Ya.. I also want to know the effect of MARS in 12th house from the ASC as well as from the MOONQuote:
Originally Posted by tfmlover
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Ya.. I also want to know the effect of MARS in 12th house from the ASC as well as from the MOONQuote:
Originally Posted by tfmlover
tfmlover/Selvakumar,
Guru in 8th will never give long life unless it is weak and other indications of Lagna lord being strong are there.
Mars in 12th gives a stormy relationship with wife. Men with 12th Mars are generally Hyper sexual. Mama will have a troubled married life.
Elder brother of such men with Mars in 12th have short temper and they speak harshly. Father's brothers (uncles) are quarrelsome.
Generally these attributes are seen from Lagna. In absence of proper birth time/ weak lagna , see these attributes from Moon.
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Why Hindus BLESS Males & Females DIFFERENTLY?
Beautiful analysis. Thanks Mr Nichiro...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nichiro
My request to all my friends... Let us not jump here and there... without completing any one point taken up.
Now the points under consideration... CONTINUING and Incomplete are...
...TWO... One by HOUSE ..another by PLANET.
(1) The effect of EIGHTH BHAVA (House) .
(2) The effect of GURU in different Bhavas.
Let us complete these.... then take any other next point... as you all may choose.
Continuing on the EIGHTH HOUSE...
This Bhava is also concerned with ACCIDENTS, and MANGALYA-BHAVA for Women.... as also LUCK.
Why in India... the Elders Bless the Youngsters DIFFERENTLY?.. saying ...
... DHEERGA- AYUSHMAN BHAVA... (Wish You Long Life) in case of Males...and
....DHEERGA SUMANGALI BHAVA...(Wish you Long Married Life) in case of Women.!!
The intention is to NULLIFY THE (Probable) BAD EFFECTS...of the Eighth Bhava...
... so to mean...Free of HURDLES...DIFFICULTIES... ACCIDENTS... WIDOW- HOOD
..indirectly WISHING both.. THE BEST OF LUCK and PROSPERITY.!!!
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Respected Sudhaama ji,
Guru in any bhava destroys the bhava (to a grater/lesser extent as per its shadbala strength)
It is Guru's aspect which is beneficial and not occupancy.
So as a thumb rule, I usually check the bhavas aspected by Guru .
Exactly opposite is Sani Bhagwan.
Sani increases the Bhava he occupies and destroys the bhava he aspects with 3rd, 7th and 10th Dristi.
Your point about Deergha Sumangali Bhava ashirwadam is wonderful. By blessing a lady people increase her Mangalya sukham and give longer life to husband (a sort of pariharam?)
Nichiro
Yes. Yes... You are Radically correct on the Opposite qualities of Guru..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nichiro
By ASPECTS...Guru enhances the values of the House ... while the Sani weakens.
By OCCUPANY...Guru weakens... while Sani Enhances.
I remember to have read a Varaha-mihira Sloka on such a Thumb-rule.
But such a Thumb-rule works opposite by END-RESULT...
...while the respective Houses are the Neecha(Debilitate) ones for the concerned planet.
So to mean..if the Placement of Guru is at its Neecha-House Makara from Lagna (Mithuna) .. or...
... if the Sani is placed at Kumbha / Kanya / Rishaba... when one of them is the 8th house... aspecting its Neecha-House Mesha...
(1) Faces series of Hurdles, Difficulties, Sufferings including the worst poverty, losses but ultimately miraculously gets retrieved towards Success....
...and / or...
(2) Escapes several serious accidents and finally succumbs to a minor accident.
...and / or..
(3) Lives long-life... with sufferings and disappointments... but ultimately leads Glorious days during his last part of life.
One more important factor... in case of both Good and Bad due to such an effect....
Guru renders the Good first followed by the Bad effects...
Sani renders the Bad first and then the Good... as due.
But such predictions are pertaining to such a SINGLE FACTOR of 8th House.
Depending upon other factors of the horoscope, influenced by other planets...
...the degree and intensity may vary as also be reduced or nullified.
...But in case of any Lucky person, we can note the BENEFICIAL EIGHTH House.
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Thanks for the information..Quote:
Originally Posted by tfmlover
Thanks to Sudhamma sir for making the discussions sharp and sweet and to the point !
BTW, I think 8th House GURU should be analysed from different angle .. I mean based on LAGNA as well. I think we can discuss on that from here onwards.
Let's take ARIES ASC ... For a person with that, GURU is lord for 9th and 12th houses..
If he is in 8th house, doesn't that mean weird.. coz He will lose the BAAGYA he will genearlly get from the 9th house. IMO, Luck and other things come mainly from 9TH HOUSE.. Right ??
So, 8TH HOUSE GURU cannot be attributed to luck ! I mean stocks etc :roll:
hi selvakumar 8th house jupiter easy come ! unearned
9th house mainly indicates earning ! higher learning .
those with intellectual curiosity,independent attitudes and quickness of mind ( not depending on others )
travel over long distances travel , searching meaning for life thru philosophy, religion . good sense of humour . travelling to foreign land jobs .
Thanks for the info.. My doubt is : for some ASC, GURU brings lot of sufferings.. e.g., ASC - TAURUS.., GEMINI, and most importantly LIBRA..Quote:
Originally Posted by tfmlover
IN that case, if JUPITER IS IN 8TH HOUSE, I THINK HE WON'T BRING ANYTHING just like that :confused: Right??
So, I think it depends on both ASC and the KARAKATHUVA.. (like how SUDHAMMA put)
and HOW MUCH "MAANGALYA POWER" will be affected if GURU is in 8th house? (Generally)