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:thumbsup: every Indian should second this thought !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
are we lacking human values :roll: in a nation like ours - who have a big part of the world's population !!! We should be an illustration to the world for human values as we really have many to bother about ... but is that turning against us ? are we lacking human values simply becoz we have too many ppl to worry about ?????
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are u asking this question again ???? :roll: or is it a deja-vu for me :lol: i believe PP maam answered to this question some days back ... am not sure if i can find that post .....Quote:
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
:thumbsup: I am always for upholding values!Quote:
Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
Athaiyum byheart panni nalla mark vaangiduvaanga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
I think ,Home has more responsibility than school in this aspect ..Parents should give importance and set an example for children ,instead of making their children as marks making mechine.
In this week's issue of Kumudam in the Arasu bathil column the following question-answer caught my attention:
Q:Which is the most dangerous place to live in the world, eelam? Afghanistan? Iraq?
A:American past president Bill Clinton once referred to Kashmir as the most dangerous living place. How does Philadelpia, an American state, smaller in size than Kashmir, fare? In the year 2007 alone 392 people were killed there in violence. All those who were killed were common people, specifically blacks. But the number of common people killed in attacks in Kashmir in the same year is 170. Kashmir has five times the population of Philadelpia. But America's Philadelpia is rife with murder, the cause being easy availability of weapons & race discrimination. Is your question answered?
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Originally Posted by joe
:clap: @ pp amma's last post
petrorukku human values theriyuma? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
avangalukku yaar solli koduppa?
veedu palli irandilum pillaingalukku nalladha solli kodukka vendum (human values) :)
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Originally Posted by joe
Nalla kelvi!!!... Hmmm... petrorukku values theriyaadhuna appo teachers-ku values therinju irukka chance kammi... Ippo enna pannuradhu?... :confused2:Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy
Hmmm... many cases in India don't come to light... so indha stats ellam chumma patthirikaila ezhudha venumna nalla irukkum... :x 2 pakkamum problems irukku... adhai solve pannura vazhiyay paarkamal mosathila edhu mosamngra discussion ellam waste!!!...Quote:
Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
akka
pallikoodathila paadama eduthu nadathum podhu ...human values theriyaathavangalaya aasiriyara poduvaanga? :roll:
I don't deny schools also have responsibility to teach human values.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy
But making it as a compulsary subject won't make any difference ..Students will try to get maximum marks in papers ,not sure how far they will apply in life.
Petrorukku human values theriyallinna ,school-la evvaLavu thaan solli koduthaalum waste thaan.
Petrorukku yaar solli koduppa-nnu kekkureenga ..It is not a academic qualification and something to get certified ..Parents should want to see their children not only as a qualified academically ,but also a good human being with social concious.
The necessity to teach and to have human values is definitely important (everyone has a respo in getting this education - parents, schools, society, govt.). This is easier said than done in a time period where we're living in critical times and all values are on the downfall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
However, will having human values alone solve such incidents? A big NO! I have often seen a crowd of people with lot of "human values" (often villagers) gathering together on the CBE-Palakkad highway whenever an accident takes place, showing a lot of sympathy-empathy etc, causing big traffic hold-ups, women & children crying etc and finally the accident victim dying. (the truck driver who hit often stops the truck and runs away, fearing his own life).
Obviously more is needed, primarily a robust "emergency support system" with trained personnel and extensive network. This is not as difficult to create IMO (at least easier to create than embedding human values in all :) ) provided those in authority have the will. How much % of budget goes into such systems?
For those with no parents?Quote:
I think ,Home has more responsibility than school in this aspect ..Parents should give importance and set an example for children ,instead of making their children as marks making mechine.
No definite answer exists as to who bear the responsibility to give moral lessons. I was neither given nor taught, but learned it by myself.
if we had (more) parents who wanted their children to be good human beings with social conscious ...we wouldn't have had so many inhuman acts in our countries :(
nammakkenna petrorogal(naama) kettkiradhe niruthinaale ...paatthi human values katthukitta maari thaan :P
apropos making it as a cumpulsary studies, they must encourage students to do good by taking students to do social works etc.
Crazy, naan ippo paarkira pala aasiriyargal kadamaikaaga padam mattume nadathubavargal... matthapadi values katthu kudukira interest kuda avargalidam illai!!!...Human values therinjavanga marks vaangalaingaradhukkaga manavargalai mattam thatti pesuvadhu, keli seivadhu, alavukku meeri adippadhu pondra kariyangal seiyya koodathu... aanal adhu thaan niraya palligalil nadakiradhu...Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy
Well said!!!... I have had a similar experience where ppl were trying to get some vehicle to take the victim to the hosp... they were trying to stop the passing vehicles & when we offered ours, they started giving us great advices like "ponnunga ellam irukaanga.avanga bayanthiduvaanga", "police prechnai aagidum","courtku alaya vendi varum" etc etc... :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
I think even to "delink" the good samaritan from the legal consequences wasn't there till a few years back. Many used to fear the possibility of police-court business and avoid helping victims. I think it's no longer the case (someone please correct me if this is a legal issue even now). Similarly, I think there are some improvements in non-govt. hospitals accepting accident victims too in the recent years. It was horrible a couple of decades back when they won't take you in.
Definitely such improvements are saving lives compared to previous years. Now, what's really needed is a fleet of emergency vehicles, trained man-power and good communication network. All these can be easily provided by the govt. (though it's more difficult to create other infrastructure like roads).
Teaching human values in the school, especially in India is a joke!
Teaching human values at home is more sensible.
"...avar nallavaravadhum theeyavar aavadhum annai valarpinile.."
8-)
Tht's true...Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
During my last cbe visit, I did see emergency vehicles(24/7) at some of the worst accident prone zones... But those were tht of some pvt hospitals if I remember it right...
hayyo aasiriyargalum seri illai, petrorgalum seri illai (not all)Quote:
Originally Posted by dev
enge sellum indha paathai :sigh2:
This is what our college is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy
We had a spl programme called 'Shepered Programme" ,each class is assigned to a village near trichy and we had camps there ,spend time with villagers and did many activitirs .
It is compulsary and each one should work there a min hours ,otherwise you won't get degree ,irrespective of your academic excellence.
I wrote my experience here
http://cdjm.blogspot.com/2005/11/blog-post_30.html
theres still a chance ... :thumbsup:
btw just came to the para ...joe anna, u studied in st.josephs college in trichy, wow :P
my physic master said that dr.abdul kalam studied there :)
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Originally Posted by crazy
http://www.sjctni.edu/Shepherd/
Ofcourse ,Didn't you read my last line in that article? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crazy
btw avalo thaana? neenga andha oorla vera ennenna seitheergal'nu ezhuthala? :)
just finished :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
ithanayum sonna en vaatthi(he himself studied in st josephs), sphered prog patthi sonnaara... :banghead: no wonder teachers r just doing their job :hammer:
anyway i wish all schools / coll had a prog like this.
btw, sutti inge'ke keezh andha link paartthen/ padichen :P
Niraya Panninom.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy
We divide our class into many groups ,each one dedicated for Education ,Agriculture ,Electricity & Road facility etc etc.
Eg: Agriculture team will educate and assist the poor formers on testing the soil and do appropriate cultivation with the help of agriculture department.
Education Team will visit each house to give them awareness on importance of education and clarify their doubts.
Actually there is no road and bus for the village assigned to us ..have to walk atleast 2 kms ..We made the villagers fight with authorities and finally got the road.
many more.. :)
sorry for all my digg :oops:
joe anna, just read ivana thamizhan ...sth i felt for long time ... that poem and that pic :thumbsup: and ur reply about thanimanidha vazhipaadu ...good :)
neram kidaikkum podhu ..meethangalayum padikkanum...saw ur reply to someone about trichy ...couldnt find any ..endha archive keezh irukkunnu sonna naanum trichy patthiya ungal karutthai padikkalaam :)
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Originally Posted by joe
BG... this question is not at u.... 8-) ...Quote:
Originally Posted by bingleguy
i too read PP mam's post.... didnt u understand... :roll:
LM....Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
innum majority people ippadi dhaan irukkaanganu sollavandhEn....
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Originally Posted by joe
singaiyilaa? :roll:
Thampi ..Previous post-lam konjam padichu paaruppa.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
That's OK. I felt your above reference was irrelevant. Vera onnum illa.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarna_blr
neenga solla maatteengalaa? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Mr Joe... no probs... i read previous posts also... and ur blog.... :roll:
Glad that you brought it here. It is true Infact the death toll crossed 400 last year here and this year it is mounting as well. But it is confined to certain places in the city. African americans are most of them who commit these murders and more than racial discrimination it is the lack of education and employment opportunites that causes them distress and commit these blunders :evil:
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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
So, it is confirmed? Not some unfounded sensational news in a janatha magazine!
ajithfederer,
Don't you see that in this case arasu has given an 'ara vEkkAdu' badhil? First of all, he doesn't even comprehend the difference between a state and a city (Phily is not a state but a city). In addition, ethnic conflicts / terrorism should not be considered at par with local crime / vandalism etc. You may know better about the local situation but I doubt whether any "ethnic conflict / terrorism" is going on in Phily. Another nonsense is that those were 'common' people that got killed, which is debatable. I live in the metro area of a city rated worse in crime than Phily (I think Detroit is #1 in U.S. currently) and most who get killed are in gang-wars, particularly related to drug trade. There are cases of innocents getting killed in "being in the wrong place at the wrong time", but most locals understand which areas to avoid at what times and it's quite unusual to hear about any visitors getting killed. (And you know how thorough the local media reports crime here, unlike back home).
However, I agree that with the easy availability of guns, safety is a very big concern in mega cities in U.S., despite excellent efforts of law-enforcing authorities.
Even with guns not so freely available, I think our cities (Delhi / Mumbai / Chennai/ Kolkota) must be having similar numbers - due to rowdyism, political rivalry, family conflicts etc. Many don't get reported at all or even when reported, they may be "covered up" (as suicide / heart attack for e.g.)
However, I can understand in one context -that is to give back what Clinton gave us. Unfortunately, it's so late:)