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Thank you Sureshji for the excellent write-up on pani vizhum malar vanam :-)
One of those songs which had aesthetic poetry as well, by Vairamuthu ("சேலை மூடும் இளஞ்சோலை, மாலை சூடும் மலர் மாலை").
Sridhar is a master when getting stuff from the music department!
Jai,
I think genesis was referring to the 'Manmohini' piece that Vijay Prakash sang in 'Yuvraaj'. From your description, looks like you are referring to 'Manmohina' from 'Jodha Akbar'?
app_eng: What you say about Sridhar is perfect. He was a director who seems to be looking for something 'new' in music always. Even when Vishwanathan Ramamurthy were scoring for him, the music in his movies sounded 'different' from the other 'hits' of those times, say the songs of Bhim Singh movies. Given that Sridhar had the penchant for something different and Raja was raring to go in those days, it is not surprising that magic happened!! AM Raja, V-R, MSV and then Raja. Sridhar got great melodies from all of them.
correction - he didnt get inspired to do inji iduppazhagi. Kamal insisted that he do a song on the same lines ...Quote:
Originally Posted by raagas
adhu maadhiri not adhe maadhiri said kamal
my bad - I have been listening to manmohana piece quite a lot these days..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
daras bina nahin... saawariya... amazing desh... ends in tilang monty sharma
albela saajan......Ismail darbar in raaga aahir bhairavi
கண்ணா நீ ....பாம்பே ஜெயஸ்ரீ & ஸ்ரீநிவாஸ் -G.V.P-ராகம் மதுகௌன்ஸ்.
Vinatha,
Can you tell me the movie name for these 3 songs?
Jai,
Suresh is right. I was referring to "Manmohini" from Yuvvraj, not "Manmohana" from Jodha Akbar.
Genesis,Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
daras bina...Film - saawariya
albela sajan...Film - hum dil de chuke sanam
கண்ணா நீ ...Film - இரும்புகோட்டை முரட்டுசிங்கம்
enjoy.. :)
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raagas,
Scintillating S.D.Burman. :musicsmile:
thanks.. will check out both IR & S.D.B back to back as soon as I can.
ran around insane with zillion orchestral rich songs of Ilayaraaja whole weekend & with one song... S.D.Burman subdued me yesterday evening!
emotion of muted orchestration with the power of language arts in ragam piloo! :musicsmile:
jinhe naaz hai hind par vo kahaan hai
kahaan hai, kahaan hai, kahaan hai ..... :( :cry:
The war against human lust & power which subject humanity to shame
GURU DUTT classic...PYAASA!:clap:
anyway... this is IR thread,
I am still in a subdued mood...
துள்ளித் திரிந்ததொரு காலம்
பள்ளிப் பயின்றதொரு காலம்......என்றும் அன்புடன் .
ஹார்மோனியம் , ப்ளூட் , ஸ்ரீ.பாலா's humming, அழகான லிரிக்ஸ், melodious tune for me :)
Suresh may continue with
bells, kolusu, guitar, folkish violin,tabla rhythm, ilayaraaja's signature echo flute
சாமக்கோழி ஏ கூவுதம்மா ....பொண்ணு ஊருக்கு புதுசு
http://www.raaga.com/player4/?id=154...76199093915126
I used to wait under the palace arch not crossing the road from the palace ground to go home or enter school gate for the tea shop near our house to play this song during school days... :musicsmile:
VINATHA. :)
Good observation Suresh. Bharathiraja, Mani Ratnam, Subhash Ghai, K.Vishwanath, Kadhir also fall in the same category as Sridhar. Whomever be the MD, songs from their movies generally stand apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
The only difference is: Kadhir's movies are torture to watch. :)
Sridhar went up north and got awesome melodies from Shankar Jaikishan, Laxmikant Pyarelal as well. His musical sense is unparalleled.Quote:
Originally Posted by genesis
Getting back to Raaja's philosophy of unifying fusion of distinct genres, I was listening to 'kodiyile malliyapoo' from Kadalora kavidhaigal. This was late 80s and by now the thamizh film music lovers had gotten used to Raaja's 'experiments' and Raja pulls up this rabbit from his feather ridden crown.
There is 'folksy' feel that is evident from the following sources in the song:
1. vocals - Jayachandran and Janaki sing it with a light slang that underlines the rural feel
2. Percussion in Charanam - a tabla which otherwise would have been used throughout comes only in the charanam (no one would have thought of this before Raaja in a thamizh film music for a village based subject) and very restrained
3. Flute in the interludes. Actually this is the master driver of the 'Bucolic' feel in this song. While there are grand violin ensemble pieces pouring out notes after notes of chaste WCM, the solo flute counterpoints provide the 'Folk' answers to those questions.
With such minimalistic handling, Raaja can take a texture of a song and 'transport' it to the heartland of coastal rural village south of Madurai. This minimalism also is a hall mark of 'Modernism' and 'Post modernism'.
Now as we have been discussing in the recent past pages, Raaja the 'master mood creator' never compromises on the 'feeling' or the emotional aspect for anything else. Also the need to 'say the story' through sounds is also an overarching prerogative.
So the pallavi that extends a wee bit into an anu pallavi (experts help needed here - I might be way off course) and both are punctuated by hesitant phrases - something that hints at lack of completion and the situation indeed is that of a relationship on the knife edge and hesitation between the lead pair being what is the driver of the song.
The staccato styled
'Kodiyile Malliyappoo
manakkudhe maane'
and the anupallavi which underlines the tempest within that is the reason for the hesitation
'PaRikkachcholli thoondudhE'
does not have such hesitation - and it sounds more complete and slightly elaborate with the last syllable stretches being the longest in the entire pallavi . The point of special note would be the prelude music to the whole song that repeats itself in various forms in the interlude as well - resembles more of a 'beat pattern' than a free flowing musical score. All deliberate and all to underline what happens in the story and what the characters think and feel.
At one point in the charanam interlude I felt like why does this lude have to end? what more can words describe that this music has shown to me? And in the charanam words too Ilaiyaraaja and his guitar provide apt support to subtle lyrics of Vairamuththu.
It takes extreme guts or an Ilaiyaraaja to score this gem and it takes an equally fearless Bharathiraaja to even film this song so beautifully.
jaiganes,
about me - romba intelectuala irukara post ku ellam
reply seiya - konjam bayam...
Ennoda bhadhilal - Great article - ordinary view point ku
kootindu poi vidumo endru...
unga postil naan unarndhadhu - niriaya vishaym therindhu
kolla vendum.........
Anyway, Great post for a Folk song......
Thank you Jaiganes....