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As always, perfect plugging of knowledge gaps... you're truly an intellectual plumber'nga!
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Originally Posted by Plum
As always, perfect plugging of knowledge gaps... you're truly an intellectual plumber'nga!
App anna - Great Going :clap:
BTW, when was "Payanangal mudivathilai released" ?? 1982 ??
Yes, I'm thinking of not bothering about "movie-name-alphabetical-order" for this year as it would be easier to narrate history in the order of events in life :wink: That way, moonRAm piRai & PM can be written about prior to kAdhal Oviyam :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Eagerly waiting for MP, PM, and KO :)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
1982 - bumper year pOlirukku. Looking for personal anecdores app - college life vERa. RasamAna stories irukkumnu nambaREn :)
yeah ..share it with your friends.
அவரு பாட்டு கேட்டு நம்ப என்ன எல்லாம் செஞ்சோம், our ஹார்மோன்ஸ் on the loose..
app _eng , கரெக்ட்/vulnerable age வேற...
Jolly time, confused time, awful time, touching moments , generous time, more more with Shri.Ilayaraaja sangeetham.
vinatha.
Come on APP anna !
Start off with "Ilaiya Nila" :redjump: :bluejump:
About TVG, I've already posted this question here but didn't get an answer last time around, here's it again - What are the songs that TVG has sung for IR?
The one's that I'm aware of are Andhimazhai, Ada macham ulla, Margazhi maadham and Idhu oru nila kaalam. Any more?
This query's gonna return a SQL100 eh?
KV,
So that you don't feel that your query has gone unreplied: I don't know of any other song!!!
Thanks anyway, Sureshji.
Question to KV & Sureshji,
There are two voices in the "and we had a talk" piece in HTNI.
Could one of them be TVG? (and the other IR?)
oNNu TVG, innoNNu?
andha innONNu dhAnga TVG ;-)
I'm behind by a day (long-day-time-drive) and will come up with 2 songs today to catch up. And the first number will obviously be related to Trichy :-)
#74 காவிரியே, காவிரியே
(அர்ச்சனைப்பூக்கள், 1982 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Can't place a date on this movie, so decided to go with the alphabetical thingy. As mentioned above, the first line is directly related to the city close to kallaNai, mukkombu, koLLidam & kAviri :-) The city where I spent 4+ extremely interesting years. 4 things made life so thrilling - obviously one being Raja's music (and anyone who listened to his output during 1982-1985 -those were fresh juice then, now aged wine - can testify to this fact), second the totally new set of friends in college hostel / Trichy and the life-perpectives that they influenced me to build up, third the countless books / periodicals / material that was opened out for me to read (Sujatha being one of them, at his peak) and fourth -countless other new people (including some whom one would have "met" :wink: only once in a bus journey).
Well, this song, is like one of those countless new people. Was there on the recordings of my Thanjavur hostelmate. And heard many times on radio. And on other occasions on buses.
Sweet melody, strongly influenced by the stronger rAgA leanings that IR started doing in 80's. Sweet melodic interludes, using his most favoured instruments. (The santoor sound reminds one of trees on riverbanks). And the tablA, which I'll love even if IR uses unchanged in another 1000 songs!
Before I write about the song / movie that is so dearly loved, some history. The intention is not to write autobio but could give some flavour to the later descriptions of songs / impact of music on a person as to "how-a-pattikkAttAn-turned-engg-student-viewed-IR-music-during-college-days".
Though I mentioned 9-9-81 the start date at REC, after a couple of days of being locked in the Agate hostel (per order by seniors, most part of 1st sem was spent in khAki-khAki dress outside hostel), we were given time-off to go home because seniors were celebrating "Festember 1981". Happy to let go, away from the terrorizing ragging atmosphere, I took off. Home sweet home.
The whole 1st sem was an experience of terror - being taken as "captive" to senior hostels to wash their clothes, clean-up their rooms, provide them entertainment and sometimes even savagely getting beaten up - all these built a lot of empathy in me for any who gets persecuted in life. Well, during all that time, once back in Agate after a fearful experience - the endless discussions about music with roommates / wingmates were like balm to the heart!
Our 1st sem was an extended one i.e. till May of 1982, to ensure there's one year gap between us & our immediate seniors, who were the first 4 year batch. (They were the first +2 group who were forced to finish course in Dec, to give the last 5-year batch at least 6 months to find jobs. Later, we had only 6 months gap between us and our immediate juniors...so the engg was 4.5 years for two batches before it became true 4 year course).
So, the next couple of movies I'll include here happened within the '1st sem' of Agate + "A" mess life in khAki dress (forced to clean shave etc) though these got released in year 1982 :-)
Nice way to begin the yr 1982 and also App's College life :) ..
#75 வானெங்கும் தங்க விண்மீன்கள் விழி இமை மூட
சூரியன் வந்து கடல் குளித்தெழும் நேரம்
வானில் ஒரு தீபாவளி, நாம் பாடலாம் கீதாஞ்சலி
(மூன்றாம் பிறை, 1982 ஃபெப்ரவரி வெளியீடு , ஜானகியுடன்)
AhA, what a movie! And, what a song! Sophistication levels that only Mahendran & BM movies / songs reached in TF! Right from the prelude which is similar to BM's camera work and his 'pace-at-my-will' narration. SJ's humming slowly building up a sun-rise theme that culminates in a glorious trumpet sound to start the vaira varigaL! Second to none in depicting nature, the kavingar had a field day!
A classic drums / trumpet / phenomenal bass guitar first interlude! SPB's tha-tha-thoo-thoo youthful second interlude. Very casual singing by both the veterans to thrill youngsters! Well, the whole song is a marvellous package! (add to these the BM special of oLi Oviyam having Sridevi on screen).
This was probably the first movie I saw in Trichy, with a newly acquired friend (son of dad's friend / distant relative...) who had a beautiful akkA :-) (Honestly, my first "crush" though she was 5 yrs older...very loving person who got married within a couple of months after I met the family, to a foreign mAppiLLai). The stressful 1st sem at hostel made me run to all people known to my dad in Trichy and I was on bus every Saturday and returned only Monday mornings (Dad worked there for a few years before I was born and quit the job to serve in a hamlet school).
The movie - a moderate commerical success but won critical acclaim - ran for only a few weeks in kalai arangam (a huge state owned theater near Trichy bus stand, changed its name to Thiyagarajar manRam later on, I don't know the current name) before it got moved to 'rukmaNi' theater in uRaiyoor (written as Woriur in English). Even after that theater changed its name, people called it 'padmA maNi' which was its original name it seems. I don't think it exists anymore.
That's where I saw the movie and melted, crying like a child in the end.
Revisited that movie many times in suburb theaters, watched both shows when screened in college audi etc.
One of the top movies of KH, SD, BM & IR! Though the better songs were bagged by KJY (kaNNE kalaimAnE & poongARRu), I'm glad SPB-SJ were part of this classic!
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Originally Posted by app_engine
This is one song where the bass seems to carry the song through all the scales.
Sounds so simple, but the intricacies are so tightly packed and concealed like the inji (ginger) and cocnut pieces
inside a kaarthigai pori urundai. Though not a classical counterpoint, the repartees by first flute, then followed by strings section
to the charanam first phrase by singers is a delight - It is a delight because it creates a swift stroke of a country side breeze in one's mental
canvas. In the country side, unpolluted and solitary, nature is always in conversation, birds chirping to a breeze, responded by fluttering leaves of a
tree. Here a young couple's song resonates with the elements of nature in such a conversation. Awesome pick App - From now thou shalt be invoked
as "Awesome App Engine" or AWE!!
Getting back to the rakshasan SPB, that chuckle and sigh in the second charanam is something no ordinary singer can produce - it is possible
only from a person who is a singer, actor and a story teller. There are a million meanings in that sigh and chuckle. Only a man in love can decipher
half of those meanings - for the rest of the unfortunate unloved creatures (Read critics) it will appear unfiltered through their monochromatic prism
as a simple "konashtai" anyone can do.. Therein lies the power of SPB - to elevate a song from mere chain of notes into a story of a character!!
Whatta song? drums in this song is worth dying for. From the slow pluckings of a guitar to SJ humming casually, a true beachside romance this song is...Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Talk about imagery and Ilaiyaraaja, here the song is a pure image studio. Every line loaded with evocative imagery.
Raaja reused the elements of this song later with even more stupendous success in Oh Premi song from pallavi anupallavi.
In many ways it is a pioneering effort from Raaja and SPB!! every passage is so surprising that no matter how many times you have listened this song before, it catches u unaware, gaping.
It is like a short term memory loss patient with insatiable affinity to sweets taken through a melodic maze of unlimited sweets. ... Again the story teller SPB rises to the occassion and stamps his
uber cool all over the song.. one of my favourity Balu mahendra songs ever...
App & Jai :thumbsup:.
The MP song, many here would not know about it. Not helped by the fact that the cassettes then (usually two in ones) did not even have this song. I realised it when revisiting the film in later years. Beautiful piece.
App, the vocals in HTNI, though I'm not exactly sure, I always thought was by IR and Surendar (the singing isn't too clean; Surudhi often gets a beating in it)
Awesome posts, AWE & Jai! While one chooses to drench us in nostalgia, the other brings showers of poetry on us! I’m thoroughly enjoying this rain!
As Jai rightly said, the bass guitar in Kaviriye is special stuff. I’m a mad fan of this song’s prelude… the conversation between the bass and santoor is spellbinding!
Moonrampirai is my Numero Uno favorite of all IR albums. Emotional opulence, technical sophistication and popular appeal, packaged into a blend of perfection!
The source for this madness/devotion/obsession over the album is a ‘soundtrack’ tape that my father had as part of his collection. (a solid collection of various genres, composers and artists).
I chanced upon this tape around the time I was passing out of school and moving to pre-university. PU classes used to be from 0730-1130 and I would be back home by 1200 or 1300. With both, mum and dad working, it used to be only grandmom and I at home, till evening. I would, almost daily, very religiously, carry the old, compact, Sanyo single-speaker taperecorder and some of my favorite tapes and lock myself in a room. After that, for hours it would just be music and me, undisturbed; relaxation and tranquility of the highest order. I can, even now, vividly recall several dialogs from the film and the music pieces accompanying them. Momentary silence and then a gradual passage of violins to musically paint the scenic landscape of Ooty, the loopy, naughty, enticing pieces of bass guitar portraying Silikku’s longing and melancholy… every scene is a slice of poetry, visually and musically.
Even after I got my computer and mp3 collection, I had very safely kept the tape with me for many years and would often go off on a ‘trip’ listening to it. Alas, the tape recorder threw up some trouble some months back and my tapes now lie in a corner, dust gathering over them and my memories.
Great descriptions jaiganes and nice recollect KV!
All of us have nice memories with audio equipments :-) During my 1st sem, not many students have any kind of audio equipment (max some battery transistor radios). So, music within hostel was limited to radio broadcasts & vocals / instrumentals by roommates / wingmates / hostelmates.
(Small explanation of the term "wing" - all the 9 hostels in REC Trichy had a bird-like structure. The entrance +common room (newspapers, later TVs) + TT table room + cycle parking space + staircase were like the "body" of the bird and the rooms of students were like the "wings" - all hostels had east & west wings. We had room mates during 1st to 3rd sem and single room from 4th sem onwards. So, there was more of wingmate menace than roomie menace)
Since RECs (now called NITs) have 50% local state students and 50% from other states, there were at least 125 boys in our batch from states other than TN, who were introduced to TFM :-)
One among them was an excellent singer from Bihar who loved 'kaNNE kalaimAnE'. I still remember his playing of chords on a spanish guitar while singing the moondRam piRai song!
Starting today, for seven days, we'll have the songs from another movie that got released in Feb 1982 like MP.
And this was a movie that had only two singers on the title card (SPB & SJ) :-)
I'm 100% sure it's not S N Surendar (maternal uncle of actor Vijay, who had dubbed for Mohan in a number of movies and had also sung a few songs.)Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
The voices in HTNI are heavier - sounding mid age men, IR highly possible to be one of them. SNS always sounded like a boy :wink:
Did SPB sing a song in Moondram Pirai ? :confused2: The Only song I can remember is the wonderfull "kanNe Kalai MaanE" by KJY!
sorry guys, I am back now. So hectic. Missed hub so much.
Lot of interesting song and posts by App, jai and KV. :thumbsup: Need to catch up.
Pesu En Anbe from Vidiyum Varai Kaathiru wow! Listening this song after long long time may be after my school days. Remember my friend who was grace about this film and watched it 5 times and used to force us to watch the film. Still I have not watched it.
Thenaruviyil - another gem of a song. App, Didn't know Murali was named as Karthik by BR, from where in the world you are getting such vital information.
Vanengum as grouch said, it was a later discovery for me too. No one can do such wonder. As jai explained, this song can take you and adapt to your imaginations.
Thanks App and KV for sharing your memorable college days through these songs. Ilaiyaraaja at his peak and college days can't come to everyone. Very happy and lucky to be part of that group. Those first year engineering college ragging days, it was way too much, still with Raja and exam preparations, all went so fast. My first year and Punnagai Mannan, can't get better! Still remember how I escaped to come out of campus and watched this film and how I escaped again into my room without getting caught by seniors!
Excellent write-ups by App, Jai and KV!
#76 இளைய நிலா பொழிகிறதே
இதயம் வரை நனைகிறதே
(பயணங்கள் முடிவதில்லை, 1982 , வைரமுத்து பாடல், ஆர்.சுந்தர்ராஜன் இயக்கம் )
Last Dec when a Detroit AA couple had to undergo my "TFM torture" for a ~2hr drive to Cleveland (and back as well), this number was part of the repeat plays and my superlative praises. Well, they loved the song too and asked me to give them a copy:-) In course of our talks, I mentioned that if they want me to pick a song as my "all-time-top-fav-TFM-song", it will be this!
I've posted a lot on various threads about the song itself. I don't think it's necessary to repeat the praises for the lines, SPB, great guitar interludes / postlude etc. Sufficient to say this is a superlative, landmark song in TFM!
There's something called "symbiosis" in biology (e.g. relationship between butterfly & the plant it helps pollinate) and a similar thing existed between IR & his directors. Starting with PM, he shared such a nice relationship with R Sundarrajan. Obviously, IR's genius in his domain cannot be compared to what the directors did in their own but purely from the resultant benefit part, it was a symbiosis.
To acknowledge IR's genius, however, the producer of PM (Kovai Thambi) did a nice thing. He started advertising on the poster as 'iLaiyarAjavin innisai mazhaiyil' on top! This was the first movie to have such posters and I don't think they carried his pic like the later ones.
While moonRam piRai strugged to complete its "iNaintha 50-vathu nAL", PM was effortlessly completing its 100+ on "gaiety" theater in singArathOppu, Trichy where I've watched the movie a few times. I don't think that non-A/C theater exists anymore.
This song was attempted by every troupe in light music competitiions & entertainment nights in the college thereafter. And, every guitarist worth his salt wanted to play this on stage:-)
Listen to the wonderful 'vAnil oru theepAvaLi' from the thiraippadal link in my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
There should be youtubes available as well, Sridevi in jeans / sun glasses walking on a beach:-)
Thanks , I cant seem to find any Videos on you tube :(Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
#76 இளைய நிலா பொழிகிறதே
இதயம் வரை நனைகிறதே
(பயணங்கள் முடிவதில்லை, 1982 , வைரமுத்து பாடல், ஆர்.சுந்தர்ராஜன் இயக்கம் )
Amazing song, SPB does a smooth "ride" without any effort, The guitar work is brilliant! This was the song I wanted to sing in 1997 Ganakuyil (in London) , as this song was "very" popular!, in the end I had to sing "vaa Vennila" , but cant complain, as that song fetched me the first prize :)
I still remember the inexplicable wave that caught me when i heard Poonthaliraada in "hits of 80s" collection in a casette tape player in my uncle's house. I was probably 9 years old. The devastation was total. The memory is so vivid, that Raja impregnated my memory so deeply. It is impossible to take him out of my conscience now. So deep has been his impact, that rest of the music I have heard since those days are just sediments on top of that memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by KV
Moonraam Pirai and PayanangaL Mudivathillai in the same year? (I am sure there are many) Whoa! Great posts app. Thank you so much.
Random, uninteresting, irrelevant tidbit: Gaiety, Rukmani (friend of mine owns it) and Kalai Arangam are still there in Trichy. The first two play re-re-release films.
Here it is - the opening song from moonRAm piRai :Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy2eKsH1oPo
yw :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Interesting to know that those oldies are still alive:-)
BTW, 82 was a watershed year musically, add ninaivellAm nithyA, kAdhal Oviyum among many others...
I am not surprised that Raghu doesn't know about the song/sequence. Could be outside of India the song never made it at all at that time. In fact, the scene was not on TV when I first watched it as a kid.
adhE! adhE! I got to know this song only recently so I have no idea how it is picturised though the lyrics give a clue. The predominant image with the initial santoor pieces is one of a river flowing freely into a falls - and with the birds chirping etc, the imagery invoked is quiet as app mentioned - riverbank, trees, monkeys jumping across, birds chirping. It does vividly create the imagery, doesnt it?Quote:
(The santoor sound reminds one of trees on riverbanks).
Wow Amazing Song! Thanks App anna :)Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
No No, I remember the song! , I watched the movie about 15 years ago, when VHS was around! :lol: it is just that it was not played on TV/ Radio much like "Kanne kalai maanE" !Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070