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Originally Posted by P_R

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Originally Posted by Aalavanthan

Ayanla, I think he spoke in English the same way a middle class smuggler would speak.. I meant fake english..

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idhaiyE dhaanga naan sonnEn. oththukkavE mAttEnuttAnga.

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nInga same matter Anniyanukku oputhukkunga. idhai oputhukkarOm.

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Originally Posted by Plum

AV, Surya-voda upper-bracket English-E(Ayan) was :lol:
Indhillaam....as I said, Madhavan has a natural advantage there.

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Plum,
In 'ayan', I think it's a bit more nuanced because Surya isn't supposed to play it straight. He speaks like a lower middle-class guy who's trying to speak fluent English unsuspiciously. And again I want to make the same point as in the other thread. I think you're barking up the wrong tree. What's the percentage of population which speaks English the way Madhavan does? What's really the natural advantage that he has? Perhaps it's just the ability to be the "other."

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Originally Posted by Plum

AV, vijay kooda unga college dhaanE? Avaraiyum unga aattathula sErthukka mAttIngaLA? ;-)

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EDHU VIJAY Loyola-vaaa.. Indha matter enaku ippa thaan ga theriyum. I know Sibiraj was a student of Loyola, namma Aparna from Pudhukottai is also from Loyola, Pandu-voda son also studied in Loyola, me and the computer hacker frm UPO sat in the same class in Loyola ..

AANAA Vijay loyola-athaan padichaarnu yaarume sollalaingo.. Appadiyoru symptomsum onnum kaanomae :? :wink:

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Originally Posted by equanimus

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Originally Posted by Plum

AV, Surya-voda upper-bracket English-E(Ayan) was :lol:
Indhillaam....as I said, Madhavan has a natural advantage there.

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Plum,
In 'ayan', I think it's a bit more nuanced because Surya isn't supposed to play it straight. He speaks like a lower middle-class guy who's trying to speak fluent English unsuspiciously. And again I want to make the same point as in the other thread. I think you're barking up the wrong tree. What's the percentage of population which speaks English the way Madhavan does? What's really the natural advantage that he has? Perhaps it's just the ability to be the "other."

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Thats exactly my point.. English mozhiyai Tamil padathula podavae koodaadhunu oru kootaam. Andha kootam also came victorious to have Tamil films to be named in Tamil (pokkiri, milagai, etc)

Appadiyae yaaravadhu onnu rendu paerum englishla pesanaa, oru group avar neraiya english use panraar nu pechu., innoru group ennaiyaa avan english pesaraannu. Adhuvae Vadivelu thapu thappaa english pesanaa sirichi rasikardhuku entire tamil nadu-ae kalambidum

Ippa enna thaan panna solreenga :)

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Originally Posted by equanimus

What's the percentage of population which speaks English the way Madhavan does? What's really the natural advantage that he has? Perhaps it's just the ability to be the "other."

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but when u play GM's heroes, who are a part of that madhavan's english zone, u need to talk good english - madhavan carried it pretty superbly in Minnale, can u say that for surya?? ok, world doesent end in GM's movies, but u had Ghajini - coundry's toppest rich man - forget it .....

again, speaking english is not the greatest criteria that we are looking for, but for a person who aspires to be nest kamalhaasar and when kamal fans hype so - i mean dont u think he should be good in "other" as well when u thing u r as good as kamal?

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Originally Posted by MADDY

but when u play GM's heroes, who are a part of that madhavan's english zone, u need to talk good english - madhavan carried it pretty superbly in Minnale, can u say that for surya?? ok, world doesent end in GM's movies, but u had Ghajini - coundry's toppest rich man - forget it .....

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It's unfair to compare Madhavan's english knowledge with Surya's. Its the same way as you cant compare Surya's versatility and passion towards cinema to Madhavan's (I cant imagine Maddy doing a six pack just for the sake of cinema. NO) I think its the director's work (GM here) to correct the language that the heroes speak. The end result is the director's approved version. Ofcourse, we have the right to question both hero and directors here !

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Originally Posted by MADDY

again, speaking english is not the greatest criteria that we are looking for, but for a person who aspires to be nest kamalhaasar and when kamal fans hype so - i mean dont u think he should be good in "other" as well when u thing u r as good as kamal?

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:notthatway: ONE India, ONE Tamil Nadu - ONLY One Kamal. (pudhusaa edhaachum try pannalaamnu thaan ) :) Surya is definitely following footsteps of his mentor, or atleast he claims !

Some of us are trying to be Gandhi, but are we the next ?

But you are right, he is one among other Saga's in Kamalji's nest the actual Nest :)

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Originally Posted by Aalavanthan

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Originally Posted by MADDY

but when u play GM's heroes, who are a part of that madhavan's english zone, u need to talk good english - madhavan carried it pretty superbly in Minnale, can u say that for surya?? ok, world doesent end in GM's movies, but u had Ghajini - coundry's toppest rich man - forget it .....

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It's unfair to compare Madhavan's english knowledge with Surya's. Its the same way as you cant compare Surya's versatility and passion towards cinema to Madhavan's (I cant imagine Maddy doing a six pack just for the sake of cinema. NO)

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unga languvej-laye ketkuren - u think kamal selected madhavan ahead of surya for anbe sivam, without checking the passion quotient?

also, by this analgoy, Arnold is a better actor than De Niro * :D

*i decalre that surya is not equal to arnold and madhavan is not equal to De Niro.......btw, i have had enuf of surya-maddy fights- i;m still sore abt madhavan's loss in the poll - so i'll not dwell into that......a person who is aspiring/hyped up to be next kamal and a person who is supposed to be better than best of bollywood - he needs to be a all rounder......

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Originally Posted by MADDY

unga languvej-laye ketkuren - u think kamal selected madhavan ahead of surya for anbe sivam, without checking the passion quotient?

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Maddy, Anbae Sivam was released in 2003.. 2002 varaikum Surya yaarunae theriyaama irundhuchu.. Then came Nantha and thats when people started to notice Surya. Surya was out of the question straight away.

And oh btw, I am not an Anti-Maddy, its just that Maddy came in the way when we speak abt Englifishu and am a fan of his Kannathil, Ayudha ezhuthu (who can forget "maanga adi") !

maddy or surya, no difference in spoken english... to the non-Indian, its all :lol:

pls dont split hair and pls refrain from comparing. :sigh2: (plum is the culprit) :rant:

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Originally Posted by MADDY

again, speaking english is not the greatest criteria that we are looking for, but for a person who aspires to be nest kamalhaasar and when kamal fans hype so - i mean dont u think he should be good in "other" as well when u thing u r as good as kamal?

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Maddy,
Firstly, I don't think one needs to speak good English to be as good as some great actor, or simply a good actor. Period. Secondly, what's with the halo around Kamal's English? nEththu kUda oru interview pAththEn. He used the article "an" incorrectly ("an year") twice in it.