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sariya theriyalinga. Remo and Anniyan were bozos anyway, but I thought he overdid Ambi too quite a bit. Here I was talking specifically about that police station scene where he's supposed to be switching between different personae.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
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Originally Posted by equanimus
Only thing more annoying than the performance is Anniyan is the fact that it is often brought up as an example of good acting.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
On a side note, if Remo sounded like wannabe-cool rather than real-cool, then does that not validate that performance? Look at it this way - Remo is just Ambi-redux, and Ambi there is in his second personality is merely trying to ape the cool dudes he has observed who the heroine digs; in other words, Remo is infact wannabe-cool by character design. Appo why fret about the Remo role saying he played it like wannabe-cool rather than real-cool? I think he was spot-on there, though I realise it may have been unintentional but I dont want to rule out the possibility that that was intentional.
Anniyan - the character is a wash out anyway.
Ambi - this is where he annoyed most people I guess. His brahmin tamil didnt wash and he overdid it, but the character is supposed to be annoying and annoy he did, didnt he? Again, intentional-a unintentional-a-nu dhaan theriyalai.
( One scene I thought went well was when he performs that proud walk when Vivek reads out the love letter to Sada. That was spot-on.)
Plum, regarding Remo , I am unwilling to give that much credit to Vikram and Shankar by even considering it could have been intentional. It is a post-fact reasoning you are attempting on something that does NOT deserve that kind of attention :-)
Even the proud-walk was look-I-am-being-funny. I liked him better in some other scenes like the pre-ThiruvayyAru scene at home
Vivek: kaN adi
Vikram: spontaneously slaps his eye (mokkai but it was Vikram's earnestness that works here)
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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
In fact, SPD/MPD itself is given way too much credit and has been abused to death that it deserves an unconditional worldwide ban
Charlie Kaufman: The only idea more overused than serial killers is multiple personality. On top of that, you explore the notion that cop and criminal are really two aspects of the same person. See every cop movie ever made for other examples of this.
Donald Kaufman: Mom called it "psychologically taut".
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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
As such, frankly, despite my not rating Shankar, ahem...vandhu...adhavadhu, I found Anniyan actually tolerable. Adhaan indha post-facto reasoning ellam vandhu tholaikkudhu.
InnonNu, romba periya achievement illainnalum, Anniyan addressed the MPD issue better than Chandramukhi, IMO. Tweedledum-tweedledee dhaan but dum was slightly better than dee. If I am asked to choose one Shankar movie to watch or be shot, I'll choose Anniyan over every other movie of his.
(Maddy vandhuttu, that is the only non-ARR movie of Shankar adhunala dhaan Plum-ku pudichudhunu freudian analysis ellam panna poraar :-D )
Idhu disclaimer-a :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
அண்ணன் அஞ்சாசிங்கம் சங்கம் சார்பாக கண்டனத்தை தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறேன் :xQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
SamoogappadangaL GendilmEn, Indian > Anniyan
Among others..even Jeans with Pirasanth is more entertaining than Anniyan.
jeans? :hammer: (ivlo emotional-a response varudhunna evlo affect aayiruppennu paarunga)
6 Reasons Why Jeans Loses Deposit
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6. Plastic Rai
5. Plastic Rai -2
4. Lakshmi's seshtais
3. Raju Sundaram
2. Nasser (Hamfest)
1. Do I even need to tell this?
I suppose 1 is not what I think :twisted:
1 must be radhika :D
No, not at all. 1 is the most obvious missing factor in the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
SP, radhika is a good guess but I guess that role suits her so she wasnt annoying that much. Prashanth padathula #1 annoying factor vera enna irukka mudiyum?
:D hehe. I knew the answer (what hubbers feel) summa oru scene kku thaan.
I know :) Summa oru paraparappukkaga :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Yeah she can't act. But... heh heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Not that bad. Particularly post return with SV Shekar joining the act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Janaki SabEsh: vyAzhakkizhamai
SVS: RajinikAnthukkA
JS: ...illai...rAghavEndra swAmikku
SVS: reNdum oNNu dhaanE
Lakshmi: aaththA
SVS: pOi vEppilai vaangittu vaa mA
I was recently mentioning to CR that I actually kinda like him in this movieQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
mAdhEsh enga kula saami pEruyyA..orE oru dhadavai sariyA kooppiduyyA
Nasser: Oh thambikku dhaan operation-A ?
RS: No...kAkka mookkA
(Post interval scene)
RS: (to lakshmi) adiyE sathi leelAvathi
RS: naan ippo ball-ayE change paNNittEn (I don't know why I find that funny but I do)
And of course the tonsure scene
RS: idathu pakkam aNNen...valadhu pakkam thambi....lava kusA
Oh ! I actually liked him in this movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Except the pEchiyappan as NAchiyappan scenes in Chennai I thought he did fairly well.
innoru Top 10 aa :evil: :yessir:
Sari, versatility-ku thirumba varuvom.
Requirements:(collected so far from discussions)
1. Ability to blend into the film, irrespective of the film's milieu, mood, theme, setting (Groucho projects his Candidate Madhavan in this light)
2. Variety of roles - not sure what this means though - let's say ability to emote a range of emotions
3. Should we bring in ability to do any accent - then Kamal thavira others lose deposit.
Innum rendu moonu factors add pannunga. Appuram case by case oru oru attribute-a analyse pannalam
Bharath did a good job in Veyyil and KAdhalQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
One more reasoning is to deliver a same theme or even boring cliche in unique style.
* Thats where many heros and heroines fall and crumble ( I dont wanna name them)
* Thats what most comedians lack (including vivek, vadivel, kaundamani, senthil, svs, ygm etc where as nagesh and manorama stands apart, they can bring the same message again and again and would still have u glued to the screen )
Can you please elaborate ? I am not sure I got this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
My personal opinion remains, I can watch few of them (not necessarily as comedians) in same themes and scenarios, doing almost similar roles, where as most others bore you, in similar roles after few successful attempts in few stamped dialogues and presentations or even expressions
I knew this was going to happen when Plum asked for "meaning" of versatility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
inimEl thread ambEl thaan, yaaralaiyum kaappaaththa mudiyaadhu :yessir:
Examples kudunga please...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
topping star prasanth is very versatile..
there's noone sexier in lady costumes than prasanth.
comedy = no.1 (unintentional).. action (super.. all gymnastic moves).. song (jumping jack in sideways).. and sentimental scenes... :cry: incredible.. sentimental-ah mental aakiduvaru..
Ennanga idhu vamba pochu!
I just feel I can NOT get bored of few artists whilst I lose interest in many artrists very fast. One who keeps u engaged and wins ur interest each time with different roles or even with same role wins by a solid margin. Its a kind of versatality where they make u sit back and watch them in any given role (even repeated roles).
That I feel is the reason for few elder artists to STAND WITH TIMES and others get washed away in a decade or so.
Its a trait which many dont posses.
The crux is, 'காலத்தை வென்றவர்கள்'. If u analyse them, then most are versatile.
Ada, avinga yaarunnu ketten-nga..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
Yerkanave solliyirundha mannikkavum...
CR they are: Nagesh, Manorama
Matter over.
30-40 years mela endha oru artist (in any important role) field-la irukaangalo, field la irunthathoda mattum illaama impact create panraangalo, avangaLil palar.
:roll: I dont wanna name others, as I aint interested in controversy. Now lets say, matter over :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Nagesh-kaaga yerkanave vaadhaadiyirukken, and somewhat debatable
Manorama - Of course, she is versatile, no matter what one may say about going over the top (avinga versatile illenna vera yaaru versatile)
SP,
Controversy engalukku karumbu saapudra madhiri :razz:
bala, pr, others,
My point here is they NEED NOT BE a character artist or a COMEDIAN or even a GOOD artist, but is flexible in any given role and withstood times.
Avanga performance bore adikaama irukka. WIN. avlo thaan. Therez something MAGICAL about this versataility of withstanding times.
Best examples here are kamalhassan, rajnikant, sivaji, mgr kooda thaan ... (though how good he is an artist would lead to controversy and I aint game for it)
Thats why I feel sathyaraj, nasar etc are good candidates.
Three much'nga. I think Sujatha wrote about it (or was it in the 100 days function?) in katrathum petrathum - that Ambi was meant be annoying and Ambi/Sadha should see Remo as a *cool* person and Anniyan = Superman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
versatility hmmm
Kamal
Sivaji
Rajini
Balaiah
Naseer
annan anja singam
raghuvaran, madhavan just miss :D
mathhavanga ellam versatility kaatta irritate pannuvaanga.......even kamal, NT have irritated but they are just unbelievably good :)
Nerd, neenga table-ku endha pakkam irukkenganu puriyalai?
Sari adhukku enna ippo ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Plum is alleging that Remo was unnaturally cool (and thus annoying) because the character was trying to exude coolness as perceived by Ambi. That is giving too much credit-nu sonnEn.
Plum, naan sariyA thaanE pEsurEn.
Shankar/Sujatha characterization + Vikram's acting'kku support! But I would not call anniyan the best Shankar movie. It's Boys followed by mudhalvan, indhiyan, gendil, anniyan, kAdhalan, BOSS, Jeans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum