indian bhajan-inflected interlude. “Kanavu Ondru” offers up a more introspective melody sung by S. Janaki over cyclical rhythms, space-age synths, piano, tabla and strings. The album closer, “Aadal Paadalil” pulls out any remaining stops, with a left-field take on big-band swing punctuated by thunderous percussion and rhythmic, basso profundo vocals.
True , but still you are doing a splendid Job :notworthy:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
#70 இளங்கிளியே இன்னும் விளங்கலியே
(சங்கர்லால், 1981 , ஜானகியுடன்)
A song that can instantly lift up the mood!
Right from the prelude, it has mirth written all-over and one cannot help but get delighted! Raja must have been in a really happy state of mind when composing this and SPB-SJ share the same disposition, along with the orchestra :-) Unintentional humor -by way of SJ's English- too is present (as in the case of another KH-SD / SPB-SJ number, the 'paRanthAlum vida mAttEn').
Sankarlal is one of those rare cases where IR shared music credits with another person for a movie. (Gangai Amaran). I think it was something like "each one scoring for a portion of the movie" - unlike the 'mellaththiRandhadhu kadhavu' model where IR & MSV sat together for composition. Not that IR-GA didn't sit together those days for songs as GA penned lyrics for a lot of them, played instruments in the orchestra etc. Just technically speaking - it wasn't a case of joint composition but rather "splitting" of respo. (The reason why it was so is not known to me, some KH-fanatics may know the reason).
The director was T N Balu, who earlier did uyarndhavarkaL & sattam en kaiyil with Kamal (iRaivan iraNdu bommaigaL seythAn & sorgam madhuvilE immediately come to mind). IIRC, he died before the movie was complete and someone else released it. (googled to verify my memory and wikipedia says Kamal himself completed it. It claims shankarlal was KH's first directorial attempt :wink: KH-anudhabees may frown at it because the movie was termed dumb and a disaster as well).
SPB, in top form, as usual!
App anna
In the above song, I think there were few lines where SPB sings "Hello my beauty, dont be so naughty, I am your sweety" some thing like that Hilarious :rotfl:
Superb post App! :clap: Beautiful song. Lot of insights and information. You are a film encyclopedia!
நன்றி v_s!
'கலைக்களஞ்சியம்' எல்லாம் ஒன்னும் இல்லீங்க..நம்ம அறிவு ரொம்பக்குறைவு, 'ராஜாவின் அரண்மனை'க்குள்ள மட்டும் தான் நம்ம விவரம். அதுவும் எழுபதுகளின் பிற்பாதி மற்றும் எண்பதுகளின் முற்பாதி.
மற்றபடி சுத்தம். இங்க ஹப்'ல வந்து கேட்டறிந்தவை மட்டுமே :-)
Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Hi
Definitely this is the most famous number in the movie, Sweet & energetic singing by SPB as always! Long before i saw the movie, I thought Ram-Laxman is Kamal in dual roles, didnt know it was the elephant (Laxman).Duh! cant recall what was the entire story was about, I am never a fan for movies such as these, with elephants,dogs, monkeys & stuff. But nevertheless its an enjoyable song though,
KH & Sripriya make one of the best pair in the 80's, KH & Sridevi too make a lovely pair. Sri priya & devi complimented KH vr well as pairs. I read some where that Sri priya & Sri devi has done 27 movies each with KH !
App, thanks for the vellaikkaran writeup link. "Balasubrahmanyam dipping into a throaty Satchmo register". For the benefit of those who don't know. Satchmo = Louis Armstrong. Yes he of "What a wonderful world" fame.
Enna solla vareenga puriyala :confused2:Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
The article talked about SPB doing a satchmo. Satchmo is Louis Armstrong's pet name. Louis Armstrong was a terrific trumpet player (jazz), but he occasionally sings. And he has that gravelly voice that SPB sometimes does. Check him out in youtube. Especially that song, "What a wonderful world", which most people know.
Oh OK, yes I have heard the song " What a wonderfull world" ! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
App, thanks again for all the tidbits. About Shankarlal and its sharing of music credit, has this been recorded in any of the LP or tape covers/magazines/websites?
I'm a huge fan of Paadhikannil Mayakkam - one bloody riot of a song, kickass instumentation and awesome singing by SJ and KH (love all those little bits... jana-kicku, sabaas da thambi ganesa).
Unfortunately, my exposure to iLangiLiyE was only thru radio & buses :-) Never seen the disk so cannot explicitly tell which were done by GA. IOKS definitely announced that iLangiLiyE was by IR (and the song's orch / feel confirms that to me as well). I really don't know about other songs. IIRC, 'kasthoori mAn' was credited to GA by radio stations.Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
The superb blending of a carnatic ragam (chala naatai?) for a peppy tune and unexpected veena bits makes me want to believe that this one's by annan. But we really cant say, Amar, in spite of being 'influenced' many a times, could have thrown this surprise.
#71 அந்தி மழை பொழிகிறது, ஒவ்வொரு துளியிலும் உன் முகம் தெரிகிறது
(ராஜ பார்வை, 1981 , ஜானகி & டி வி கோபாலகிருஷ்ணன் உடன் )
Vairamuthu explained the lines in the pallavi as "இந்திரன் வீரிய மிக்கவன். முந்திரியும் வீரிய மிக்கது. அப்போ இந்திரன் தோட்டத்து முந்திரிக்கு எவ்வளவு வீரியம் இருக்கும்? " :-) With that kind of background came this stunner in Kamal's 100th movie. As later ridiculed by some of my collegemates, what VM intended for the boy to sing as ' ragasiya rAththiri pushtham' was given to Janaki and vice-versa by one of the culprits - IR / KH / Singeetham and ended up as a comedy. However, during the +2 days of its arrival, we lapped the lines up and were so thrilled with the song.
That apart, what a song! The mridhangam - whenever IR chose to use it in a song (obviously he did very selectively), the effect was stunning! Add TVG's voice AlAp backed up by tablA and judicious use of drums - terrific concoction. As the movie was about a violinist, free-flowing violin sounds were a given. SPB & SJ singing with passion / emotion a sweet melody made this song evergreen!
I remember Sujatha writing about 'one nice evening with Kamal' when he was privately show-cased that panthuvaraLi instrumental special from the movie. If someone can find that Kumudam article somewhere in the world, please, please, post it here or give a link. It's worth gold / platinum / diamond! I had that piece recorded in a number of cassettes and it was a regular walk-man listen for years! (Don't have it at present, high time I search the web around for that. That violinist / chitraveeNa combo on jaya TV is an appreciable effort but with the original strongly etched in my mind, couldn't appreciate to the point of clapping. It's possible GA had a feeling like mine...chinnappasanga, nallA irukkattum).
Like I mentioned before, rAjapArvai is among a few rare cases of me liking a movie that flopped. (I fancy myself to be a front-bench TN-er in movie appreciation). Recently visited portions of it on the web and was full of pullarips / tears! KH :thumbsup:
App anna
What does வீரியம் mean ?
By the way
The aaaaaaa bit in "Anthi mazhai" song was done by SPB or IR ??
T V Gopalakrishnan - Indian classical music teacher for IR :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
potent (word with double meaning, please google it)Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
I know the meaning of the English word, no need for google , Thanks any way :)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Oh BTW , I have sent a PM to you, when u have the time pls go through , it thanks :)
Thank you! , he sounded so much like IR, hence my doubt :)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
ஆச்சு, ஒரு மாதிரி சுத்தி வளைச்சு வெள்ளிக்கிழமைக்கு "மற்ற" பாட்டுப்போட்டாச்சு :wink:
App - Thanks for accommodating my request and posting this song on Friday. This is one of the rare tamil song that's more about "Kaamam" less about "Kaathal", but not vulgar. The other one I can recall is "Raaththiriyil Pooththirukkum" from Thanga Magan.
There was some discussion on the lyrics about 1 year back..... you can read them here: http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...l=1#post483222
App - Wikipedia says VM has 5 National awards, latest one in 2011 (Most for any lyricist in India). The only one he got working with IR was the exact reason why they got separated. I would just like to leave it there.
app,
The prelude and the mini chorus before the prelude is enough to provide immortality to this song. Everything else is a bonus. Stunner, no doubt.
Super pick App for Fri :smile:
Beautiful visuals for Andhi Malai song. With Suresh on the prelude, it's so arresting and you can't be distracted till the whole song ends.
App,
Thanks for the wonderful write up on Raaja Paarvai - One of the best musicals ever created on celluloid ..
Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
What an immortal song !!!!!
After listening to it for umpteen times,the love for the song is strongly rooted and its growing each time listening to this master piece,
What a feeling it gives, beyond the best words I could find, ahahaha,,,the starting chorus...and the aalaap...the preludes...my my....
Feels like a late evening rain showering on me,,, violins,piano,miruthangam,chorus...its a like an honey well.
பாட்டில் இழையோடி இருக்கும் அந்த உணர்ச்சி பெருக்கு, காதலுக்கும் ,,அதையும் தாண்டி ஒரு சராசரி ஆணும் பெண்ணும் பிறக்கும் அந்த இயற்கையான ஈர்ப்பையும் ரொம்ப அழகா தங்களோட குரல்ல வெளிப்படுத்தி இருக்காங்க the GREATS SPB & SJ !!!!
SPB அவர்களின் குரல்ல கொஞ்சும் அந்த விரகதாபம்,,அதை வெளிப்படுத்தும் அழகான பாடல் வரிகள்! சற்று மெலோ டிராமடிக் ஆனா வரிகளாக இருந்தாலும், அந்த மாதிரி சூழ்நிலையில் உள்ள ஒரு ஆண் & பெண்ணோட உணர்வுகளை இவ்வளவு அழகா அத கொச்சைப்படுத்தாமல் சொன்னது கவிதை ! கண்ணீரையே வர வைக்க கூடிய சக்தி உள்ள பாட்டு. நானும் இந்த அந்தி மழையில் கொஞ்சம் மூழ்கி திளைக்கிறேன். I dearly love the lyrics too...
அந்தி மழை பொழிகிறது
ஒவ்வொரு துளியிலும் உன் முகம் தெரிகிறது
இந்திரன் தோட்டத்து முந்திரியே
மன்மத நாட்டுக்கு மந்திரியே
தேனில் வண்டு மூழ்கும்போது
பாவம் என்று வந்தாள் மாது
நெஞ்சுக்குள் தீயை வைத்து மோகம் என்பாய்
தண்ணீரில் மூழ்கி கொண்டே தாகம் என்பாய்
தனிமையிலே றுமையிலே
எத்தனை நாளடி இள மயிலே
கெட்டன இரவுகள் சுட்டன கனவுகள்
இமைகளும் சுமையடி இளமையிலே
(அந்தி மழை பொழிகிறது)
தேகம் யாவும் தீயின் தாகம்
தாகம் தீர நீ தான் மேகம்
கண்ணுக்குள் முள்ளை வைத்து யார் தைத்தது?
தண்ணீரில் நிற்கும்போதே வேர்கின்றது
நெஞ்சு பொறு, கொஞ்சம் இரு
தாவணி விசிரிகள் வீசுகிறேன்
மன்மத அம்புகள் தைத்த இடங்களில்
சந்தனமாய் எனை பூசுகிறேன்
சிப்பியில் தப்பிய நித்திலமே
ரகசிய ராத்திரி புத்தகமே
(அந்தி மழை பொழிகிறது)
What is the instrument that's playing between 03.21-03.30 of the song ?
Thank You App!
p/s: sorry for the long post, Good Day.
Divine22,
Please post long, we appreciate your detailed views :-)
The instrument that goes along with the conventional strings seems to be an electronic toy (perhaps the new keyboard /synth that IR got at that point of time) :-)
#72 பேசு, என் அன்பே! உன் அன்பை என்னென்பேன் !
(விடியும் வரை காத்திரு, 1981 , சசிரேகா & ஷைலஜாவுடன்)
It's quite an interesting song with two female singers for two women shown on screen & SPB for K Backiaraj. Sasireka sings for the girl on phone while SPS croons for the mentally ill wife (and that's why all those 'yEi, ooi, bayanthuttiyA' kind of sounds). A not-so-succesful thriller movie made by Backiaraj (probably to prove that he was the mastermind behind Sigappu RojAkkaL). In any case, the first IR-SPB song for Backiaraj which had decent air time and was among the "collector's items" for those who went to recording shops with he burma bazar TDK cassettes. Occasionally also heard on buses. Not a big hit neither a totally neglected / forgotten one. Has youtube & otherwise presence today on the web.
I remember watching this movie in one of those parithAba theaters on Trichy-Tanjore road between Senthanneerpuram tolgate and Thuvakkudi. so-so movie with KB as the hero / villain and Black belt as police. The most talked about scene of jumping out of the train to kill wife was quite interesting & decent but otherwise nothing much to write about the movie.
Then & now I prefer 'neengAtha eNNam onRu nenjOdu uNdu' (MV-SJ) to this song :-)
With the V V kAthiru song, the 1981 collection ends - a total of 17 mixed numbers (some phenomenal, some great, some just ok).
I'll get the shortcuts organized shortly and post in all three threads (this one, the SPB thread on current section of TFM & the last song heard thread in the TF section)
ok, the shortcuts are together here in a single post :
All 70's & year 1980 here
Those of 1981:
#56 Ayriam thAmarai mottukkaLE
#57 oru kungumachchengamalam
#58 sollachcholla enna perumai
#59 vanthathu nallathu nalla idam
#60 kalyAN rAman
#61 oru poovanaththula
#62 hEy, hEy, orAyiram
#63 Radha, Radha nee engE
#64 theerAtha viLaiyAttuppiLLai
#65 poonthaLirAda
#66 vAlibamE vA vA
#67 vizhiyil un vizhiyil
#68 nadakkattum rAjA namma rAjjiyam
#69 nAn thAngoppandA
#70 iLangiLiyE innum viLangaliyE
#71 andhi mazhai pozhikiRadhu
#72 pEsu en anbE un anbai ennenbEn
While 1981 was spent partly at home (+2) and partly at hostel (college life started on 9-9-81), 1982-85 was totally independent / carefree period (except ofcourse ejjAms). Once into the college, my sabbatical for movie-watching got discontinued with 'anbE vA' at the college audi and that opened the floodgates of movie watching.
And 1982, what a year for SPB-IR combo!
Starting this year, it's quite floodgates for this combo!
#73 தீம் திரனன..திரன தீம் தனனா
(ஆகாய கங்கை, 1982 , ஜானகியுடன் )
'thEnaruviyil nanaindhidum' - sounds like someone pouring honey into one's ears! With a great bharatha-nAtyam-music start, the song is a great treat to anyone who loves such semi-classical numbers in TFM. This was part of my Thanjavur-based collegemate's collection. He was an IR-fanatic and used to record all songs in every new disk that gets released (including the stray instrumental pieces that IR allowed to be the fillers in some vinyls). This guy now took my cousin's position in being the "window" to me to the world of TFM:-) (Same guy who got archanai from us for taking us to movies like eera vizhikkAviyangaL and the AVM Rajan + his daughter movie etc using the IR tag).
AgAya gangai was the first directorial venture of one of BR's assistants, the lean Manobala who still stays in the film field as an actor (nice role as Asin's boss in ghajini). I haven't seen him on TV interviews but read in IR titbits every now and then as someone who shares some rare IR-thingies on such shows. nallA irukkattum :-) Unfortunately for him, AG didn't make any impression despite having the young sensation Murali (original name of s/o Muthuraman, one wonders why BR changed it to Karthik? Was there any IR influence as producer of AO? avarukkum ippadiyellAm pEr vaippathil thrill irundhadhu thAnE?).
By now, in my world, SPB-SJ have become the defacto standard for duets and nothing else was accepatble. This movie (or album) came toward the end of 1982 - much after payaNangal mudivathillai etc I think). Also, with multiple avenues to listen to music (even Trichy vividh bhArathi was a new option, apart from walkman / cassette players of various hostel mates & other traditional channels like buses), life was getting a lot more musical than academic :-)
That avm rajan sri@mahalakshmi movie is devi sridevi. Dasarathanini thirumaganai is a decent song, too.
App Sir
Excellent pattu; this song is an wonderful number; SJ sings so well in this song...
Plum
I think app is referring to the "Rani Theni' movie which had some nice songs like "enna solli Naan ezhudha, en mannavanin manam Kulira''.. a great PS number..
Devi/Sridevi came much later, I think directed by GA.. (Telugu original was a hit .. Retta Jadda Seeathalu or something like that .. I think...)
balaji,
Plum is right, it was the movie with 'Dasarathanin...' and the girl got back her name as Mahalakshmi.
rANiththEni was with the name "Shree" and, yes, 'enna solli nAn ezhudha' is one of the sweetest numbers from IR-PS combo!
App, interesting write-ups and snippets.
A side note on the legendary Andhimazhai - the Telugu version that I've got with me has an additional chorus (all-ladies, ordinary singing as usual) that precedes the 'wa-wa-wa'+mrudangam prelude. (lyrics goes something like sa ri ga ma pa dha ni saptaswaralu neeku...). I haven't heard this one in any of the Thamizh versions that I have. And I haven't seen the movie either. It could probably be a part of the BGM before the start of the song in the movie.
Sidenote 2 - Azhagae azhagu, the divine, ghazal-like beauty crooned oh-so-awesomely by KJY, in its gulty version has SPB doing the vocals. Doesn't work anywhere as well as the Thamizh/Dasettan's version for me. SPB diehards who haven't heard this one yet, might want to try. (Amavasya chandrudu)
About TVG, I've already posted this question here but didn't get an answer last time around, here's it again - What are the songs that TVG has sung for IR?
The one's that I'm aware of are Andhimazhai, Ada macham ulla, Margazhi maadham and Idhu oru nila kaalam. Any more?
KV, that's part of the BGM probably. The tamil counterpart goes something like
"pani vizhum iravinil iru vizhi nanaindhadhu nERRu
something something something something kARRu"
I think Madhavi visits the blind school and it is their prayer or something. That leads up to the song sequence.