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I just copied and pasted TAcinema's post from "the MGR thread" !
I think it is worth having this post here!
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tacinema wrote!
The problem with you is that your argument is purely one-sided. You listed your favourite actors for the last 50 years, and I imagine you are a very neutral person. What you need to do is think quitely and logically and come to a conclusion that MGR is no match for Sivaji in any cinema department, EXCEPT action movies. BTW, as Joe pointed out, Sivaji too did some action movies, such as Raja and Engal Thanga Raja. Both were commercially super hits. But MGR films such as Kannan Yen Kathalan, Paasam, Nallavan Vallvan, Kalangarai Vilakkam and Ther Thiruvila, which are somewhat "different", failed miserably. Personally, I think Kannan Yen Kathalan and Kalangarai Vilakkam are good movies and they have great songs. Somewhere, you spoke about versatility and saying Kamal was more versatile.. let me give you your own poison and show you how versatile Sivaji was:
1. Parasakthi - run away hit, unbelievable dialogue delivery. Mind it, this is his first movie. His success was unparalleled, not a single tamil actor succeded in first movie itself in such a magnitude. With his powerful action, experienced actor such as SSR were totally sidelined in the movie
2. Andha Naal (acting) - It must be Sivaji's 5th or 6th movie. No songs in the movie, excellent and stylish acting as a spy. Can you imagine any MGR movie without songs... it would be a disaster
3. Thooku Thooki (comedy) - an awesome acting as also a comedian. Legend TMS first sang for Sivaji.
4. Sabash Meena (comedy) - with Chandrababu. Go and watch his timing in comedy. Less say about MGR's comedy sense, the better. Kamal is good in comedy, but I think he cannot match Sivaji's timing.
5. Veera Pandiya Kattabomman (history) - An epic. No words to describe his acting, he just goes deep into skin of the character. Even reruns, this movie made awesome collection, in Madurai (my hometown), it ran over 50 days in 80s.
6. Vasantha Maligai (love/romance) - Another milestone movie. I strongly believe no other movie matched this in love story. This remake is better than Telugu original
7. Deiva Magan (acting) - Excellent action. He made his face looks ugly for one of the characters. Kamal extended that in AS
8. Navarathri - Appearance of 9 different characters. You can distinguish one Sivaji from another easily
9. Thiruvilaiyadal (mythological) - List does not end, all AP Nagarajan movies. Literally he thought puranas to many.
10. Raja (action) - Excellent movie. His stylish dialogue delivery comes in very handy when act as bond-style
11. Paasamalar - Include all "pa" series movies
12. Gauravam (lawyer) - another mile stone movie. This movie is a bench mark movie for any one who acts as a lawyer.
13. Thangapathakkam (police) - another great movie. Movie for a honest police officer
14. Pattakada Pattanama (village) - another blockbuster. Incidentally, the highest collection movie in black and white category (including MGR b/w movies)
15. Sorgam - a dream character, I just love this movie.
16. M.Mariyadhai - An aged thespian showed you that he is worth of every penny, if used properly.
Last but not least - Uththama Puthiran: what a movie. go and watch Sivaji's villain character..........you will be amazed!
MANY MORE..................
Take this versatility and compare with Kamal or any other actor. You will fall flat on the ground. Mind it, Sivaji is second indian (after Nehu) in Independence India who was awarded one day mayor in Columbus city, Ohio, USA. This is the honour that every Tamilian should feel proud of.
I like Kamal, I like MGR too. I just think Sivaji is genius in his own way. Do not compare Kamal's Salangai Oli with any Sivaji movie. Kamal is a learnt and experienced Bharat Natyam dancer. So doing a movie on BNatyam should be a cake walk for him. If Sivaji had known BNatyam, I am sure he would have beaten any actor. But doing a movie like Thillana Mohanambal (without knowing Nadaswaram) is simply uncomparable. If anyone makes an yard stick for comparison, it is mostly sivaji movies. For example, if someone talks about brother-sister love, then Paasamalar immediatly comes to their mind. That is the impression. I agree post-Thirisoolam, Sivaji did bad movies; but don't bash sivaji, just for the argument sake.
You said you can talk about politics enlessely, but I am not sure that this is the correct forum for that. Here, to brief you, I would like to compare MGR as a politican with another politician Kamaraj, not again with Sivaji.
I have to go now and have a good time in arguing.....
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Amazing write up!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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what a big post :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Super Star Rajini said "People call me as style king..If I am style king ,Nadigar Thilagam is Style Chakaravarthi"
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tacinema has given 16 charecters and said shivaji is versatile than kamal!
is it difficult to give a completely different 16 charecters for kamal too! :huh:
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:evil:
Shivaji's ERA WAS different.
TECHNICAL improvement during those eras WERE NIL.
Shivaji's scope and chances offered were MUCH LESS in those days.
Considering those, definitely HE HAS RISEN MUCH ABOVE THAN ANY POSSIBLE INDIAN ACTOR :evil:
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u must not forget that kamal used the technical or any development in cinema using his pocket money in most of his movies!
kamal has taken his step for technical development........by using his money..which shivaji dint!
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U must not forget, THE ERA HE LIVED and audience which he catered to were different.
They would NOT HAVE relished it.
also, KAMAL IS MORE EDUCATED than SHIVAJI.
note: More Educated does not mean more talented.
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KAMAL IS MORE EDUCATED THAN SHIVAJI
:lol: :lol:
Kamal havent even finished tenth standard! :lol:
i think he is second standard drop out :lol:
do u think people relish it now
even after hey raam flops kamal comes up with anbe sivam!
even after kuridhipunal he came up with hey raam!
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Naan sonnathu nadanthudichu
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I know.. kamal is a school drop out. I understand shivaji is even less educated.
GOD what all we argue over!!!!!!!! How LESS QUALIFIED A PERSON ISSSS !!! :lol: :rotfl:
thirumaran,
enna sonnenga? enna nadanthathu?
