:lol: saainthu saainthu nee saayumbOdhu adadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...Quote:
Originally Posted by motte_dhaasan
Plum - Avinga padaththula ellaam stuff irukkumE-nu sonnEn. GVP-yaala avLO dhaan mudiyum. Give the script to Raaja, he would have made those films even better.
Hats off to GVM. :notworthy: :clap: To be honest, I didn't like BR's introduction about Maestro, especially his 'dogged devotees' (really hate these words), even though he complimented well enough in conclusion (only after he listened to the samples). If Maestro has only handful of admirers and fans, how did GVM even know about Maestro that he is still composing? How would people throng to Nehru Stadium for his live concerts? How come he is still composing both for new generation of directors like Myskkin, Suseendran and also veterans like MTV, Bapu alike and also for Prakash Raj, Balki, Bala.
To me the whole interview looked like BR asking GVM in a tone, why did he go to him (vEra ALA illa), and the real thought I got was, 'he was not supposed to go to him at all kind of tone'. Unless you hear his compositions fully (post 90's), you should not decide about a composer, prematurely. After you hear his composition, you change your tone completely. That's what happens with public which I don't blame, but if it is from writers like BR, then it is unfortunate.
Only thing I would like to quote here is, 'poonai kaNNa moodina boologam irundidumaa enna'?
V_S, Baddy is MSV fanboi so there :lol2:
Nope - he is a big time fanboy of IR , in his own way !Quote:
Originally Posted by wizzy
Baddy loves music in general...of course, he is a fan of IR too, especially the early IR. That doesn't mean that he writes an interview like a fanboy. He has a job to do and a perspective to maintain. Some of it might not sound right to hard core fans like us. But I can categorically state that Baddy is an IR fan, having grown up in that period. Besides, I've known Baddy for 25 years now.
Shank,
I don't know if you read this introduction by BR.
There is a big difference in saying he IS a fan and he WAS a fan. If you already said, 'especially, the early IR', you always tend to fall into 'WAS a fan'. Also without any statistical evidence or census, you cannot claim that 'The congregation has shrunk to a cult, with only a handful of dogged devotees still keeping the faith'. How you do know for sure to state that? I am not even talking as a fan, even he may be right, but unless he is sure, he cannot state that which may not give the true picture. This is how the media has been falsely projecting him for the past 20 years. I want that to stop immediately. Even I would say for other composers as well, as we don't know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BR
If he is in his church and others in their, does he not know what today's people like? He knows it but he wants to give them only the best. It does not mean he does not update himself on the current music scenario.
His analogy comparing Agni Natchatiram with MSV is plain horrible. Is that a perspective? How is it so difficult to understand this. We are talking about a composer who is in the market after 20 years having (falsely identified as thrown out of the market just after 92) and open to any director and supporting their beliefs 100%. If Bharathiraja or Mani left him, he stopped composing? Nobody else is approaching him? Why do they still approach him? You are in total dis-belief after hearing that sample from GVM. What does it say? You cannot believe the same Ilaiyaraaja (whom you believed 20 years back, not anymore) has done it again after 20 years? He has been doing for the past 20 years consistently, not just for GVM. We know that. Every music lover knows this. You don't have to be a fan to understand this. Unless you are interested, you cannot see that. I am not saying you have to be his fan even today, but please don't write him off. The introduction clearly states he is sitting back up, just because some new director has approached someone whom he is not suppose to approach. That's not Ilaiyaraaja's fault, yours, ours.
V_S,
freeya vidunga :)
BR loves the Raja of early days for sure but he is also in the ' I am a modern man' mode. For him. Raja is old and that comes out every time he writes about Raja. He has to show himself as someone in touch with 'waerld music' and all. So you will find him quite happy with Rahman, Amot Trivedi and likes. And also with the 'new age' Hindi directors. So his stand is , "Raja was gold, but he now old. I, of course, am a modern critic and have no time for his recent output". When he refused to acknowledge the music of films like 'Virumandi' and 'PazhassiRaja', you know he is instead of being a modern critic, is unfortunately living in the past when it comes to Raja, refusing to see the beauty that Raja brings to his music nowadays.
Well said Suresh ji! I felt Raja and music fans does not deserve such an introduction on Maestro. Thanks for understanding my views.
V_S, I'm not going to sit here and defend every word that Baddy wrote. I was just trying to give some perspective on Baddy the person. I did read the interview and can understand how you feel. I don't blame you, I might feel the same too. Even Suresh65 and Plum know how I keep imploring Baddy to listen to Raja's latter day output. But that's okay, everybody has their opinions. Even if Baddy doesn't get it, it doesn't mean he is not a fan. Also, things have changed, undeniably. Its not the 80s anymore. Raja's style has changed as well. And it's okay. For fans like us, he is and will always be the raja...that's all matters.
Shank, while i agree to the ground realities, things are surely different now. Yes it is not 80s but it is not 00s too!
Yes, Starting from 95, ARR wave started getting Peak. Around the end of Century, many transitions happened from this camp to that. Also some new comers went straight there. Actually, internet wasn't as popular that time, as it is now. no facebook, twitter, and the penultimate blogs on Raja which does excellent analysis. I guess Raja is more popular now than the mid 90s to 05....Becos, now, there is no great wave from anybody incl ARR. Inspite of other MD's being super successful in getting best-of-best combos and also nice commercial viabilities, there is a feeling which is more stronger now than before -> Olden days are golden and Raja's Peak Days were Platinum. Wide amount of youngsters themselves nowadays appreciate and listen to RajaClassics and Rare Hits. He is more discussed, praised, analyzed, listened now. This is a way is surely the failure of the Current gen MD also, not just becos of Raja's monstrous quality Albums of 80s 90s. They were prevailing for 30 years. Accessibility of Raja's large body of work easily is also a very imp. factor. Everyday youtube is getting filled with rare Raja numbers.
So, now, when Raja attends a function now, the quantity of the (much deserving) praise is very high. Concerts too are slightly frequenting. We can in a way say that, as a Raja fan, we are in somewhat best, Interesting times. Inspite of Raja not having touched the 1C mark(rarely happens) but still he is still getting quality offers like SriRamaRajyam, PazhasiRaja, NEPV etc..In this, NEPV is surely unique offer. As per the interview, Raja himself has said to Gautam that "Intha Sankalpam(alliance) nallaa irukku, continue aagumaannu theriyala" which means he is interested! He don't say this to many directors.
So what i say is, even if NEPV kind of albums doesn't happen, but Raja gets pretty decent ones like Azhagrsaamiyin Kudhirai, Dhoni(the offer, not the same director!), and another side, he does concerts at many cities(which is already coming up) this is surely more than enough to keep the talk going (though its not enuf for HC fans like us) Anyways, future surely looks interesting :)