raja_fan ,
May be . But they eill ensure good marketing of the movie !
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raja_fan ,
May be . But they eill ensure good marketing of the movie !
Guys..just take it easy..Forget IR for a while, I can give you 10CDs full of Grammy winning songs and one single 'engE nimmadhi angE enakkOr idam vEndum' and I am pretty sure you will take engE nimmadhi any time !! I hope you do get my point.
so as raja_fan mentions international labels/awards does not matter at all..atleast to me. I have spent so much money on my music system ..all to listen to IR primarily. I am in no rush to go buy the Golden globe winning Slumdog Millionaire soundtrack..but would like to get my hands on Nandhala. ARR is a great music composer, good luck and all the best to him. But except for a few songs, he does not cut it for me. Whatever be IR's personality, I am drawn to his music.
For those who think he lacks 'aggressiveness' now you are mistaken. He is the most aggressive guy I have ever seen in TN public life. He aggressively pursues the truth behind music, kalaignar really did a great job in naming him 'isaignani'. That is why he says for him music is not a profession, it is his life. It is like breathing for him. Yeah, it is not recorded well....no cool sounds ..or new genres mixed in ..but another truth of the cosmos is explored in the next song.
Whatever it is IR still has chances to get global recognition. I am thinking what would have been happened in 80s if 1) that time there was internet 2) he was concentrated in Hindi instead of kannada telugu, malayalam industry 3) he had much more awareness in sound technology 4) the world had shrinked like now with mobile, e-community etc.
Definitely he could have won so many awards including whatever academy, grammy, etc. The same can be applied for MSV too.
Feel very proud of tamil film musicians over the decades.
and finally read the first sentance again/
kiru,
You have reflected my sentiments. Fully agree with you. Especially about something IR's music drawing us in.
I listened to Slumdog's tracks but honestly it was not too impressive. That doesn't matter. What Rahman achieved is praiseworthy and his chances of an Oscar is bright. Best wishes to him and I will applaud if he gets an Oscar.
Illayaraja is more closer to many Indian musicians, film and classical, who did not feel the need for 'global' recognition. What finally matters is how much joy the music of certain MD gives you and no one has given me as much joy in film music as Illayaraja has.
Music which is rooted doesn't cross boundaries easily. Forget 'global' reach but do you think 'Nandalala's' music will work in Hindi? I am sure it will not but I am very happy that Raja has given me these tunes. I had once written in my blog on whether music is an universal language as claimed by many. You can read it at http://sureshs65music.blogspot.com/2...-language.html
Not sure if everyone will agree with me as my argument runs counter to popular thought.
S.Suresh
I am really surprised to see the recognition talk is still going on in this thread. Our IR is the only person who can serve us FULL MEALS. அறு சுவை உணவு. I don't know whether we will be discussing here about IR after 30 years since his first album if he were serving PASTA AND PIZZA.
IR வேடம் போடுவாரா என எனக்கு தெரியாது.
The talk is not about recognition, or Pastas or Pizzas but about FULL MEALS only. Some of the best cooked Meals have not been properly stored in 'Good Jars' for our consumption. and More importantly, what we are getting now-a-days are only Plate-meals or Single-meals...but not exotic Full-Meals Buffet, as the master chef is capable of. :)
oh yeah! as a sincere HCRIF who breathes IR's music, I pursue the truth behind IR choice of collaborations with the likes of Fr.Jegath, and his choice of not releasing the OSTs of Hey Ram and Lajja!Quote:
Originally Posted by kiru
I think I have a right to it!
besides, howsoever it might be difficult to be objective about something like music, if I were to look at IR's choice of doing things such as production values, labels etc, none of it makes sense!
strictly speaking, a work like TiS for its grandeur and uniqueness, ought to be having its score sheets available in music libraries, and the music ought to have been discussed in ethnomusicology forums in a big way! has it happened ? no
why is this man underutilising his potential by wasting his efforts ??
he is immensely capable of doing n no of albums like TiS - but if he does have such aspirations, he must understand tat time is running out!
btw, i listened to Poongatru (moondram pirai) on my system last night - that was in 1981, and the sound quality is out-of-this world with the 'think-thunk' table sound in the first interlude and the bass guitar lines so clearly discernible and refined giving an amazing aural experience! and this is 2009! how come someone managed to de-evolve the standards, instead of steadily progressing!
கிரு
உங்களின் கூற்று மிகவும் சரியானது. இளையராஜாவின் இசை நமக்குள் எழுப்பும் ரீங்காரத்தை இசையை ஆன்மாவுடன் தைத்துக்கொண்ட கலைஞர்களால்தான் உருவாக்கமுடியும்.தவிர, ஒரு கலைமனத்தின் வேட்கைகளை எந்த விருதாலும் தீர்த்துவிடமுடியாது. அதேபோல ஒரு கலை மனதின் காரியங்களையும் எளிதில் விளக்கிவிட முடியாது. ஏன் அவராலேயே தன்னுடையத் தேர்வுகளை எளிதில் நியாயப்படுத்தவும் முடியாது நிராகரிக்கவும் முடியாது. உள்ளுணர்வு சுண்டி எறியும் நாணயம்தான் அது.
இரண்டு நாட்கள் முன்பு slumdog millionaire பார்த்தேன்.மிகவும் சாதாரணமான படம்!
Wf.
Original video of IR's live concert in Italy is available in this site. A small sample piece is available here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOwhAO8Qpe8
Dear Vibrations of IlaiyaRaaja,
Kindly the get the Original Video from "The Best Audio", Chennai. Contact No: 42123464 (Chennai, India)
With love & peace,
Akbar