Picks Feb 05

I am now hearing 'Thaaye Shankari'. The first raaga is definitely Sudhasaveri. With an overall attractive scale, Sudhasaveri raagam when played usually enchants, and here is no exception. At first I thought that the first Sudhasaveri based film song ever in TFM was 'Koyil Maniyosai Kettathaaro', so this song came as a pleasant surprise. I couldn't say for sure what the second raaga sounds like Saalaga Bhairavi. The third raaga sounds like Hamsanaadham. Super.

I am now hearing 'Thaaye Shankari'. The first raaga is definitely Sudhasaveri. With an overall attractive scale, Sudhasaveri raagam when played usually enchants, and here is no exception. At first I thought that the first Sudhasaveri based film song ever in TFM was 'Koyil Maniyosai Kettathaaro', so this song came as a pleasant surprise. I couldn't say for sure what the second raaga sounds like Saalaga Bhairavi. The third raaga sounds like Hamsanaadham. Super. [/quote]

Sorry. Typo. I meant to say, I couldn't say for sure but the second raaga sounds like Saalaga Bhairavi.

Nitya, have you heard 'raajan maharaajan' from the same film (shyamala). Great one. Once you've heard the MKT generation, I hope you won't claim IR was the one to introduce 'this and that' raga in TFM (barring a few). :)

Jayabharathi did Kudisai and Marupakkam(NA for Sivakumar or the movie itself)

ithukku peyar thaan paadavathi :) I have never listened this before.

Doesn't it sound close to some other song? I can't recollect, I'm loosing my memory due to to nature of work :)

No, FM. For your standards, this is a reasonably popular one.. :D

BTW, I hear some strange sounds in the song.. Maybe Ramki can throw some light? ;)

Today is VD, So Ramki might be .......... :)

BTW, RR what are you doing at this time :roll:

RR bg noises are part of the 'package' :)

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http://tfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl...ngs/kala_mm.rm

Song: kala mangaiyo
Film: Maaya Mani
Singer: PBSrinivas
Lyrics: Kannadasan?
Music : Laxmikant pyarelal

Thanks to NOV for sharing the movie details
http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewlite.php?t=1560

Oli played this song couple of weeks ago. I was asking around and JN had this song with her. Thanks to JN now i have a copy of this gem with me :)

Details on Paras Mani(oringial of MM)

http://www.rajshri.com/parasmani.html
http://www.ultraindia.com/movies/fil...1&na=PARASMANI

Looks like Geethanjali seen in great songs like 'ninaithaal podhum paaduven' ,'kannan maNanilaiyai' etc is the heroine of this film.
Im not sure if MM was a remake or dubbing verison of PM.
Knowledgable people can ofcourse,always share the details with rest of us.
Madhu do you know other songs from this film other than the 2 listed in 'unearthing' thread?

Ramki:) No problem.
PBS appadiye layichi paadirukkaar:)

Ramki
a forgotten gem by PBS.
Mayamani is the dubbed version of Parasmani.
These are the details of Parasmani (Hindi) 1963.

Replete with dance, music and special effects, heavily inspired by the Arabian Nights, this black and white fantasy-film is notable for being Laxmikant - Pyarelal’s debut film. The movie stars Manohar Desai and Nalini Chonkar. Many thrilling adventures fill this saga of a noble youth, who was abandoned by his father in childhood. He grows up and wins the love of a beautiful princess. The only condition to his marrying her is that he has to bring back the legendary Parasmani diamond, which belongs to an evil witch-queen. Great soundtrack includes ‘Uyi Ma Uyi Ma Ye Kya Hogaya’, ‘Hasta Hua Noorani Chehra’, ‘Vo Jab Yaad Aaye’ and ‘Roshan Tumhi Se Duniya’.

starring Manohar Desai, Nalini Chonkar,Geetanjali,Ajit Soni.
Story by Vishwanath pande
Cinematography:Peter pereira
Lyrics:Asid bhopali
MD:lashmikant pyarelal.

Songs:
Chori Chori Jo Tumse Mili To Log Kya
Hanstha Huva Noorani Chehra Kali Julphen
Mere Dil Me Halki Si Vo Kalish Hai
Roshan Tumhi Se Duniya Raunak
Uyi Ma Uyi Ma Ye Kya Ho Gaya Unki Gali
Vo Jab Yaad Aaye Bahuth Yaad Aaye

Laxmikant and Pyarelal got an opportunity for the first time to give music independently in the film Parasmani directed by Babubhai Mistry in 1963. Though technically they had given music to 5 films before Parasmani, all these 5 films either got shelved or were never released in theaters! This was because all the 5 were B-graders and had tendencies to run into financial and post-production problems. Since the earlier films were never released, LP faced a lot of flak from within the industry. Certain directors and well known lyricists were not ready to work with them at that time. LP though unhappy about it were undeterred by the same. Music was not compromised on at any cost! On the contrary, it is a well established fact that in spite of the films' financial constraints, LP at their own expense got their tunes sung only from the best( Grade 1 singers).

LP records stated the music director's name as Laxmikant-Pyarelal mistook by many at that time to be a single person.

The rhythmic music given by LP for Babubhai Mistry's B-Grader mythological film Parasmani became immensely popular. Songs like Hastaa Hua Nurani Chehera, Wo Jab Yaad Aaye, Mere Dil Mein Halki Si from this film are hummed by people 40 years later even to this day.

It was the film Parasmani that gave them their first brake in 1963. The Lata Mangeshkar-Kamal Barot duet 'Hansta hua noorani chehra' remained steadfast at the no.1 position of Binaca Geet Mala for weeks. It was the beginning of duo's long-lasting and extremely rewarding association with Lata Mangeshkar.

Here is a link for Parasmani songs
http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/H000581.html

Sathyakabali,
Thanks for all the details

HI !

"uyi ma uyi ma kya ho gaya" is "kaviri karaiyin thottathilae" in tamil.
But I dont think it is in Mayamani.

Ramki,sathyakabali: is it possible to get the tamil version of 'woh jab yaad aaye' (my favorite in this album)?

madhu, musicindiaonline also has that song: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/17/m/producer.835/
But no idea about tamil version.

Incidentally you can also listen to 'salamat raho' - kalaa mangaiyo original, here. Interesting to compare.. Both shine in their own light.

SK

Digression
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Thanks for the Parasmani details. I believe they received their first film fare award (which meant a lot those days, I think -- this is from what I used to overhear from my older brothers and uncles)

In spite of the Burman wave, LP were able to position themselves well thanks to their strength in classical tunes and folk music. Though not my favorites, still they have given wonderful music in Sargam, Hero, AAA, Daag and Budda Mil Gaya and ofcourse their first-best Parasmani and spanned for more than 3 decades. I believed they followed SJ style of orchestration and tune makeing. In the later years there was more trash than good music, with Tezaab and the Rekha-starrer (produced by Shammi) being exceptions

Thanks to sk once again

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Ramki & JN, thanks for the lovely song.
aahhh. such nostalgic memories .... when radio 6 went on air from 5.30 am to 6.15 am only and then later again in the afternoon and night, sharing the airwaves with Chinese station.

can u imagine this song n the early hours?!

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http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/maal_vov.rm

Song: maalaiyile therkku moolaiyile
Film: vaasalil oru vennilaa
Singers: SPB,Chitra
Lyrics: Vaali
Music : Deva

In vividhbharathis 'sirappu thenkinnam' SPB mentioned that today's pick is one of his 2 favorite songs in Devas music(Other being 'kaakai siraginile' from purusha lakshanam).
This song was popular when the film was released. I remember listening to it for several weeks in Madras A's 'putham pudhu paadalgaL'(sunday 4pm).
'Vaasalil oru vennilaa' was Amala's last tamil film. NizhalgaL Ravi(or Raja?) and Baby shaamilee are other actors.
Other good songs from this film
'raaja magaL indha chinnaraani thaan'(SJ for shaamilee) and
'en ooru madhure pakkam'(KJY)

Thread on Deva
http://tfmpage.com/forum/15194.9416.17:52:40.html

Ramki

Even legends have poor tates some times. SPb's liking of the song just proves that.

After listening to this song a couple of times, I cannot appreciate one single thing in this song. SOrry, that is not absolutely correct as SPb's voice is as sweet as they are in his best songs..

Just an amalgam of so many IR's 80s songs.

Sj's song 'Raaja Magal' IMHO is a far better song

Bala

Balaji
I'm sorry you didnt like the song . IMO this song is not at all bad.
I dont see resemblance to any IR song. Could you tell me which IR song(s) you were referring to?

Ramki, I am still lost in kalaa mangaiyooo.... have looped the song and listening continuously. thanks thanks thanks... oops. must stop looping. :D

sigh. if only I could save this song to listen offline...

Ramki

Please forgive my comment earlier.

I really appreciate the service you are doing and request you to continue your sevice in uploading rare songs..

Anyways, I am unable to pinpoint any one song, Just seems to me as a mix of many songs. This is purely IMHO..

Thanks and please do continue. I was just suprised that SPB would have singled out this song.

Thanks
Bala

Metoo thiks this is above avg stuff from Deva. I like it better than the solayamma song.

Balaji , you just stated your opinion ..no need for apologies for voicing your views. In fact such arguments makes this thread more interesting.

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http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/solla_nv.rm

Song: solladaa vai thirandhu
Film: neela vaanam
Singer: PSuseela
Lyrics: Kannadasan
Music : MSV

This is a kaNNadasan-MSV-PS delite. I have not seen this film but have heard a lot of good things .
'neelavaanam' had sivaji,devika,rajshree etc .
Screenplay was by KBalachander.
PMadhavan was the director.

I remember 4 more songs
'oh little flower'(TMS)
'oh lakshmi oh sheela'(LRE)
'oho odum eNNangaLe'(PS)
and a LRE-PS duet(vaLaikappu song).

PPP describes the song situation:(you need murasu)
http://tfmpage.com/ppp/solladaa.html

Discussion on Kannadasan piLLai paadalgaL
http://tfmpage.com/forum/14114.2349.14:00:38.html

Hi !

beautiful song ! happy and sorrow.. mixed in one !

yes! there is a PBS,LRE song "mangala mangaiyum maappiLLaiyum andru kaigaL kalandhaada" !!

Devika will hold a baby doll and sing this song which supposed to evoke sympathy.

I used to sing this song to the delight of my audience:)

Oh little flower
See your lover
See your kannil-vandhu-pattu-kondu-sikki-konda-lover!

Ramki, is the valaikaappu song mangala mangaiyum?

The ohoho... Odum mEgangalE song is simply marvelous as it makes one feel like he has grown wings and is flying above the earth.

PS PS thaan!

A beautiful song by PS.

Appa thaimai unarvai Devika thirayilum, PS thiraikku pinnalum arumaiyaga kondu vanthiruppargal

Nice song!!

Oh ho ho Odum ennanagale is yet another master piece by MSV-KD-PS

Excellent Song, Ramki!

There are numerous PS/MSV lullabies, each one a gem in its own kind. This is a good one too

Thanks Ramki. Some years ago you had listed your favorite PS solos. I am searching for it. If possible can you please provide the link..

Thanks
Bala

Madhu, NOV thanks.

Balaji Im not sure which list you are talking about(you know we just did 'listing' in the earlier days and nothing else:))

Here's one thread

http://tfmpage.com/forum/10981.21:52:12.html

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http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/vaan_dk.rm

Song: vaanam niram maarum
Film: dhaavani kanavugaL
Singers: SJanaki, SPB
Lyrics: Vairamuthu
Music : iLaiyaraja

This is one good song that didn't get much air time on the radio.
classical raaga thread states this song is based on Hamsanandhi raagam. I remember 2 more songs from DK
'sengamalam sirikkidhu'(SPB,SJ),
'oru naayagan udhayamaagiraan'(SPB,SPS).
Im not going to list the actors list as im sure most of you are aware of the details. I have not watched this film, will appreciate if someonce could share the storyline and the song sequence with rest of us.

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Originally Posted by Ramki

Balaji Im not sure which list you are talking about(you know we just did 'listing' in the earlier days and nothing else:))

Here's one thread

http://tfmpage.com/forum/10981.21:52:12.html

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OR is it this thread p susheela solos http://tfmpage.com/forum/14753.04:45:24.html

Thanks Ramki. I remember one listed on PS lullabies..

Thanks Thenraja for the solos list.

MSV/PS solos are a treat always. The last best from this duo is 'Nilave Malare' (title song). Always something special about this combo.

Thanks
Bala

Ramki, the story outline you may know already. Bagyaraj - an unemployed - & his sisters are a struggling lower middle class family. Sivaji - a military man - is like a godfather & moral support for them. He helps bagyaraj go to Madras. There radhika helps him, and after a prayer by sivaji (an atheist) at the townside (inge camera, editing, BGM-ai gavanikkanum), bagyaraj gets recognized by bharathiraja and makes it big in film industry.. He returns and arranges rich grooms for his sisters, but after dowry sentiments & dialogues.. sisters decide to marry the poor guys (one is Parthiban)... Appuram ellaam subham..
This sounds stale and uninteresting, but Bagyaraj's direction, his unique style and dialogues make it worth a watch.. I think this is his own production, that's probably how roped in sivaji & BR for cameos..

In the first part of movie, Ilavarasi is a 'ethir veettu ponnu' who has a crush on Bagyaraj and also helps him with food & sundries.. (padathula ellorukkum dhaaraala manasu..!) The POW song is a dream sequence for her..

Thanks RR. I didnt know iLavarasi acted in this film.

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http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/ulag_tr.rm

Song: ulagellaam undharuLaal
Film: Thenali Raaman
Singer: PLeela
Lyrics: ?
Music : Viswanathan Ramamurthy

This is another wonderful song i discovered couple of months ago. PLeela(i think its her)has sung very well(as she always does with devotional kinda songs).
I think Sivaji and Banumathy acted in this film. I have no clue of other songs or cast members.
This song reminds me of 'sidhamellaam enakku sivamayame'- same raaga maybe?

'sithamellam' is a pure Sindhu Bairavi.. I think the POW song too is..

Thanks RR.

I think 'vaanam niram maarum' is not Hamsanandhi. There's usage of P & D1. It must be Pantuvarali family.

Ramki, did you notice the similarity with 'vandhanam en vandhanm' (vaazhve maayam)? Pay specific attention to the carnatic style flute&mridangam section in the later of part first interlude..

BTW, the iLavarasi role was unnecessary except for thinuchufying one pullarikkum dialogue (and this song).. At one point, iLavarasi's dad invites Bagya and asks if he really wants to marry her (Bagya family is struggling then). He kind of insults him whether he'll really be able to marry his sisters and bargains with him to be a veettoda maappillai. Bagya gives up and readies to leave.. Appadiye thirumbi iLavarasiyaa paarthu,

"Mannichudummma, ennai vittaa unakku vere nalla purushan kidaippaan, but
en thangachingalukku ennai vittaa vera annan kidaikka maattaanmaa.."

RR ,when i searched for this song most of the threads say its hamsanandhi
http://tfmpage.com/ci/ci10.html
http://tfmpage.com/forum/17874.ros.html

But you know more about raagas than me :))

I'm not a big fan of bhakyaraj, so this is not surprising to me :)