World Cricket II

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Originally Posted by Mike Denness

England/Oz have appealed aggressively even worse than what Sehwag and co. did. But that is natural for them and unnatural for Indians hence I suspended Sehwag.

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Spot 2 differences between this and feeyar's "natural order".

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Originally Posted by Rajaji

kulakkalvi thittam is quite sensible. Kothanaar magan kothanaarA varradhu natural dhAnE? Adhu dhaanE marabu. Apdi dhaane nadakkudhu kaalam kaalamaa? Idhu enna pudhusA setuppu thekkaRavan magan serupu theikka thEvai illainulAm solRadhu? Bleddy naansens.

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.Ulagauthala ella countrykaaranukkum defined behaviour irukku adhai thaandi avan varavE koodaadhu. "Natural"A behave paNNanum - Prabhu Ram, 2012 copyright

Let's assume Spain doesn't have any Indians as of date. Let's assume a indian doctor applies a job in Spain.
Here's a visa interview by Visa Officer Prab Ramos:

Doctor aspirant damodaran: I'd like to go to spain and take up a career opportuintiy in medicine

Visa Officer Prab Ramos: edhuukkudA? Spainla vEra endha thuRailayum Indian illaiyE? Idhukku mattum edhukku? Spainla neRaiya Indians coffee shopla work paNdradhuku, appuRam mAttu vaNdi OttaRadhukku adhukkellAm vandhappuRam nee DoctorA vandhA pOdhum.

Doctor aspirant damodaran: :confused2:

:rotfl:

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Prab Ramos

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Next day civil engineer chitra appears for a Visa interview for a job in Spain.
visa officer prab ramos: chitra poNNu, spainla edhunA indian Cricket Adi pArthurukkiyA? Spainla paravalA indians cricket aadattum. Appo nee engineerA pOnA, adhu naturalA irukkum. Dhideernu nee engineerA pOREngaradhu artificialA illai? Idhu epdi irukku? Muhahahahaha

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Originally Posted by THE PRAB RAMOS PARADOX

pala thuRaila indians oru nAttukku pOnA dhAn, andha nAttukku Indians cricket veLayAda mudiyum. or for that matter, oru thuRaila oru Indian innoru nAttukku pORadhukku, maththa ellA thuRaiyilum Indians angE already irukkaNum. But AnAl paranthu kinthu pakshe lekin kAni, oru thuRaila modhalla oru Indian pOnA dhAn, oNNu oNNA pala thuRaila Indians angE pOga mudiyin. ippO enna seyya? What to do? eviti chEsEdhi? kya kare? ki korbo?

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indrilirnhdu indha paradox Prab Ramos Paradox endru anbodu azhaikka padum

Just now got hold of this video. A staggering Assault :shock:


Kevin Pietersen 91(65)* - Australia v England at Bristol 2005 Natwest Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gWvS3wWvhA

Pietersen absolutely massacres Australia. Kills both Gillespie and Kasprowicz. Only Mcgrath is spared. Shane Watson is brutalized and he behaves just like a wanker. P'sen Gives him a mouthful too :lol:. And his ODI Record is staggering at that time at an abg of 100+ with 3 100's. Ivan ellam Eng velayadalainna innum muppadhu varushathukku ingilaandhu dhathi aa than irundhirupaanga. And people tell me SA Imports haven't helped them much. I can Never EVER imagine an Englishman playing this kind of a knock against a top quality side like Aus in their prime.

Earlier in my posts here I had given a bad example citing fielding. SA imports have definitely bolstered Eng batting.

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

For every Thorpe and Stewart I can name a Ramprakash and Jack russell. Point-ae purinjukka maatinguringa illa othukka maatinguringa. For most of the time England have been below par.

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As a long suffering fan, you think I am not painfully aware of this? John Crawley mEla ellAm ticket eduththirukkEn.

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Talent pool wise, Inga fundamental difference. I don't think I have to argue anymore. We have to agree to disagree. I stand by what i say.

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Ditto.

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

You seem to live in a well. Do you ever travel to outside forums, read cricinfo/youtube comments section and other popular places. I have seen even English supporters commenting that the side they field over the last 2-3 years doesn't look English to em. Why do you think Border calls your team British empire team?. Puriyama pesuringa.

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Yes I live in a well. I don't travel to other forums. I don't read comments columns, magazine articles about cricket politics etc. I don't care what other England fans think (and thus have no sense of their antics, which I understand you and LM).

I am merely giving you my opinion based on what I think is 'natural' immigration, extension of a tradition, even of - as you rightly point out - is happening in a more focussed, conscious manner than earlier - versus the counterpart example you and Plum gave, of India fielding phoren players.

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Yov Plum/Wizzy forget it man. He is just taking us for a ride. He has successfully clubbed sports recruiting with Immigration. Let's all accept that the Indigenous Eng team is the best team since Invincibles 1948, WI (70-90) and Aus (99-2007). Evvalavu than reason oda eduthu sonnalum adhu loppidi illai-ngrar. Waste of time.

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I never called it indigenous - I said I don't care.
I never called it better than the invincibles - that again is your insinuation.

I see any refusal to condemn phoren recruitment is being conflated with blind English support -to the extent of calling this team an ATG.
I don't think I have even called this the best English team ever, have I?

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Originally Posted by Plum

Cricket teamngaradhu need not be representative of the underlying numbers in the society - Canadakku Balaji Rao pOi veLAyAdalaiyA? He admitted that he doesnt have any skill other than Cricket to go to Canada. But Canadala Indian irukkaRAdhu adhisayam illai so that would be acceptable to ivar.

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Exactement.

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Originally Posted by Plum

Englandnu vandha udanE reason invent paNNA mAdhiri ivaru EdhO samALikkaRAr.

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England-kum adhE reason dhaanEyyA solREn :think2:

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Originally Posted by Plum

You talk as if tomorrow if India recruits foreginers, if England sattam pOttu adhai thaduthA, avanga nyAya dharmaththai kAppAthinadhA arththam. What nonsense is that? That is just holding up[I] your ordero f things.

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nyAya dharmam - again and again - your sorry attempt to thrust word in my mouthsu.
I am saying that such a rule, were it to come, will prevent England also from using players from everywhere. No more H1Bs. Thus putting an end to a tradition by a simple bull-headed insistence on equating the Indian and English circumstances.

Gymnastics-nnuveengaLE.

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Originally Posted by Plum

ulagathulEyE ivanung dhAn cricket Ada peRandhAnungaLA? ivanga tradition dhAn traditonA? ivangaLukku pazhakkam Anadhu dhAn Cricketukku nalladhA? ennayyA udhAr udaRInga?

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Britis tradition ozhiyaNum 'ndreenga.
puriyudhu. Dontorry...nichchayam orunaaL nadakkum.
naanellAm kaila oru kaRuppu ribbon kuththittu vaayai moodittu OramA pOyi ukkAndhukkuvEn. 'adhellAm oru kaalam hmmm' nu pErappiLLaingaLukku kadhai solluvEn.

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Originally Posted by Feddy

Aana Ninga nadathunga. ICC-ae ninga dhan.

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Originally Posted by Flau

India is wasting the history-given dominance of ICC.

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paal-la yEdhAvadhu kutram kuRai irundhaa...ivar maNi. mERkoNdu paal vENumnA, naan ramaNi.

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Originally Posted by Plum

Bangladesh beat Pakistan in World Cup and qualified for test status.

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They've been playing international matches for ages before that. Routinely played in the Asia Cup since the late 80s. Surely you know that better than me.
It wasn't as if they played '99 WC and voila the case was made.

Ireland - nallA varuveenga thambri, of course.
But enna paNNittAinga?

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Originally Posted by Plum

Ireland have done much more than that.

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Like?

Kenya was consistently the best associate nation. IIRC they won two ICC trophies back to back, right? Played continuously from the '96 WC. Had top-class batsmen like Tikolo. Thrilled the world by making it to the '03 SFs. Even they didn't get the test cut. adhuvum England sadhiyA??

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Originally Posted by Plum

indha kELviyE defence mechanism (Ireland are ready or not).

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ungaLukku edhu dhaan sadhi illai. ellAththukkum oru interpretation. Naan simple face-value terms-la pEsikittu irukkEn.

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Originally Posted by Plum

2 bouncer per over rule vandhadhE because they couldnt face up to Holding and co. When Lillee and co were breaking bones, they didnt think of that rule. idhellAm varalARu.

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Oh ok. Point taken.

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Originally Posted by Plum

oNNumE theriyAdha mAdhiri nInga nadikkaRadhukellAm nAnga badhil solla mudiyAdhu.

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namburadhum nambAdhadhum unga ishtam.

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Originally Posted by Plum

Plus, endh vishayathai sonnAlum "adhellAm miga sAdhArNamappA"-nu saaljappu solla vENdiyadhu..

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indha maadhiri uruppadiyAna points sonnA, naan yEn appadi sollappOREn.

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Originally Posted by Plum

First of all, define good and bad in general - because you are post-facto defining good as anything England does.

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Not true.
Whatever helps maintain the game the way I saw it when I started watching it is good - early 90s.
Whatever changes it radically is bad. Whatever makes good contests possible is good. Whatever makes it lopsided is bad.
How's that for 'goody goody'?

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Originally Posted by Plum

indha gymnastics of waiting for England to do something, and then defining it as good for the game is dakalti.

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:sigh2: Like what I say? Everything I am saying, I am saying in the broadest possible manner.

Like when Swann says nasty things and gets away with it, that is outright unfair.
When Atherton - captain of the bloody side- tampers with the ball - that is wrong.
Similarly when Broad doesn't get pulled up for the offences, which'd've got others in soup.

When England have a team composed of players from everywhere - that's not wrong
If India, in the future, attempts to do something of that sort - it'd be ridiculously wrong.
And in response were a rule to be imposed preventing every country from getting players from everywhere - that'd be unfortunare but that'd be the right thing to do, to prevent a farce.

Plain and simple. Case by case.
Play each ball on its merits 'mbAingaLE - or perhaps is that also a tradition that should be done away with.