IR's New albums - Ver 2008

The albums of 2008 so far strongly indicate a bunch of changes in IR.
His energy level seems to be in a new high and his interaction with people has become more cheerful as reports suggest.

What I wonder is how much confidence this man should have inside his heart ! He agrees more and more films. How can a guy come up with more and more tunes and rearrange the same patterns ( like in a kaliedoscope ) he had weaved over 30 years now !!
And yet he tirelessly springs up surprises like "Chirugali" or "Chandamama" without any fear of replicating any of his thousands of tunes so far ! Truly amazing !

Wonderful songs..IR definitely in a good form now.mm..getting his foot work and hand-eye co-ordination right..Expect some huge hits soon.

Chandamama is simply mermerising..wonderful flow,intimidating interludes and shreya goshal's sweet voice does it all.Loved it very much.

Chirugali another IR stamp melody there and a wonderful theme piece.

Good effort from IR.No complaints at all from me...

Meanwhile, Behindwoods reviews Dhanam's audio..

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mus...ic-review.html

The difference between IR and MSV is the later apart from composing for films didnt try any full length instrumental albums like HTNI, nothing but wind etc., so when raaja came and took charge capturing the younger generation img. then, MSV was kind of fading away from the scene.
The same thing is happening to Raaja now, in my opinion he fails to capture the younger generation imagination now. YSR, AR doing the job perfectly. The last time Raaja did something close to that was decade back with kaadhalukku mariyaadhai.
But still Raaja can do something which no other MD in TFM including Rahman cant do thats writing a symphony or fusion albums. for some reasons he is not concentrating on that.

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The difference between IR and MSV is the later apart from composing for films didnt try any full length instrumental albums like HTNI, nothing but wind etc.,

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Not true. I have seen the MSV's instrumental disk in the collection in our school (light music) and it was phenomenal. I wasn't able to locate the same on the web and created a thread in msvtimes.com requesting them to have it online - they didn't do for a while and I haven't checked recently.

Most people who used to listen to IOKS in the late 70's & early 80's are familiar with the starting music of the program 'pongum poompunal' in the morning when new songs were broadcast. This is from that MSV instrumental album. There was another with a locomotive engine sound which was the best of all, IMO. This piece is somewhat similar to the prelude of 'andha mAnaippArungaL azhagu', which is awesome as well.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

Saw Aval appadiththaan finally and was suprised to see how with a very low cost, available singers, he has created a track that can beat any modern song hands down when played side by side.
Added to that - he also lends his voice to a letter for Arun (Kamal) from his Father!!!

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are you referring to the 'uravugal thodarkathai' song ? OMG, what an astounding prelude and a spellbinding first interlude!! thats the IR am missing these days!

and btw, Rajinikanth simply rocks in Aval Appadithaan! his "dei mapplai" discussions with Kamal are some of the best scenes of Rajini in his career IMO!

http://mumbairamki.blogspot.com/2008...p-goes-up.html

"First UO, dhanam and now this - this is certainly upward trend to a good extent , although still short of the timless classics he has produced. My last sentence is going to irk some sincere fans "

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Saw Aval appadiththaan finally and was suprised to see how with a very low cost, available singers, he has created a track that can beat any modern song hands down when played side by side.
Added to that - he also lends his voice to a letter for Arun (Kamal) from his Father!!!

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are you referring to the 'uravugal thodarkathai' song ? OMG, what an astounding prelude and a spellbinding first interlude!! thats the IR am missing these days!

and btw, Rajinikanth simply rocks in Aval Appadithaan! his "dei mapplai" discussions with Kamal are some of the best scenes of Rajini in his career IMO!

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you have to listen to 'vaazhkai odam sella' by SJ that sits right besides ' Enna desamo' when it comes to pathos ridden Ghazal kind of number that is simply awesome.
Usually ghazal kind of songs require two to three patient listenings before you start appreciating their inner beauty. This one takes you in to the sanctum straight away in the first hearing. And it suits the beautiful movie ever so aptly lke a stamen on the red hibiscus flower - tender - neatly poised and delicate.

From which movie this one 'vaazhkai odam sella' ? Enna desamo is from UKNV i hope.

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you have to listen to 'vaazhkai odam sella' by SJ that sits right besides ' Enna desamo' when it comes to pathos ridden Ghazal kind of number that is simply awesome.
Usually ghazal kind of songs require two to three patient listenings before you start appreciating their inner beauty. This one takes you in to the sanctum straight away in the first hearing. And it suits the beautiful movie ever so aptly lke a stamen on the red hibiscus flower - tender - neatly poised and delicate.

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I just happened to miss out mentioning 'vaazhkai odam' - thats all! yes its a perfect Ghazal feel song, especially the part "ulagathhil penmai uyarvaaga villai" followed by the humming by SJ is simply out of the world!

as a digression, you still didnt give your response to my comments on Rajinikanth's classy performance in that film!

App_engine i didnt know that MSV scored a full length instrumental album. That one has any title?

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App_engine i didnt know that MSV scored a full length instrumental album. That one has any title?

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Looks like it's titled "thrilling thematic tunes of MSV" or something like that (I don't remember what it was on the disk in our school collection, that they used to play before / after some school functions, being an instrumental album).

Look at this thread, opened a year ago:
http://www.msvtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=216

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Now let's get back to dhanam & malleppuvu (and UO):-)

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Is 'Chandamama' based on a previous song. I can't seem to narrow it down.

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I am not sure but I felt couple of lines in charanams similar to 'iLavattam' from My Dear Marththaandan.

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The difference between IR and MSV is the later apart from composing for films didnt try any full length instrumental albums like HTNI, nothing but wind etc., so when raaja came and took charge capturing the younger generation img. then, MSV was kind of fading away from the scene.
The same thing is happening to Raaja now, in my opinion he fails to capture the younger generation imagination now. YSR, AR doing the job perfectly. The last time Raaja did something close to that was decade back with kaadhalukku mariyaadhai.
But still Raaja can do something which no other MD in TFM including Rahman cant do thats writing a symphony or fusion albums. for some reasons he is not concentrating on that.

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I agree with you. But please give some more time to Raja to get hold of right sounds in the synth. Once he does that (consciously or unconsciously), then there will be no stopping. After listening to Mallepuvvu, I am confident that that day is not far away.

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The last time Raaja did something close to that was decade back with kaadhalukku mariyaadhai.

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The last time Raaja did something close to that was decade back with kaadhalukku mariyaadhai.

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What about Pithamagan Selva? :lol: iLangaathu was popular among youngsters too.

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What about Pithamagan Selva? :lol: iLangaathu was popular among youngsters too.

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Beg to differ A LOT ! :lol:

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What about Pithamagan Selva? :lol: iLangaathu was popular among youngsters too.

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Beg to differ A LOT ! :lol:

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Please note 'for NK also you will have to beg to differ A LOT' :D

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you have to listen to 'vaazhkai odam sella' by SJ that sits right besides ' Enna desamo' when it comes to pathos ridden Ghazal kind of number that is simply awesome.
Usually ghazal kind of songs require two to three patient listenings before you start appreciating their inner beauty. This one takes you in to the sanctum straight away in the first hearing. And it suits the beautiful movie ever so aptly lke a stamen on the red hibiscus flower - tender - neatly poised and delicate.

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I just happened to miss out mentioning 'vaazhkai odam' - thats all! yes its a perfect Ghazal feel song, especially the part "ulagathhil penmai uyarvaaga villai" followed by the humming by SJ is simply out of the world!

as a digression, you still didnt give your response to my comments on Rajinikanth's classy performance in that film!

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On rajini's performance, I am churning out something on that. however this being Raaja's thread I don't want to discuss here.
If you want my opinion - I would say it was a vintage performance

Gaajula has a few phrases similar to 'Botany' song from Udhayam in anupallavi??

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Please note 'for NK also you will have to beg to differ A LOT' :D

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Why ? May be you think everyone will be in *begging mode* after that ? :lol:

Sorry... I won't enter into that mode at any point of my life.. Hope you get that :lol:

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Please note 'for NK also you will have to beg to differ A LOT' :D

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Why ? May be you think everyone will be in *begging mode* after that ? :lol:

Sorry... I won't enter into that mode at any point of my life.. Hope you get that :lol:

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Lets keep it down, Selva in this thread. We will discuss once it is released.

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Lets keep it down, Selva in this thread. We will discuss once it is released.

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I have always kept this AWAY from this section Judge.
Moreover, I don't think I will DISCUSS on this in my life time.
I should have some info on that. I don't think I will GAIN it

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Lets keep it down, Selva in this thread. We will discuss once it is released.

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I have always kept this AWAY from this section Judge.
Moreover, I don't think I will DISCUSS on this in my life time.
I should have some info on that. I don't think I will GAIN it

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OK!

my initial impressions of Mallepoovu

1.chandamama - WOW first interlude with beautiful piano usage and strings are a welcome addition! the charanam has the flow that we all know IR for! but strictly IR shd not have sung this song and if he can also do away with the synth replacing with live instruments, then....

2.chirugaali - hmmm - ok tune and uninteresting interlude

3.gaajula - didnt impress me on first hearing - maybe tailored to a situation - again interludes are missing IR's zing

4.hero - once-listen-forget-it track - second interlude has a short violin soliloquy that just gives a whiff of IR's class, but the overall song - wudnt touch it with a bargepole from a distance

5.lokam - am getting tired of such insipid tunes from IR -

6. malle poovulo - nice pallavi, with weird sounds in the first interlude, ordinary charanam - second interlude starts off interestingly but then meanders away - charanam has an underlying spanish guitar like sound

7.suvvi suvvi - prelude is IR of the old - pallavi is rhythm based hence melody is chequered - 1st interlude is WOW! - charanam is so-so on first hearing

8.Theme music - pick of the album! but would not rank it with any of earlier IR's themes

9.vaasthava natho - interesting beginning with spanish (or is it latino-style ?) riffs and then comes 3 min of torture

hmmm - overall IR seems to be content with giving 3 good nos in an album that promised much - maybe am being too greedy

at this jucture, IR needs a BIG commercial breakthrough - which for him cannot/will not happen (IMO) without a genuinely attractive album with him in full form - that has always been the case with most of his telugu films/albms, during the 1980s and early 1990s - his half-hearted attempts will not gain popular acceptance

Mallepoovu has one great 'chandamama' and 3 decent tracks in "chirugali", "gajula" and "mallepoovolo" - though they are way ahead of contemporary tunes, from a HCIRF view, they are below his earlier standards

IR is perhaps not pushing himself hard enough for non-malayalam films! what am looking forward to is an explosive album that will stun with its variety and tempo - if IR had not done an album called GURU (Malayalam) or a Devadhai, a Hey Ram, an MX, an Azhaghi, my expectations wudnt have been this high!

IMO, Uliyin osai is the pick of all of IR's recent albums!

Mr.Judge may i know wats the issue between Selva and u?

100.
http://itwofs.com/milliblog/2008/08/...ugu-ilayaraja/

People like a_e, Jaiganes and irir123 etc,


please dont digress too much like Rahni, MSV etc unless the info you post has some relevance to this thread !

I have seen a_e deleting such posts from the thread. But when it comes to his own digressions, I don't know what he is doing !!

I liked suvvi suvvi , hero nonchene song very much , esp the latter for the cool backgrounds.

Did anybody feel that the charanam of chirugali was mesmerising and the pallavi /anu pallavi was average ?

MP songs are going to be big hits in AP. No doubts about it ! :)

mallepuvvu:

ChandamAmA is very nicely done (Sounds like a faster version of 'dEva sangeetham neeyallE' of Guru). Excellent song! First interlude is goose bump stuff!!

Bhava's song (suvvi suvvi) also sounds very pleasant!

MallEppuvvulO is sweet (Shreya excels and Karthik supports well, reminds me of some Hariharan song in Thamizh)

GAjula & ChirugAli are ok numbers (Vijay sounds like his dad now, lovable!)

Decent album!

That "Hero" song is a fun number, but see how IR has played around with an excellent pallavi !

If IR is going to produce this movie in tamil, just these tunes are enough to create waves in tamil, especially that chirugali.

I did not believe RS's excitement when he told about the Nandalala song he happened to hear. Now I have full confidence !

I watched IR speak in Teja news yesterday night. This was in the audio release function of Malle.... He said if you find something in music ...come....he said RA..he asked did u find any new swaram in music..this was like IR making fun of the present generation MDS...this was in bad taste....He said the same during RPO..he said no one else can do it...
oh ! i thought IR was angry and yes he was angry...Kamesh, thats me..for all these days had forgotten that for me IR stops with music and i shd nt go beyond it..

As a devotee of Ramanar, i expect him to be calm and to have lesser ego and unforunately he is no where near :oops:

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As a devotee of Ramanar, i expect him to be calm and to have lesser ego and unforunately he is no where near :oops:

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There is a sea of difference between 'Ego' and 'speaking truth'.

Kamesh,

Yes, Let us continue to focus on his music rather than his personal qualities :)

A surprising review of Dhanam at behindwoods

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mus...ic-review.html

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I watched IR speak in Teja news yesterday night. This was in the audio release function of Malle.... He said if you find something in music ...come....he said RA..he asked did u find any new swaram in music..this was like IR making fun of the present generation MDS...this was in bad taste....He said the same during RPO..he said no one else can do it...
oh ! i thought IR was angry and yes he was angry...Kamesh, thats me..for all these days had forgotten that for me IR stops with music and i shd nt go beyond it..

As a devotee of Ramanar, i expect him to be calm and to have lesser ego and unforunately he is no where near :oops:

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Raja has taken refuge in sprituality but he is not a spiritual person per se. he is a bundle of contradictions. Its the same persom who said i am lower than an earthworm if u care to remember.
This kind of conflicts in his persona that fuels creativity but that unfortunately no longer happens as it used to in his prime time.
As raja_fan says it dosent matter at all as long as he delivers!!

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Originally Posted by kameshratnam

I watched IR speak in Teja news yesterday night. This was in the audio release function of Malle.... He said if you find something in music ...come....he said RA..he asked did u find any new swaram in music..this was like IR making fun of the present generation MDS...this was in bad taste....He said the same during RPO..he said no one else can do it...
oh ! i thought IR was angry and yes he was angry...Kamesh, thats me..for all these days had forgotten that for me IR stops with music and i shd nt go beyond it..

As a devotee of Ramanar, i expect him to be calm and to have lesser ego and unforunately he is no where near :oops:

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Why do you expect him to be something?
He is not your spiritual guru or something is he?
He is a music director/composer - rest is all cuts on a diamond - one might present a different allure compared to another.

MP - a fresh one from IR. To me, all songs are so good including 'vasthavo'. :-)

wondering how MP would sound wiht less use of synth.

Hope telugu people support it. Guess tamil side has gone with 'rap' and songs that has words trying to fit with the music. Melody isn't working for them anymore.

Can 'raaga' experts here say on what raga is 'chandamamma' is based? It is super saturated with melody.

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Guess tamil side has gone with 'rap' and songs that has words trying to fit with the music. Melody isn't working for them anymore.

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Nothing like that !
People take note of good works.
Manasellam and ONOK were both flops. But "nee thoongum.." and "Kaatril varum.." are both liked by people till today..

Even Dhanam is going to be a flop, a decent picturization of "Ilamai.." and "Unakkulle" will make the songs live up !