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24th March 2006, 12:36 AM
gorgeous gaayini

i have never been through to say... :cry:
:lol:
but seen many cases which has only LOVE.

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

So nobody agrees love can exist with the concern person IWTHOUT LUST>????????????
24th March 2006, 12:38 AM
gorgeous gaayini

My old crush....i liked him before seeing his face....and once i saw it...i thought..OMG what an ugly dude! but still i liked him. crush is not always lust :roll:

but now i'm laughing at myself for liking him... :lol: ...i dont know why... :lol:

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Originally Posted by ssanjinika

what is a momentary crush lamby??
Just a pure affection for another person..without any thought of spending time with that person?U mean to tell me that when ur infatuated with a person u dont give anythot to spending the rest of ur life with that person? And if u do ..what do u propose to be doing for the rest of ur life with that person?Initial Attraction based on sight is a form of physical attraction rite?Neways a crush cannot be classified as love rite?
24th March 2006, 10:10 AM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by ssanjinika

my 2 cents..:)

of course love can exist without lust..that is the love u have for ur parents,siblings,friends etc...but love for a person's bf,gf,husband,wife,partner has to have some lust thrown in.

But SJ, We are not discussing about Love (Anbu).. but Love(Kaadhal). I do agree with you points. Infact, you are bang on target :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by ssanjinika

They can be as old 80 and still feel that elusive emotion.IMO lust is any need to touch another person.It def could be just the holding of hands or an arm around the shoulder.This feeling is special to couples.One usually does not do that to ur parents or siblings.Its reserved to that one special person in your life.I think that is lust too in a way.I also think this lust is what differenciates all other relationships from that of a husband and wife/gf and bf/partners :).

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24th March 2006, 10:17 AM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by alwarpet_andavan

Love might initially appear to be without lust. However, nature (biology) has different plans. Lust is dormant in the cases where love appears to be without lust, just waiting to surface given the right stimuli, environment and mindset. At a subconscious level, lust is always there. Both are different, but while lust can obviously exist without love, in the case of love, (the repressed) lust eventually catches up.

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24th March 2006, 10:23 AM
Sanguine Sridhar

Check it how is this...

"Love without lust is waste
Lust without love is taste "
:roll:
24th March 2006, 10:57 AM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar

Check it how is this...

"Love without lust is waste
Lust without love is taste "
:roll:

Is it ur own phrase? :lol:

Both the lines are contradictory in their own way :lol:
24th March 2006, 11:03 AM
bingleguy

NO Selva .....wat way do u say they are contrdictory ?
24th March 2006, 11:09 AM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by bingleguy

NO Selva .....wat way do u say they are contrdictory ?

Love without lust ===> Love alone ==> Love is waste

Lust without love ==> Lust alone ==> Lust is taste.

This is what he meant. Hope u get it. :D
24th March 2006, 11:13 AM
bingleguy

:clap: :clap: Got that :)
point taken ;-)
24th March 2006, 11:15 AM
bingleguy

Probably he meant in another way ;-) saying Without Lust Love is waste and without love, lust is just taste ....

This stands as the corrrect meaning of the sentence ... but i appreciate ur reading between the lines selva ;-) Good goin !
24th March 2006, 11:38 AM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by bingleguy

Probably he meant in another way ;-) saying Without Lust Love is waste and without love, lust is just taste ....

This stands as the corrrect meaning of the sentence ... but i appreciate ur reading between the lines selva ;-) Good goin !

:notworthy: :D
24th March 2006, 11:41 AM
Raikkonen

Love leads to lust
24th March 2006, 03:18 PM
Shakthiprabha.

I guess as usual, I am alone in this argument too.

:|
24th March 2006, 03:36 PM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

I guess as usual, I am alone in this argument too.

:|

:roll:

What happened shakthi? Seems you are expecting someone to answer :?

I think Chappani was there.. :?:
24th March 2006, 04:15 PM
Shakthiprabha.

hmm...

chappani also agreed that LUST is underlying. (I suppose)

*******

I did not expect anyone to answer.

I was just wondering if ppl can see, THERE CAN BE LOFTY ULTIMATE LOVE, which scores ABSOLUTE ZERO in lust or physical urge to seek pleasure.
24th March 2006, 05:15 PM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by ShaktiPrabha

I was just wondering if ppl can see, THERE CAN BE LOFTY ULTIMATE LOVE, which scores ABSOLUTE ZERO in lust or physical urge to seek pleasure.

Such a love(anbu) can be possible with father, brother etc.

Just how like how A_A mentioned, Love(Kaathal) might appear to be alone. But there will be lust working in the background.

This is the truth.. (practically).
24th March 2006, 05:22 PM
Shakthiprabha.

:|

Working in the background?

I think LUST, if present, is too powerful THAT IT DOES NOT STAY IN BACKGROUND.

It gushes out with full force and establishes its prescence.

Nature of LUST I suppose is WILD AND RAW.
Nature of LOVE is polished and refined.

So, lust I SUPPOSE cannot be hidden in background.
24th March 2006, 05:58 PM
selvakumar

You are talking about the higher version of lust SP.

Anyhow, love and lust work together. IMHO, both are required for happy life. :D (previous discussions)
24th March 2006, 06:24 PM
pavalamani pragasam

Love enum kaattaaRRu veLLaththai love enum iru karaikaLukkuL odukki Oda seyyaththaan kalyaaNam enRa oru naakareekaththai thORRuviththaarkaL!
24th March 2006, 08:07 PM
Sinthiya

Quote:

Originally Posted by selvakumar

Love without lust ===> Love alone ==> Love is waste
Lust without love ==> Lust alone ==> Lust is taste.

good thinking, selva....i didn't see it this way at all...

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Anyhow, love and lust work together. IMHO, both are required for happy life.

exactly

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Originally Posted by SP

I was just wondering if ppl can see, THERE CAN BE LOFTY ULTIMATE LOVE, which scores ABSOLUTE ZERO in lust or physical urge to seek pleasure.

SP :), I can see where you're coming from...but we're talking about the the love between husband & wife, boy friend & girl friend, partners (not the the love you have for family and friends). You honestly believe there is absolutely zero lust between them? I don't think so...Lust isn't everything in ultimate love, but it's still an important part of love. We don't realize it, but it there.

just my thoughts....pls don't take any offence.... :)
24th March 2006, 08:33 PM
Shakthiprabha.

sinthiya,

I dont believe every pair can have it.
I wish to state, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY of JUST LOVE with no LUST. :) (May be a rarity, yet it does exist). Yeah ofcourse I am talkin bout wife/hus relationship only.

////////I can see where you're coming from.../////////

U lost me here :? come again plz.
24th March 2006, 08:39 PM
ssanjinika

SP,I disagree with u when u say lust is such a strong emotion that it does not stay in the background.I think it can.Any pair romantically involved (Lamby,GG pls note:I stress..pair and romantically involved here :P) has lust in the background.Whether they act upon it or not is anyones guess.If there is no lust in the background ,then I would think that theres something seriously wrong with them.
Refer to chappani's first post,he said that his friend refused to act upon his feelings bcoz his wife was not able to(she was physically not fit).Nowhere does it say that he(chappani's friend) didnt have those feelings.I dont think its in human nature.IMO a healthy dose of lust makes a relationship more strong and fun :).
24th March 2006, 08:42 PM
Sanguine Sridhar

I am not very sure what is there in this topic?

In the age lesser than 16 You never know what is lust or love rather you have some curiosity to know about that.

In the age from 16 to 20 you know what is love(Including Infactuations) and lust, but which one exceeds? it depends from person to person.A bunch of people will have interest on love and a set will have interest on the lust.It depends on the persons individual brought up and environment.

In the age range from 20 to 40 .. You marry somebody and you definitely need lust to increase your generation but You will love your partner also(Illana veetula saapadu kedaikuma :roll: )..Infact both lust and love will be weighed equally in this period.

Above 40... Love wins lust by a big margin.That is the pure love.25 to 30 years of married life ..lived a complete life..Shared everything..And definitely Love leads lust here...

So age is the biggest factor..It is the one which descides whether you prefer Love or Lust.So according to my view Lust might lead Love before your marriage....Again this is applicable if you are a normal human being :lol2:
24th March 2006, 08:45 PM
Shakthiprabha.

I WISH TO WITHDRAW from this argument ATLEAST temporarily.

NO OFFENSE please :)

carry on all.
24th March 2006, 10:35 PM
Sinthiya

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

sinthiya,
I dont believe every pair can have it.
I wish to state, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY of JUST LOVE with no LUST. :) (May be a rarity, yet it does exist). Yeah ofcourse I am talkin bout wife/hus relationship only.

ok...maybe...rare situations...i understand....
even then, i think there is a little bit of lust...that's just me....

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

////////I can see where you're coming from.../////////
U lost me here :? come again plz.

i'm sorry for the confusion...that's my slang for 'i understand what you're saying'....that's all....

:)
25th March 2006, 01:44 PM
Shakthiprabha.

:D kewl sinthiya.

I actually feel stranded and quite lost as to how to argue with so many of u.

May be u all have a point. (u talk bout 99 percent of cases)

May be I have a point too (I talk about the rarest 1 percent case)

:)

yet, majority wins.

so cheers to all of you. :)
25th March 2006, 01:56 PM
Lambretta

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssanjinika

IMO a healthy dose of lust makes a relationship more strong and fun :).

U may be rite.....but only upto a certain period & in certain quantities......u've got to know wher to draw the line! :)
Jus like a healthy dose of spice makes the dish more tasty & exciting but mus be cautious abt how to add & at wat point while cooking the dish.....adding too much or at the wrong time of cooking wud make the dish itself unfit for eating! And u surely cant substitute the spice as the salt of the dish at ne time!
Besides, IMO even otherwise u cud always manage having the dish minus the spice if the latter is unavailable for sum reason......?
Phew....best eg. I cud think of! :P :D
25th March 2006, 06:43 PM
ssanjinika

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambretta

U may be rite.....but only upto a certain period & in certain quantities......u've got to know wher to draw the line! :)

U got that rite Lamby!
Anything in moderation :).Alavukku meeriNal amirthamum vishyam aagum!
26th March 2006, 03:07 PM
Sanguine Sridhar

Today no updation in this topic...??? Very Strange!
26th March 2006, 05:15 PM
selvakumar

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Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar

Today no updation in this topic...??? Very Strange!

UPdation:

We have won the battle :lol2:
27th March 2006, 02:43 AM
kb

LOVE IS FELT WHEN LUST IS NOT POSSIBLE both b4 marraige and after 40's
27th March 2006, 02:58 PM
Shakthiprabha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by selvakumar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar

Today no updation in this topic...??? Very Strange!

UPdation:

We have won the battle :lol2:

:roll: :shock: :evil: :oops: :( :cry: :hammer:
27th March 2006, 05:00 PM
selvakumar

SP,
:lol:

Summa just for fun (for sridhar)

:D
27th March 2006, 05:45 PM
bingleguy

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
27th March 2006, 07:48 PM
Shakthiprabha.

vasanth,

whats so funny :P :twisted:
3rd May 2006, 04:56 PM
Chappani

This is a nice article very relevant to this topic,
it gives a new insight in the way the people of the the two sexes see sex and love.

http://in.rediff.com/getahead/2005/jul/25rashmi.htm
3rd May 2006, 05:00 PM
bingleguy

Welcome Chappani ... u reopend a great thread !
3rd May 2006, 07:30 PM
Chappani

I sense its a sarcastic compliment, thanks anyway :) .
Please take forward this thread from here... Thanks
3rd May 2006, 07:34 PM
great

That was not scarcastic comment Mr.Kamal(16 vayathunilae)

btwn what happend to the avtaar you use to sport
8th May 2006, 03:26 PM
Agni

Lust.

have u seen one old tamil movie(sorry i forgot the tiltle),in that the hero is very excitement in his marriage,he was waiting for that for long long days,finally he got married.

after finished the usual programs.he was waiting in bed room for his girl.

she came there, he was in excitemnt,
she kept closely 50 paise coin in her palm and asked him wats there inside, he told no of answers all going wrong, finally she showed.he shocked

50 paisa coinaaaaaaaa ??? :evil: :evil:

then she explained this is wat Lust, you are expecting lot but nothing is there......

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