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jaiganes: That was introduced in 1954 in Madras state by Rajaji and met with very strong opposition and statewide agitation. Rajaji had to resign because of that. The scheme was for the children to attend school half a day and practice/learn the trades of their parents for half a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Happenned to get this mail ;-) On the lighter side !
ET has opened a debate on “Is it right to go against job quotas ?"
As expected most of the posts agree
here is someone who put his pt in a v diff way.. :))
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I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let's start the reservation with our cricket team. We should have 10 percent reservation for muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by a OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century.
We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player. Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal.
Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.
There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and
politicians (that can really help the country.. )
Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country..)
Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward...
Let's show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud of being an INDIAN..
Well, although he is a bit blunt and harsh in his views Bingle...it's quite humourous. :lol2:
The Main Point Being....Reservation has been offered for 50 years, now it's time to give EQUAL OPPURTUNITIES to everyone, based on Merit.
My Opinion is that however, that Reservations should exist, but should be used as a tool to help the ECONOMICALLY lower portions of Indian Society, regardless of their caste, rather than just bringing another form of the Caste System into Modern India, :) and even worse, claiming that India is liberated from the Caste System while doing it. :lol:
Nice one BG. But unfortunately I have met a lot of people who sincerely believe it to be true missing the point about reservations completely :-(
That was the infamous "Kulak kalvi thittam". That failed because even if one wants to be a collector, he has to learn pot making if his father is a potter. What I am telling is that the potter, if he finds that there is nobody after him doing a traditional art or craft, shall be helped by the government to pass on the craft to someone else who is interested, not compulsorily to his son or daughter. I guess there is a subtle difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajraj
"paanai seyya padiththu paisaavai eNNappOkiRaayaa, computer kalvi padiththu paNaththil puraLap pOkiRaayaa?" enRu kEttaal enna bathil varum?
Subtlety?Huh!
PP madam!
The earlier Kulak kalvi thittam encouraged the Son/daughter to learn what his/her parents did, however what I am saying is the motive behind that was genuine, so keep it, just remove the forced learning angle
I'am for reservation based on Caste system, legitemate people who were supressed all these years should be given reservation. 50 years of caste reservation would not be a measure to remove reservation, take a census and find how many people are still backward educationally in this communitity and extend the reservation for them.
many people would second me when I tell reservation in education, but reservation in jobs many people will not accept it to me. There was this discussion in Karnataka, and one person asked Narayan Murthy Infosys chief, knowing the socio, political setup of our country and if you are not for reservation in your company for the socially deprived group, then what is the difference between you owing a company here/ Bill gates owning a company here. Which means to tell that apart from money making we also have some moral responsibility towards the society we live in, eradicating the social illness we have been facing and bring all the people on par.
I think for people who are not for reservation, for whom quality is the only thing, then why did we drove out English from India??? why can't we have England Parties as the political parties competing paralley with out Indian parties. I think the English party(s) will perfom well if people think Quality is what we need in governance. India had better governance under British than what we have today.
The rights which we got from British need to be passed on to the people who are socially and politically deprived for it is their right that we got from the British.
According to me India is going no where with Reservation. It will result in bright minds of India leaving India. Consider my case as an example, I am from a state where there is only 1 government Engineering college. To find a seat in that college i should be ranked among top 100s of my state. But consider the case of a person who has got this seat based on reservation with ranking much over 1000. That guy wont know the value of this college. Also if there had been no reservation i would have got the seat with just ranking among top 400s. But because of this government policies i had to work very hard to find a seat. I dont want the same to happen to my son. I dont want him to struggle the same way as i did. I would like to get out of this country and dont want my son to be the citizen of this country.
Then we discussing about reservation wont do any good for our contry. If reservations have to be removed then people like Chappani, who cast their votes based on caste and parties encouraging reservations have to stop. They have to understand that they cannot keep enjoying this stupid government policies not worrying about the poor people of their own caste who have been prevented from using this reservation system because of wellsettled people of the samecaste still not ready to give up.
I would like to point out one thing have there been any case where a person from a SC /ST caste who has got a collector job (or any equivalent job) just because of his birth has ever said that he no longer needs reservation and would allow his sons and daughters to compete in merit basis. No this has never happened because that is the mentality of the Indians all are selfish they wont even worry about the poor people from the same caste.
sreeramtcs,
you are mistaken, I personally don't enjoy the case reservation.
I air my views as an independent observer.