Malathi RangaRajan also has good respect for IR..but she would have more neutral than this guy.
But who knows..? may be IR was a relief for those who watched the movie :)
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Malathi RangaRajan also has good respect for IR..but she would have more neutral than this guy.
But who knows..? may be IR was a relief for those who watched the movie :)
AFAIK, She puts her points in a subtle manner if not in a strong way. But she has more or less become 2 * Indiaglitz nowadays. She never highlights even the obvious negatives present in the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
Nowadays, it is tough to judge anything based on reviews from sites unless we hear / see a particular thing.
btw, raja_fan - Have u seen this movie ? Your opinion on this. :)
Selvakumar,
I have not watched the movie even though I was eagerly planning to do so.
Now the reviews so far are not encouraging me to go to the theatre. I will wait for Sun TV "Ulaga tholai kaatchigalil mudhan muriyaga..Thiraikku vandhu sila maadhangale aana.." :)
Saw MK songs in TV. Disappointing visuals :(
Cheran should limit him with village subjects in my humble opinion..
http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/...yakkannadi.asp
Ithu maathiri IR pathi kevalamana vimarsanam naan padichathillai
:hammer:
Sanjeevi,
The comment was very bitter, but true :)
Yeaps mr Vignesh...i guess IR chooses the script based on BGM rather than the songs i suppose...even post-anumanaspadam he had mentioned in a interview that the film was chosen because of the great scope of re-recording...so i guess this is how IR chooses his movies....:D
Those interludes and orchestration is what made me an IR fan rather than the tune...i remember listening to anandha raagam..the tune did not impress me but when i listened to the music in the ludes i got attracted and from then on i always searched for his songs where there would be such instances....i guess i would call myself a fan of orchestration and music rather than the tunes :D
My take on ajanta and IR's current music
http://mumbairamki.wordpress.com/200...anta-md-raaja/
http://mumbairamki.wordpress.com/200...ya-rasigargal/
Hulkster and Vignesh,
IR does not choose films based on songs or BGM.
He chooses based on the producer/director's devotion towards him.
Yaaraavadhu "Ungalai pol oruvar undaa indha ulagil" endru sonnaal podhum. Namma raajaavukku uchi kulirndhu vidum. Udane harmonium petti meedhu viralgalai vaippaar. Mudhal tune vaasippaar. Director-um mandayai nandraaga aatuvaar. Adhe tune nammai vandhu adaiyum. Naam inge paithiyam pidithu adithu kolvom. :)
Then padam ready aagum..Director petti koduppaar "Raja padathai paarthu vittu ennai katti pidithu mutham koduthaar" endru.
Idhai pola evvalavu padangal kadandha 5 varudangalil..
Ippadi usuppethi usuppethiye udambai rana galamaakkittaangappa :D
I guess what raja_fan says is right.
Only when there is no gap or inhibition between the director and MD, the director can interact and get the best out of MD.
In case of Raja, considering his age and accomplishments, the new filmmakers are scared to reject the tunes he come up with.
The first tune that comes up in his mind is the chosen one.
Only directors like Bala have the guts to ask him for alternative tunes.
Remember the Haneefa's character (arrogant MD) in the movie "Mugavari"? It must have been conceived keeping IR in mind.
So,we have to wait till he works again with BR (possibly Kutraparambarai) and MR.
At this time, i want to remember one incident. For Veera, our IR gave lot of tunes (guess more than 50 tunes) and Rajni has selected what he wanted. Thats why Veera was huge hit.
Like IR said in his recent Kumudam interview, now he is in out of current world ("Naan ungala mathiri illa, naan veru oru ulagathula natha ulagathula iruken" :idontgetit: ayyo yaaravathu avara intha world kondu vangalaen :goodidea:). He don't know current trend, current fan's taste. So, film directors, you have to alert when getting music from IR and the music should satisfy people
If IR changes his style ( to the trend set by ARR which is current ) then everyone will criticise him saying that he is trying to follow ARR !
I dont think audience are interested in folk -western compos like those of the 80s and up to mid 90s. The trend has changed to fusion & 100% western.
IR's speciality and forte is his orchestration , more than the tune for a song. Here he became a champion in the 80s.
Wish, IR continues to focus on orchestration part . Even 4 or 5 movies in a year is fine ( means 1 movie per quarter )
Seivaaraaa avar ??
No. We do not want IR to know current trend, taste etc..
We want just the old Raja, not a new one.
But as Vignesh has put it, we can expect that from Kutraparamparai. Because there will be pressure on both IR and BR to prove their combination again..
More on BR to extract good stuff from IR because it is his dream project.
:exactly:...that is how i became a fan...his orchestration always made me wonder...a indian musician with the ability to produce counterpoints ard 5 to 8...and ever since then i would just watch how he would make his music talk..sure tunes do form a integral part of film music...but when you talk about IR his only interest is to expose to the world the forms of music and how it can be woven to be related to even a single human emotion...you see his non-filmi albums and they dunt have tunes like other non-filmi albums...they are just 100% pure music..and if you see from that view all his albums barring some koothu numbers always have his trademark orchestration :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Hulkster,
I think most IR fans love his songs mostly for his orchestration, that is a open secret. Because when Vairamuthu left him, he had to settle with mediocre lyrics, do you think people cared for stupid lyrics? Not even a bit, he carried his dream-run just by his cheer music.
After listening to his innumerous complicated yet enjoyable live orchestra compostions, it is difficult for us to settle with hollow-synth stuff nowadays he has been using, that is our complaint. Hope IR realises this and goes back to his roots. In the current scenario, only IR can set another trend by going back to live orchestra and using it differently.
The synth stuff was abolished in ajantha i thought...the songs were all reeking of orchestra magic especially thoorigai...the first and second interludes have some wonderful counterpoints :P
Any site with full Ajanta songs ?
Looks like one more hit movie for IR in malayalam..
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/m...cle/30672.html
Any site with full Ajanta songs ?
onlinetamilmp3.com . please listen carefully to Konjam Konjam, Ulagiley Azhagi and oru Mayalogam carefully in good music systemand then comment about the Orchestratrion there are some amazing pieces
http://tamilvibration.dk/index.php?o...=149&Itemid=56
Username is kolaikaran
Password is bloody
Enjoy the songs guys :D
onlinetamilmp3.comQuote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
Thanx Hulkster!
Just heard good quality Ajanta songs in good headphones, the album is AMAZING! IR magic is back in the orchestration. "Thoorigai indri" and "yaarum thodaatha" are stunning. all songs are great (not considering "kaiyil keyboard' and "poduda" as songs!). Only complaint is IR's voice sounds a bit old and strained in "yaarum thodaatha". (btw anyone think the coughing at the end of "enge irunthai" KJY version is actually IR?)
Thanks Hulkster.
Three songs are good..but what use..the movie should win to lift up the songs..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/200704...tmospheresings
Proof of MUSIC IN OUTERSPACE - read on
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/200704...tmospheresings
This is incredible! - sound is at the core and the essence of all of creation!
Todays RAJ TV super 10 songs listed mayakannadi at 1,paruthiveeran at 2.
Actually, if you look at the 10 latest songs listed there, "Ulagilae" indeed deserved to be there :)
http://sify.com/movies/malayalam/ful...hp?id=14435558
vinOdha yAthra termed success...the songs may get some more airtime...at least a couple of them deserved praises...
Sometimes i read our neighbourhood forums. When reading kannadiga's forum, I found a review of Ajantha
http://viggy.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3982
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Yes, it should be some crash film! Totally unknown to everyone! I don’t know the hero, heroine… I can see the names of Tamilians for director, producer… So this could be the kind of film that just comes & goes without any willing intensions. OR it could be a straight rip-off from Tamil or other language film.
But my interest in this album lies on something else! Because, it is the work of a highly-skilled and tremendously-professional individual who doesn’t take anything casually! Just look at the way he sings a Kannada song and look at his pronunciation, enunciation, boldness, confidence, crispness & elegance… Something that any singer (irrespective of whether a local or an outsider) can learn from! This was the intention behind my anguish all these days. Kannadigas forgetting the basics of what’s required to their language…! Look at how this great-man gives importance to the language that he can apprehend… Just deciding to “sing” itself is a testimony to his “seriousness”. That’s why Kannadigas can still remember all the great songs that he rendered to Kannada at various instances, though the “quantity” is limited!!!
“Elli iruve svarave…” (9.4) just goes to show the confidence while composing… The strong foundation in “tune” inspires the rest. The subtle variation in drum beats and violin patterns goes to show what a superior talent he was all these years! His quality has not eroded even now! A single tune has the depth to adjust various moods. Drums to Tabla, Saxophone to Olaga variations just goes to show that “Music” is universal (and everything else is unified on this earth!)
“Bannavu kunchavu…” (9.3) is another perfect song with everyone (composer, lyricist, singer) complementing each other. The singer is brilliant and the alert instrumentals harmonize the voice perfectly. The usage of flute and high-bass violin is just perfect.
“Yaaroo illadha…” (9) is a superb duet which stands way apart from the usual tunes which we see around! The singers again look outstanding (forget their origin!) Somehow this magician can extract the best out of any singers given to him! Instrumentation is again of high-caliber! Guitar (of all frequencies) play an important role. Good lyrics to go with it.
“Kaigalali keyboardu…” (6.8) should be a song trying to match the sequence in a film (rather than other way round). Hence the “forcing” lyrics may overshadow everything and hence the dip in its impression. But you cannot miss out the variations.
“Oh ho yavvana…” (7.8) is a soft song and again you can enjoy the variations in instrumentation. The capability of exploring too many things at a given point, and yet come up with outstandingly unique stuffs all time, amuses like anything! The changeover from “Western” to “Indian Classical” happens so spontaneously, as if there was no such “difference” existent!
“Nannolage yaaro bandha…” (7.9) is a typical Ilayaraja brand song! How many such he gave us in the past, but yet each one of it had its “unique flavor”! Though he is not at his peak right now, you cannot miss out his charm!
“Haaku baa…” (5.8) Not sure about the intention. The lyrics is so carefully written! Looking at the outlook of the songs (I know nothing about this film or its story), I guess a bunch of people (maybe both Hero & Heroine) want to run a Music or/and Dance group! So I don’t think this album or film can be neglected, at least for these songs!
Kalyan (though intentionally tries to play second fiddle to the music without too much experimentation and just trying to match up with tunes) has done a decent job at that. The singers have done a neat job.
The album gets 8.5 (More than Good)
PS: Due to unavoidable circumstances and personal reasons, this maybe my last F.I.R on this forum! Thanks for all the support. Hope I conveyed my feelings & intentions. And I hope I was honest in these reviews. And good that I got a decent album (at least for me) to end up!!! Last thing: I’m not a hater of anything from anywhere, regardless of whether it is good or bad. It is just my intensity to dig-out best.
BTW the reviewer HiFi blindly opposes Tamils and related things. But surprisingly he has great respect our IR and reviewed Ajantha songs very well.
listen to the Ajantha album here in Kannada:
http://kannadaaudio.com/Songs/Moview...e/Ajanthaa.php
This is the reason why he is churning out good numbers in malayalam.From what i gather,This sathyan makes family oriented movies and hardly any of them fail at the BO.He makes about two movies per year and IR is the default MD(atleast in the last 5 years i know).so, IR has a director in malayalam who has a good success rate.cos of this combo, he will obviously be more involved there.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
But in telugu and tamil, he doesn't have a combo with a director who could give atleast one hit per year consistantly.This could be a good reason for him not inspired in giving good numbers.
Rooky,
If that is the case, why pretty decent tunes for Ajantha ?
Once in Ananda Vikatan, they compared IR to natural rain. It will pour heavily some times, just a drizzle some times, gather cloud but fail to pour sometimes etc..We do not know what will happen when.. I think that is true with IR !
But the sad part is usually it pours well at unwanted times and goes unnoticed :(
my review on Ajantha
http://www.thuligal.com/index.php/ajantha/
Ilayaraja creates history
http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2007/apr/25ssajan.htm
" the fillup music came middle of pallavi melts me."
Sanjeevi -exactly !! Nice review !
IR is a living LEGEND
Are ajantha songs so good?
kamesh rathnam ,
better to check out yourselves :)
as sanjeevi has mentioned in his blog and as i have in mine ,One very bad song ,one averegae song ,one good-bad song and four good songs ...But its vintage raaja !
I just got the CD. Words cannot describe how musically talented Raja is. Right from his debut days till now, what a Raaja he is. These songs further prove that he's still the MAESTRO of music!
Kaasu Kayil is undoubtedly the addictive song (give or take a few more listenings, it grows on you, trust me!) Maestro's rustic vocals add more sweetness to the song and it's really a good hear. Ditto goes to Kadhal Indru.
Konjam is also another feather in the cap for Raaja sir. Karthik and Shreya Goshal do full justice to their songs. Dunno if anyone has noticed, but the tune seems to be taken from an SPB song in the lines of "Konji Koni Pesaadhi Solla kellalumaa...." Not sure what film its from, but that's the silver lining of it. Still, very good song.
Mayalogom goes back from his 90s and inspired tune from an old movie and shades of Kaadhalilukku Mariyadhai. Tippu's voice is great and newcomer Ranjitha is good too.
Finally comes Ullathey by Yesudas. Paatu Super! Listen it for Yesudas and instrumental.
MayaKannadi takes time to sink in. Like ARR's Guru took time to sink it but post film release, the songs grew on me. Similarly, Maestro's songs take time to grow on you. Repeated hearings are a must. Hats off to you Raaja sir. Looking forward to your next album, "Cheeni Kum" in hindi!
Nickraman,
:) Romba late !
People have discussed and forgot MayaKannadi here and now discussing Ajanta..
Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
mayakannadai 10varusham munaadi vantha padam illa sir Tv channels are airing the songs now only so we can discuss. Listen to Konjam konjam and Ulagile azhagi once again in good music system and write ur comments
K,
I did not object to any discussion..Just I was kidding that just when people were done with all fights on MK and reviews, this guy is late in his review..
No hard feelings.
thank U RaJa_Fan