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Sorry, read as "Even IF Dhanam is going to be..."
This post meant as if IR songs after KM never got recognised by people/youth of TN.That is how i read it.Things are not so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJudge
I could think of the following movies that has songs appreciated by people or should i say got popular..ie., post KM..
Sethu, Azhagi, KannukkulNilavu, Friends, Kasi (had very good acceptance esp in smaller towns), Manasellam, Pithamagan, Bharathi, Virumaandi, ONOK.
Did i miss any?
mallepoovu: Chirugaali will grow on you with repeated hearings..I did hear all the songs but is a rather hurry to finish them rather than to enjoy them :-(.
raaga.com wasnt very clear on my laptop.
The Theme music is decent and probably might set the pace in the movie (looks like title music), but i am not pleased with the absence of live orchestra other than vocals.
First opinion, will go down well with the telugus.
Inetk, I really wonder if you think before you use certain words when reviewing an album. Gajula and Chirugali is kiddish? What you mean by that? You mean that it sounds like a kids song? If that sounds like a kids song, then the song which launched ARR career Chinna Chinna aasai is a nursery rhyme backed with cool sounds. Nothing about Gajula or Chirugali sounds kiddish to me and i have listened to a lot of music including kids music.
Gajula is a simple situational(based on the lyrics it sounds like a ladies function. ) based folkish telugu song. By the way i know telugu well since i did all my education in Hyd.
Chirugali sounds mesmerizing from the first listen and would have been a song for KJ Yesudas if it would have been a decade back. His son does a very good job though. Nothing is simple or kiddish about this song. A real Gem of a song.
I think you are caught in a bundle of mixed/contradictory feelings when you review an IR album. One hand you want simple tunes on the other hand you think its outdated or kiddish or archaic. Its time you listened with a clear mind. I think you will appreciate more than the 3 songs you liked. I for one believe this is much better album than Dhanam. what i call a wholesome album from IR in a while.
Coming to Vasthava natho . The song is not oudated and it sounds catchy as it should be, probably the situation would be. A typical Item song in a bar or a group of guys singing and drinking. If you listen closely the song is not embarassing at all. the lyrics are not that bad eventhough an item song. Much better than some hit numbers from Tamil which had some real vulgar lyrics.
Also a lot of guys are complaining about the synth sound. I for one do not find anything wrong with his sound now even synth. It does not seem to impact his songs at all for me( and i am real IR fan and have listened to a lot of songs of his). I think you have to accept that this is going to be his new sound now. Do not keep living in past. and i am sure for the right project he will use the appropriate orchestra and live sounds. As for this movie all the songs sound lovely synth or not. Enjoy it guys . Its been a long wait but worth it.
rprasad: Glad you loved Mallepuvvu and Dhanam songs so much - that's what actually matters, more than my 100 words.
prasad,
why you always bring ARR into this ir topic? he dint refer ARR in his 100 words review !ditto with RS sakkarakatti hi fi system la than nalla kekkum. kashttam!
rprasad : even i was surprised at karthik's (inetk) dislike of the two songs . But it is 'his' view and his way of expressing of how he 'felt' .
I dislike the first song of a 'balana' composer - well most peopel like it. thats how we are ,right ?
why we like/dislike a particular piece of music cant be explained with a critical path analysis or a pareto analysis or quadratic equation ! Its how we feel !
Five good songs out of 8, that makes it a really good album IMO. Even during IR's peak period, albums with 5 good songs weren't released every week.
If we don't consider those of pAvalar creations / motherland pictures, BR/MR etc, most movies had 3-4 good numbers typically. (Look at the phenomenal panneer pushpangaL, even that had one forgettable vengAya sAmbAr.)
Thumbs up for MP:-)
I wish IR comes up with one album that has 100% Vijay Yesudas. It would be phenomenal!
heard songs of mallepoove.just great.hope the producers promote the songs well. let's see
Mellapoovu :2thumbsup: Fantastic album with excellent melodies
Looks like IR composed some song in 80s and released in 2008 :)
Can't wait to get my own CD
I believe Malle Puvvu will be super hit
kattium koorum
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/ut/s/telugu/20
Lovely album. 'Chandamama' is excellent. Nice to see Shreya back in Illayaraja's album. 'Chandamama' is a melody reminiscent of the other excellent Illayaraja number, 'Kalaya Nijama', from Coolie No.1.
'Chiru Gaali' is another excellent number. Can't disagree more with Karthik's 'kiddish and simple' comment. Wish more kids-on-the-block, old or new, can compose like this !!
Melody rules this album, which is definitely a step above Dhanam. Waiting for the CD release.
I mean CD release in Bangalore
'Gaajula' is another wonderful melody. I honestly don't care if it is old or new but a melody is a melody and I think 'Gaajula' is one. Manjari has done a nice job. Illayaraja has got all three favorites of his, Shreya, Manjari and Bhava, sing in this album.
I always wondered if Ilaiyaraaja had a special affinity towards telugu movies. Very few of his telugu albums can be considered bad. Most of them have nice melodies or catchy songs.
Its amazing that he came up with these lovely songs in an hour's time. I know lot of producers/directors have said that he composed in 1 hour or 45 min etc.. But i guess it comes down to his mood during that period of time whether its 1 hour or 45 min or 30 min. I think he must have been a good mood during the1 hour for this movie composing.
But again i wonder was it the same when he composed for Maniratnam or Balachander before? Or did he take more time. It would be fascinating study if someone can make documentary about IR and interview all the top directors he has worked with and get their views on how the composing happened for their movies which resulted in such hit songs. and also get IR's take on what he did to compose those special songs. But again he might brush this off by saying that it just happened at that time and he did nothing. Will be an interesting project though if someone can take this up and try to make a short film on IR. I think it will have to be someone who has IR's respect and with whom IR will be able to talk freely.
Great album! 3 decent albums from IR in a short span... and bigger names on the pipeline... good times!
I guess thats cos Telugu fans just enjoy the music for what it is, and get on with life... Tamil fans think "Would it look cool if I liked this song or hated it?" and base all subsequent actions on the answer to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rprasad
rprasad,
Remember the MR interview when some of his movies' DVD's were launched? He made some comparison of IR & ARR there and remarked of IR delivering without much pushing and also very limited requirement of alterations.
OTOH, we have also read about IR giving MR the 'nilA adhu' tune for the 'thAlAttu' song initially during nAyakan composition. MR promptly rejected it and demanded something different which yielded 'then pANdi seemaiyilE'.
I remember reading in those days that IR took a long time & struggle to compose 'hEy pAdal onRu' for Priya. (Obviously he was suffering a low then which had to be compensated with "stereo" gimmick and also some unpleasant copy / inspirations for that album - dArling , akkarai seemai and to a smaller extent the O Priya song).
IMO, while IR is a gifted composer and a lot more consistent & prolific than many contemporaries, he also suffers from moods and quality of his customers. And possibly the stakes involved (he typically never failed a big-banner those days as also big budget ones) and the willingness of the producer to spend for music (anyone ready to go to Budapest will get a grand composition even today).
It should be interesting to contrast this 30 min, 1 hour kind of reports with ARR's reply to a reader's question in Kumudam on ability to compose in a few minutes:-)
why are U so much worried about Inetk's Reviews? I've long back started ignoring his reviews...Not because I find it wrong but because I've started to accept the fact that its his views and is not going change mine in anyway :) after reading most of his reviews (Still reading) I have come to know that he reviews the albums on a single listen, and pours out his thoughts that comes instantly. There is nothing wrong with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by rprasad
I just keep moving on coming to accept the new avatar of Raaja not comparing him with 'himself' or any other composer.
i disliked 'Dhanam' in the first hearing but slowly caught up with its intricacies. I loved 'MP' in the first listen itself especially 'Vaasthavo'! Thats what i love to call a real 'Telugu' Dhamaka after his 'Nenemi Chethunu' from 'ShivShankar' (Try listening to it for the energy level) or a 'Singapore Santhalona' from 'Shambu' :swinghead: ...ttha ithaanda 'Kuthu Paattu' Adichi kizhikannum :twisted:
Keep enjoying 'Raasaiaah' inspite of what anybody else says about his meesic :)
Have you ever reviewed your reviews after multiple Listenings or after the songs had become a hit? Just curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by inetk
point to be noted is that IR gets paid just enough to composi in 1 hour and record it in a matter of a week, while modern MDs get paid to take AS LONG AS IT TAKES to compose and months for rerecording and this is applicable to most of the modern MDs. IR spends time on the album/tunes only if the movie needs it/ producer has paid enough etc.,
Then the next question of lot of guys is why he accepts such poor producer's projects - his answer would be - probably - quick money or just to encourage some new guy came to the studio with a lot of hope - we have heard of stories of how he did films even for free. - the more we try to discover the cause - the more it veers off into his actions/behavior, public speeches/ege etc., There is no other MD who is so much open before his fans/media - He is as he is. The rest hide behind veneers of humility which no one would ever find out if it is real or not.
Vow !!
How many happy posts in just one day !!
Great guys ! Addhuu... !!
As rprasad has mentioned, this album is simply loveable no matter synth or not !
The "Mallepuvvu" song carried me away to the 80s to songs like "Poongaatru un paer solla..." etc !
The beauty of IR is his ability to sound like a Mallu or Telugu native when he crosses borders. Gaajula song is typical telugu folk , like "Vaan pole" from Salangai oli !
So to appreciate this song, one should have some understanding of Telugu taste..
I am now waiting for Pazhassi Raja where he will have tried some malabar style tunes set in ancient Kerala instruments :)
'Hero nenochane' was bugging me from yesterday that it resembles some other song which I've heard recently. I found out that its the song 'Kaiyil oru keyboardum' from 'Ajaantha'. :)
Is it cos of 'Tippu' or is it the same song masquerading as different ones :x
RS,
For me the song sounded like "Marudhaani.." from Konji pesalam, again by Tippu !
Never mind, since Ajantha doesn't seem to hit the screens, its ok if IR reuses the tunes for more popular movies :)
another movie to be released
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/m...cle/40559.html
Rajasaranam
I bought the Dhanam CD and listened to it couple of times. Dhanam dhanam is my least favorite and koothu onnu comes next. All other songs are good. It is released by Five Star Audio. I was eager to find out the technicians working with IR but no listing of them. :(
<Dig>Quote:
Originally Posted by licvskumar
why are you signing as 'Rajasaranam' :? Are you also the same person in orkut who signs of as 'Rajasaranam' ? I had been using this nick for the past 8 years and its creating some confusion for the people who read the posts (Really! One of my friends called me up and asked whether Iam using two ID's in orkut) :evil:
Nothing to do with the owneship of a name, but its good if you dont use it, to avoid confusion :) </dig>
I think 'kannanukku enna vendum' is much better than the tracks from UO. After listening to the songs on CD couple of times, I think Dhanam songs are good too. It boosts my confidence that IR will surely rock in Nandhalaa and in other upcoming movies. :D
Kannanukku enna vendum resembles in mood with Sollayo vai thirandhu. Any body felt so too?
Yes, I do. And when I feel I've completely bungled on a particular review, I do another review, just to make sure the few people who do read my review are not deprived of what I'm enjoying! GV Prakash's Oram Po is the only example, so far - however.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
On another thought, I really liked your attitude - but I wonder why so many fans are (not necessarily Raja's, but others like Rahman's too) so insecure about negative/ mildly negative reviews! Do they really think a blog review or for that matter, even a mainstream magazine review will sway people away from a soundtrack?
Vikatan, for instance, seems to love Satyam's music. Times of India is making fun of the same soundtrack :-) Opinions have always been highly individualistic and diverse....sorry for the digression.
Ilayaraja composed Bobbili Raja songs in two hours – D Suresh Babu
D Suresh Babu said, “Ilayaraja is the finest technician I ever worked with so far. He is so efficient that he gave all the songs of Bobbili Raja film in just two hours. I used to be so afraid of sitting in his room when I was producing that film. I feel honed to sit along with him on this stage. I saw Ramana Maharshi photo in his room and Ramana Maharshi’s philosophy changed my life.”
I will direct a Telugu musical with Ilayaraja work - Jayasudha
Jayasudha said, “Mallepuvvu was a good film. I had been acting in films for the past 38 years and had been contemplating on directing a film for the past 15 years. Once I met Ilayaraja and discussed about directing a musical in a Hollywood musical style where most of the scenes are narrated using music and songs. He agreed to do it. I am sure that I will fulfill that dream one day.”
With me, music happens - Ilayaraja
Maestro Ilayaraja said, “It is a great opportunity to meet all of you. I generally don’t attend music launches. But this is an exception. Ramesh Varma approached me a few years ago with the subject of ‘Oka Voorilo’ and asked me to compose music. I did not like the story and I said a firm no. Veturi called me recently and said that he is sending a new guy to narrate a story. I realized that Ramesh Varma came again. I cautioned him that I will not do the music if I don’t like the story. I liked the story of Mallepuvvu. I felt that there is lot of scope for a good music. This film is about a love story happening to a building construction worker. He said that he is looking for five songs. I suggested him that there are eight situations for the songs and composed eight songs in a span of one hour (between 7 am to 8 am). I am surprised by these music directors who give interviews on TV explaining how they composed music. I feel that music can never be done. Music should happen. I feel that each and every music director (except me) are trying to do music. For me, music happens. It’s like bird flying in the sky. It happens. See how it appears when you try to do graphic work on a computer about how a bird flies.”
-From the MP audio release function
It is not insecure feeling ! just a small irritation when some careless comments are passed, like "kiddish" etc..Quote:
but I wonder why so many fans are (not necessarily Raja's, but others like Rahman's too) so insecure about negative/ mildly negative reviews! Do they really think a blog review or for that matter, even a mainstream magazine review will sway people away from a soundtrack?
btw..if you don't want people to take your reviews seriously, then why are you so prompt in posting the link to your "nooru" every time an album is released ?
I guess its Bela Shinde (voice sounds like a mix of Shreya and Madhushree). This song has simple, yet flowing interludes. Nice. BTW, the strings at the end (after the flute ends) of 2nd interlude is so Yuvanish!.Quote:
Originally Posted by krish244
http://www.marathimovieworld.com/int...-interview.php
"Billsandey" --> Americanised version of "Bala Shinde" :)
thanks,
Krishnan
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/ut/s/telugu/10/
All 9 from MP at 1 thro 9 most user requested songs..good to see that.
I have always felt Telugu people love and appreciate IR more than we (Tamils) do.I talked to couple of telugu guys to mention that mallepuvvu audio released and they instantly replied,oh ya, it has ilayaraja's music.
Mallepuvvu with a medley of melodies (mallepuvvu,chandamama,chirugali,suvvi,Gajula,Them e) would surely get the appreciation from the Telugu people.
Sincerely expecting our own people to lap-up atleast couple of songs from Dhanam .
:-). Mine is an opinion. Whether its taken seriously or not depends not on me but others who read it. I'd certainly want my opinion to be taken seriously, but I'm not keen on pandering to popular opinion just for that sake.
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btw..if you don't want people to take your reviews seriously, then why are you so prompt in posting the link to your "nooru" every time an album is released ?
Raja fan..
You hit the bulls eye when you said that raja transforms himself when he crosses borders..
cant help going back into nostalgia but he has used so many local folk tunes for the perfect flavor..even within a stage, each region has its flavours and he has used it to hair raising effects.. As SPB said in one TV show.. IR is a Rakshasudu!!
As an example, listen to "bhaagyada
balegaara" song from nammura mandara hoove (1996) kannada.. This is a folk song (from udupi/karwar region)which was made popular after Raaja used this song in nammura...
Sorry for the digression... couldnt help it.
Rediff says "Dhanam" is a good album!
http://inwww.rediff.com/movies/2008/aug/07ssd.htm
thanks,
Krishnan
The comments below the rediff review are quite interesting (possibly by a TFM DF'er).
dear friends, i am listening to fm channels frequently.but i dont get a chance to listen to uliyin oosai or dhanam songs. why they dont play them?