IlayaRaja's New Albums 2013-15 - Mahendran film/Thaarai thappattai/Mythri

My take on "Abbayitho Ammayi" :
Thank you for sharing the link to listen to IR newbie "Abbayitho Ammayi".
My Top 3 pick from "Abbayitho Ammayi" goes as
"okkasaari", "kannulu" and "maatellO".
In "okkasaari", when the singers seem to have a whale of a time enjoying their role , I have to admit that it gets highly infectious and I can vouch for that foot stomping rhythm to get even the laziest couch potato to move his body. The entire song,not just the second interlude is age defying.
"kannulu kalanu" - oozes "honey" all over and it has all making of that perfect hit which the maverick used to relentlessly manufacture in the 80's. It is really hard not to like this one. Nice rendition too.
MatellO is that apt bed time, uncluttered stream of milk and nectar . May be in the regular Mohanam scale of Raja , but in times where pseudo melodies masquerade as
genuines, this one is pristine.
Songs that could be a bit more better : "tholi paruvam" - singers need to sing with more verve.The synth beats lack energy and the intermediate music piece that is played between 2 lines in the pallavi , ala "muthirai ippOdhu kuthidu thappAdhu" song sounds pretty dull when compared to the organic sounds used in the latter song. But all these little nit-picks vanish during the second interlude that strike me as a bolt out of the blues. Only Raja could conceive such a beautiful surprise.
Okkasaari is a rap after all and Blaze and Co did have a blast. But a fast paced melody like "saradale" demands vocals with melodious voices like shreya, Shweta Mohan , Saindavi. Somehow felt the flattened out western pop voices failed to bring out some intricacies.
I completely agree with Vibavari's voice sounding monotonous, lifeless in the "edhukku choodunnu" song, that could have been another "kajurAho kanavilE" , also in KeeravAni with a singer like Shreya or Shweta. hm...
- mythila

Tharai Thappattai to have 7 songs.

http://home.mykollywood.com/2015/11/...ai-thappattai/

thanks,

Krishnan

http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-...ilayaattu.html

Nice album.I seriously envy Telugu audience... Looks like Telugu directors are getting good variety of music from Raja...Different genre movies unlike in Tamil.

IR received best musical score award for "Love and Love only" movie. The article says australian award. Not sure which one is it. The article has pictures of award!

http://www.vikatan.com/cinema/article.php?aid=56126


BTW, you can hear a glimpse of one of the songs in the below youtube link. Heard it sometime back. Good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btg6KWN3R2o

thanks,

Krishnan

Thara thapattai audio was planned to release this week - dec 17th, still happening??any insiders?

Thara Thappatai audio launch on 25th or 26th of December. Only limited audio cd quantities are pressed.

"Oru melliya kOdu" audio to release in first week of Jan 2016.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/e...w/50245480.cms

"...Ilaiyaraaja's re-recording is a masterpiece..."

thanks,

Krishnan

Ilaiyaraaja 1000 "Thaarathappata"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfaWeFE3jM


Ethnic Symphony - Thaarai Thappatai Theme.

[QUOTE=K;1275869]Ilaiyaraaja 1000 "Thaarathappata"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfaWeFE3jM


What an album !!!!
Each song/piece is outstanding.
The long wait was really worth it.

Here is one more which is not included in the original CD

Aarambam Aavadhu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsk0...ature=youtu.be

Great Album
Hooked on to it since morning.
Going to get original CD from India by courier.
God!
Music God
IR
Incomparable, Iniyilla one and only composer living amidst us.
I am blessed again today. Cannot ask for more .

Paruruvaaya - I get to remember prakashraj doing saashtaagam getting emotional in IR studio as mentioned by him. Truely this song evokes multiple emotions needless to say each and every cell gets its share and rejuvenation.

Truely we can call this mindblowing experience.

Long live our music God.

Initially we heard that the album has 12 numbers as reported , may be we have several bits coming in , filling in to take the story telling and narration forward??
I wish the remaining gems find its way in the BGS or at appropriate montages thru out the film.

Does anyone notice that the aattakkari maman ponnu song is very unconventional in the design and orchestration? Its like the song itself is "drunk", where despite the regular interludes and preludes, the stanzas are purposely broken instead of being free flowing. Its like broadway theater feel with a bit of playfulness.


I am destroyed by the thaarai thapattai theme. The interplay with different percussions is one thing but once those nadhaswarams come in and lay onto you, it becomes a symphony of anger. Sasikumar does not need to even emote when the angry moments come, just this theme is enough to make him look like a angry destroyer.

If musicians of the future and the present want to learn about innovation, the thaarai thappattai theme should become a thesis. He has basically used nadhaswaram, voice accompaniments (at the end) and percussions in a way you will never imagine.

Thaarai Thapattai CD Cover & Poster

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7ai86zzL_n...25281%2529.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXDdQEmUEAAZHPq.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8HU8GPTaYI...25282%2529.jpg

Without Lettering, Magnificent IR

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/attachmen...5&d=1451130757

Just listened only once. Couldn't resist to post.
My top rated ones
Theme music - combination of symphony like, traditional (tamil/Kerala style) etc. Just mind blowing!!!

Paruruvaaya and Attakari song catches one right away.

Rest of songs needs more listenings.
Sharreth's idarinum song - he sounds like Balamuralikrishna to me.


For the time being - People who are in Oscar awards team, including one of our Indian born musician - hope you all get to hear it. This is the music from a man who has crossed more than 1000 films and still stronger and exceptional than anyone on earth!!!!

Can we please stop bringing in ARR and Oscar at every single album launch? Let's just appreciate the music for what it is.

Album seems to look at sins and suffering even more than Naan kadavul. Not sure if my mind can tolerate another dose of heavy melancholy like that. :shaking:

My thoughts exactly. I don't blame IR for doing what was required of him by Bala but I don't think I can stomach more heavy melancholy. It's a pity that increasingly TFM only has scope for these kind of scores from IR (as compared to the refreshing lightness of Abbhaiyitho...).

Dochu/Hulkster/CK
when I first heard the Paaruruvaayo song, it gave me goose bumps and not to mention the melancholic connection it brings alongside Naan Kadavul (Kannil Paarvai Pol). with Kannil paarvai song the rendition was stunning and the way the music would complement the singer and take it to a crescendo during second charanam and its interludes nothing short of master piece. who else but IR can conceive such orchestration for s simple melancholic tune and for a blind person singing with utmost emotions and dissertion.

coming back to Paaruravaayo , again the context may be similar because the connection and story telling format is for a bala film. Again it gives me a Eerie feeling everytime (about 7-8 times) I have listed to from yesterday.

Question that arises each time how come this man at 73 years feel , get into the skin of the character time and again and deliver such a master piece.
Mind blowing with the way he orchestrates and executes seamlessly. Did you see a newbie sitting on the mixing console when the master was in full flow conducting along side and Bala chipping in briefly with some utterances while recording was in progress?

so organically things are being done and for the 1000th time !!!!

How on earth he can do it again and again.

I imagine and desperately want Kamal to get back to IR for another round of composing session and extract another master piece like Hey ram or Virumaandi kinda album . we can see the man in full throttle action giving his best!!!

Hmmmm.... Kadavule,!!! let this materiaise .....

while browsing those Youtube videos, once again I revisited the July dated Thanthi TV , Tanjavur location shooting spot and IR visit.
How much silly can the media persons get for the Nth time and instigate and irritate the Music god.

One guy asks questions like .....
Sir, Neega recenta Hindila "Shamitabh: maadri padangallukum Isai amaikkireenga and Ippo Balavoda padamana Tharai Thappattai madiriyana Gramiya padangallukkum ore nerathile work panringo??? Eppadi ungalala sathiyamaagudu?

If I was sitting there beside Bala or another assistant in the crowd, I would come right underway and smack this media guy?

How much more stupid can these questions get and at the way he puts his question?

For IR stature he got annoyed for sure and took on to answer it by quoting the best example possible and for the Nth time that I have seen.

Seriously he should refrain from Media from now on and give it back to these dumb asses until they realize their mistake and repent???

Seriously .......

All questions are so flat , standard , Immature , some times ridiculing like the one asked during Beep song controversy last week.

Media and scribes of today are worst , do not know what they are supposed to learn and perform in the field ?

I am saying this to all the media from NI, Karnataka, AP and TN mostly. Kerala the Interviewing process and media men do not exaggerate or create Hype for every silly things going on each day. people there are knowledgeable to a large extent and refrain from mediocre and cheap publicity.

Tamil nadu strives on Hype, Tension and Padattamana suzhnilai each day. Media is responsible for this situation and starts at dawn each day.

Bala movies have always talked about the extremes of birth, life & death. Its his way of showing reality through motion picture.

Sethu/Nanda ends with death.
Avan Ivan closes with a death rally.
Pitha Magan opens with a brith in a graveyard.
Naan kadavul starts with a search in Kasi amoung cremating & floating bodies.
Paradesi is almost a walk on rope between birth & death, a life left hanging somewhere inbetween.

So Thaarai Thappatai is not going to be any different. The amazement is that IR supporting Bala with different shades to a common idea. Even YSR in 'Oru Aiyram Yennai' from Nandha purely merged with his father.

Indha Pongal Kari Kuruma thaan (LoL). IR bgm-ku waiting. GVP in Paradesi was good, but the visuals were eating out his score. Bala needs IR, even IR's Silience is Music.

I think the tone has become more serious with Naan Kadavul and if the music is any indication, Thaarai Thappatai will follow suit. Sethu had the love track to begin with which gave IR more scope to show different shades of emotion. Pithamagan was even more mainstream and produced the lovely Elangathu. With Naan Kadavul, it's become all melancholy. I will have to wait sometime to slowly digest this new monster.

ஊர்கள் கூடும் திருநாளை
தொடங்கிவைக்கும் என் கூட்டம்
முடிந்தால் ஊரோரம் ஒதுங்கி வாழவேண்டும்

இசைதெய்வம் கலைவாணி
எனக்கருளும் போதும்
ஊர்தெய்வம் பேசாது சாட்சிபோல பார்க்கும்

நிறைந்த எந்தன் நெஞ்சம்
திறந்திருக்கும் வானம்
குறைகள் தன்னைத் தள்ளி
உண்மை கொண்டு வாழும்

எனக்கென்று எது உண்டு
இங்கு இந்த மண்ணில்
எந்த எதிர்பார்ப்பும் இல்லை
வேறு என்ன வேண்டும்

இசையிலும் எழுத்திலும் இளையராஜா ஆடிய தாண்டவம்தான் தாரைதப்பட்டை

எங்கேயும் பிசிறாத, தயங்கி நிற்காத தெளிவான இசை ஓட்டம் ராஜாவின் முத்திரை. #தாரைதப்பட்டை யின் 'நாயகன் அறிமுக தீம் இசைப்பாடல்' ஒரு சோறுபதம்.

இந்த தீம் இசையும் பல்லவி, சரணம் என அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள மற்ற திரையிசைப் பாடல்களைப் போல ஒன்றுதான். குரலுக்கு பதிலாக துளைக்கருவி. அம்புடுதேன்!

Hulkster,
I am sorry, you are feeling the other way. I had to bring that up because, I felt there is nothing wrong in expressing right and wrong. It is how IR expressed his views against the reporter who asked an irrelevant question.

My point was that, IR's mastery isn't being noticed and I wish Oscar team notices that such great music is coming from a man who has surpassed the number of films even for a western composer.

I am not sure on what occasion should such things be brought up.

Tharai thappatai....

Listened more (more than 20 times)
As a normal song to listen to, I would pick 'aatakari and vanthana'. Idarinum and parurvaaya is heavy - not for normal listening. Aarambum...sadly very bland and so is hero intro tune.

Theme music stands out the most and next aattakari.

I listened in Bose noise canceling headphones too, the theme music could have been better recorded. So many sounds, at some points, all merges and can't even make out. I wish the kerala and tamil style drums etc were played in different channels and rest kept separate.

No problem Dochu! Bringing out a way to make IR be noticed is fine, just that it does not have to involve us calling out ARR or any other composer. Unfortunately, Oscar awards are not the correct or best award for music. Grammy should be the actual one but it has lost its value over the years.

Somehow IR does not seem interested in being noticed on the international stage. I have said before that he is like a mad scientist who prefers to explore more and more of music with his ideas while letting people like us spread the wonder of his output.

Agree about the theme music sound recording, especially towards the end. There is a clap like sound right at the end which i can't make out whether it is really a clap sound or not.

Probably the most stunning part of the theme music is the last part. The human chorus replacing the nadhaswaram to result in a very omnious and mysterious sound alongside the raw anger of the percussions catches me off guard all the time. I wonder whether tharai thappattai has some horror in the way sasikumar seeks revenge on all the evildoers.

Clue : The way the lead actress presents herself in the teaser !

Dochu : Did you try adjusting a bit with the Bass frequency ? Or play it on an audio system by plugging your laptop as input and use the Bose Headphones as the output from the audio system. I did not capt the irregularities, even before hearing it bassy.

Adjusted the Bass as I thought the percussion needed more thumping, and when the Odukai was brought in I was blown.

Hulkster : Towards the end, I could get only the Bell sounds. Did not catch any clap. When the horns are blown, the chorus seems to chant ARO ARO ARO ... HA. Then I hear distant bell sound like a 'Salangai Oli', all the while the Pee Pee going out of sink.

A terrific composition. Thavil & crash cymbals alongside with Nadaswaram & Chenda accompanied by Oodukai & Chorus with a fabulous peak Shankha, it was like a fantastic jugalbandi experience.

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Originally Posted by mappi

Clue : The way the lead actress presents herself in the teaser !

Dochu : Did you try adjusting a bit with the Bass frequency ? Or play it on an audio system by plugging your laptop as input and use the Bose Headphones as the output from the audio system. I did not capt the irregularities, even before hearing it bassy.

Adjusted the Bass as I thought the percussion needed more thumping, and when the Odukai was brought in I was blown.

Hulkster : Towards the end, I could get only the Bell sounds. Did not catch any clap. When the horns are blown, the chorus seems to chant ARO ARO ARO ... HA. Then I hear distant bell sound like a 'Salangai Oli', all the while the Pee Pee going out of sink.

A terrific composition. Thavil & crash cymbals alongside with Nadaswaram & Chenda accompanied by Oodukai & Chorus with a fabulous peak Shankha, it was like a fantastic jugalbandi experience.

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Those crash cymbals are IR's favourite background sound effect for percussion-based angry compositions. He used it in Om Sivoham in Naan Kadavul, Adada in Pithamagan and Thondru Thottu Indru Varai in Avatharam

If anybody needed to know IR's style, the theme music is the most obvious composition. He basically replaced contemporary western classical instruments for a symphony, with those used in tamil folk. That is to say that for his compositions, all instruments are part of one family; they have no specific genre and are just accompaniments to the situation portrayed by the composition. This is probably the simplest way of saying that all genres and instrument point only to the wind which forms the music.

Hulkster,
There are numerous noble people who are not in the limelight at all, but have done great things. Although it is sad that they did not get the recognition, as you said they may prefer to 'not to have it' too.

It is my personal aggravation that such great composer (who is beyond others) isn't recognized yet while others are.

I was playing the it my sony mp3 player and also tried home theater system. I am not an audiophile or know more about it, but thought IR would separate into channels (?) like L,R, center etc. so that distinct sounds can be hear in those channels alone. It all sounded in the same 'center'. Hence couldn't isolate it.
Hope I was able to explain it. (basically, sometimes, you hear one particular instrument in right ear alone, like that....)

By no means does IR lack recognition. If that appears to be the case currently, it is only because he is a yesteryear composer operating in a flavour-of-the-season game (which is what film music is). I seem to remember in some of the Rajkiran films from the 90s there would be tall claims about IR's mastery right at the start of the opening credits. Oscars aren't the only kind of recognition and furthermore recognition cannot be a competitive sport where we measure what recognition has accrued to IR vis a vis ARR. IR was king of Tamil film music throughout the 80s and up to early 90s and has won National Award twice. What more recognition is required? Consider that his chief influence in Western music, J S Bach, wasn't even considered a great composer in his lifetime. Many of the great artists of earlier centuries died bereft of either recognition or money. Bram Stoker died in penury for instance and how much money Hollywood has made by reprising his classic work 'Dracula'. Compared to such examples, we should be grateful that IR has in fact been showered with adulation and respect possibly beyond his wildest dreams in his lifetime.

Director Samuthrakani's movie "APPA" has music by IR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCbB2w9MPIs

thanks,

Krishnan

Ck,
very well said. I agree.
Probably, like many other fans of IR, I felt the pinch when others who are not on par with IR seems to boast and get appreciated.

But deep in our hearts, we know the truth. Guess, that's more than enough appreciation for IR.

Hi All,

Wish you a HAPPY & PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR 2016 !

I have started a new thread for IR's albums 2016, news and titbits. Below is the link. Let us please continue our discussions there.

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...71#post1278671

thanks,

Krishnan

Track 1- * "Hero" intro theme'naalum adhula "music" dhaan hero...#Thaarai Thappattai..This Hero Intro Theme is in Sindhu Bhairavi | S R2 G2 M1 G2 P D1 N2 S | N2 D1 P M1 G2 R1 S N2 S...Raja has explored all dimensions of Sindhu Bhairavi in the past -- from the deep melancholy of Mani Osai Kettu Ezhundhu (Payanangal Mudivadhillai) to erotic Sivarathiri Thookam Yedhu (Micheal Madhana Kama Rajan) ....His Ram Ram (in Hey Ram) was a more militant sounding Sindhu Bhairavi...Here in this theme, the sindhu bhairavi evokes devotion, is artistic, powerful and the Nadhaswaram stands tall with its all glory...Another such similar use of devotion and emotionally intense Sindhu Bhairavi is found in Amman Kovil Kumbham Inge (Aranmanai Kili).....

Track 2 - Vathana Vathana - Priyadarshini (along with Kavitha Gopi) has tried a Kovai Kamala genre here - What an attitude in the singing man !! Just love this song because it celebrates the joyous village festival music in a grand way ! It is fun filled track but maintains its king royale knd of stature ! கிராமத்தில் கூத்து பாடல்கள் கேட்டவர்கள் இந்த பாடலின் அழகை இன்னும் ஆழமாய் உணர்வார்கள் :-)

Track 3- பாருரு வாய பிறப்பறவேண்டும் பத்திமை யும்பெற வேண்டும். Manickavasagar's Ennappadhigam.....Sathya Prakash, Surmukhi have sung like meditation...this tune is like that...it is not music...it is meditation....this is just divine tune in Mayamalawagowlai ....S R1 G3 M1 P D1 N3 S | S N3 D1 P M1 G3 R1 S

பாருரு வாய பிறப்பறவேண்டும் பத்திமை யும்பெற வேண்டும்
சீருரு வாய சிவபெரு மானே செங் கமல மலர்போல்
ஆருரு வாயஎன் னார முதேஉன் அடியவர் தொகை நடுவே
ஓருருவாய நின் திருவருள் காட்டி என்னையும் உய்யக்கொண் டருளே

பத்தில னேனும் பணிந்தில னேனும்உன் உயர்ந்தபைங் கழல் காணப்
பித்தில னேனும் பிதற்றில னேனும் பிறப்பறுப்பாய எம்பெருமானே
முத்தனை யானே மணியனை யானே முதல்வ னேமுறை யோஎன்று
எத்தனை யானும் யான்தொடர்ந் துன்னை இனிப்பிரிந் தாற்றேனே.

(lyrics source - http://www.shaivam.org/tamil/thirumu...ivacha_044.htm)

Track 4 - Idarinum - Powerful lyrics from Raja and effortless singing as usual by Sharreth ! This is set in raga subhapantuvarali, the scale that is claimed to make you cry....May be thats why the song reminds one of Thedinen Deva Deva of Sri Ragavendra...This tune will live long long years to come. Timeless classic !! Subhapanthuvarali is | S R1 G2 M2 P D1 N3 S | S N3 D1 P M2 G2 R1 S - the raga creates gloomy effect ! - Another great number in Subhapanthuvarali in the devotional genre is Aazha Kadalil - Amma Paamaalai

Track 5 - Aattakkari Maman Ponnu - M.M.Manasi has done a fabulous job, her voice works beautifully for this magical tune (though some words slip out without clear diction, thats ok!)...Just like the Hero Intro Theme, this song is also set in Sindhu Bhairavi | S R2 G2 M1 G2 P D1 N2 S | N2 D1 P M1 G2 R1 S N2 S...But the R1 is dominant almost 100% of the melody, with no showing of R2...The charanams are just out of the world !!

Track 6 - * Thaarai Thappattai Theme - இது climax மியூசிக் ...Like many have said in many forums already -- this is SYMPHONY in TAMIL Folk base.....சும்மாவே பாலா மிரட்டுவாரு ...இதுல ராசா வேற ருத்ர தாண்டவம் !! நாடி நரம்பு ரத்தம் சதை எல்லாம் இசை ஊறின ஒருத்தரால தான் இது முடியும் ...:-) கலி யுகம் அழியும் போது இந்த bgm use பண்ணலாம்...:-) சின்ன பசங்களா ....கொஞ்சம் தூரமா ஓரமா போய் விளையாடுங்க ....எங்கள் இசையாகிய ஈசன் கொஞ்சம் கோபமா இருக்கார் !!

Any pointers to buy TharaThappattai @ US

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Any pointers to buy TharaThappattai @ US

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If you are into the Mac/iOS ecosystem, the entire album is avail in iTunes for $5.99

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