A link for listening Gaayam 2 - http://muzigle.com/#album/gaayam_2
A link for listening Gaayam 2 - http://muzigle.com/#album/gaayam_2
Thanks a ton Aravind... listening now.
Million thanks :D. If i say again people will say i always say the same thing, but who cares. This is magamaayi blockbusting album. :notworthy:
Gaayam - 2 : thetwo melody songs featuring driram are quite superb , producing the expected Paa styled melodies ..
Rama Rajyam & its twin yeluthundru evoked quite abit of ennui ,something idhu thaai pirantha dhesam from siraichalai managed to avoid ...
Kalagne , is nice melody , but why raaja sir has to sing , even if apt , it evokes the early 90s memoeries ...
Manasenka is just ok , i was reminded of the songs kaaka kaa ka from julie ganapathy, possibly due to the fact it was sung by the same singer ...
Better quality Gayam-2 listening links (via a friend in twitter)
http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu...p?mid=A0002643
Loving the album. I know people are not happy with Raja singing 'kalagane' but I think it is quite apt and that is a lovely melody. Just the first listen. In a different place with a slow connection, bad speakers and no headphones. Will post my views later this week.
Hi,
Any online shops to buy Gaayam 2 Cd? Hope it will not be available in chennai..
Gaayam - Saami kodutha telugu varam :D
this man never stops mesmerizing
:yes: but andala logam's prelude slightly reminds Paa's theme music.. but no other complains,... refreshing tune.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki
another one is also good.... orchestration is slightly fast.. esp rythm section....
Yeat that two songs are superb but my compliant is Sriram :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by raajarasigan
gaayam 2 has raaja doing some weird magic in tunes. Orch is largely reminiscent of paa. but the tunes are very special
Andaala lokam is my pick in a limited listening.
Ilaiyaraaja sung telugu songs are rare ones and his song in this movie is very special - somewhat similar in template to the Shiva 2006 song. IT works big time.
Random thoughts on "Eluthundru" from Gaayam-2
http://ursmusically.blogspot.com/201...-gaayam-2.html
Still waiting for the CD of Gayam 2 to be available in Bangalore. As of now, my review of the album after listening to it in the raaga site.
1. Lets start with the most favoured song by everyone.
Endhukamma Prema Prema'. The song starts with a guitar like sound and the keyboard piano playing. The pallavi is accompanied by the piano. No rhythm till the pallavi is played once completely. A very leisurely pallavi. The interlude starts with a nice keyboard run followed by the synthesizer run. The rhythm picks up and flows into the charanam. The charanam literally picks up speed and as usual for Raja's charanam, it twists and turns and keeps building up the melody until it joins the pallavi. The second interlude too is on the keyboard (sounding like the piano). The interlude is short. Overall a superb melody. Based on Mohanam scale. I wonder how this man can still milk something new out of this scale!!!
2. Lets now take up the other song which has also caught everyone's fancy. This song starts with the violins sounding very similar to the 'kaatu vazhi' tune / Paa theme. Then the song starts 'andhala lokam' sings Sriram Parthasarathy to be later joined by the new singer, Saraswathi. The first interlude in keeping with the overall orchestration has the keyboard, synth and synth violins playing together wonderfully. A small theme from the interlude is continued in between the lines of the charanam. The charanam as usual builds up the melody beautifully and very charmingly merges with the pallavi. The second interlude starts with the keyboard and the violins and later what sounds like synth flute. The theme movement played throughout the song is top class and it binds the whole song together. The basic aim of this song is to evoke a sense of an ideal life and it does it with elan. The lokam (world) becomes 'andala lokam' (beautiful world) when you listen to this song.
3. Third, we take up a song which many people seem to have liked the tune but not Raja singing it !!! Something we hear often. The prelude sets the tone for the whole song. A sort of tragic tone. The tune is lovely and to me Raja's singing is good but it could have gone to someone like Vijay Jesudas, who did a nice job of such a song in 'Mallepoovu'. I love the anu pallavi in the song (or tundu pallavi as it is sometimes called.) There is some justification in the criticism against Raja singing the song as you can hear him strain sometimes. The emotion is perfect though. Overall, a top class tune. Wish someone like Veturi was alive to write lyrics for this song. The whole orchestration is in keeping with the mood of the song.
4. While the three songs above have sort of been accepted by most people as being class, this song did not evoke such reactions. I would say the reactions have been mainly neutral. 'masakenuka mandu undhi' sung by Anita is obviously an item song. It reminds me of most of the modern Tamil songs, especially those tuned by Yuvan. The structure is very similar I would say in the pallavi. As usual the charanam is typical Raja, building it beautifully. Probably one of the more contemporary 'item number' song by Raja. The accordion playing in the second interlude is interesting.
5 & 6. 'Eluthundru' and 'Ramarajyam'. Both the songs (which are different words for the same tune) have been dismissed by most people as Ramki has stated here, 'inducing ennui' or as typical filmi revolutionary songs. To be very honest I have been very impressed by both these songs. Let me try and explain why. If you take the case of 'Eluthundru', I agree with people that it sounds like a typical filmi revolutionary song but what impressed me was the tools used by Raja to achieve this!!! Raja starts the song with very typical orchestration. A typical drum beat in the background, a chorus to support the main voice and the main sounding very harsh and strong. The lyrics very in your face. Then comes the transformation. After the pallavi is done for the first round, the rhythm pattern completely changes without us realizing. The regular drum pattern is replaced by a very irregular beat in the background. It is almost as if a jazz drummer has now entered the mix and is playing according to his whim. The single drum beat gives the required power in the interlude as does the chorus. The charanam is very atypical because the beat is a free flowing one and not the powerful one. In between the tune almost turns tragic and finishes with a powerful twist. The second interlude is on the synth with the rhythm reminding us of some places of 'adi ushas' from 'Pazhassi Raja'. What impressed me about this song were: a very atypical beat for such a revolutionary song, eschewing most of the devices for such a song: not much of chorus, no saxophone, no trumpets, no thundering rhythmic explosion like 'Om Sivoham' or 'Aalamadangana' or no huge string segments. In short, Raja achieves an 'old revolutionary effect' using the new devices. In my opinion, this is superb experimentation. Making the synth and the drum pad sound as if they were always made for the revolutionary songs!!! I don't know how many will agree with me but that is how I feel.
It is clear that Raja is now fully into the jazz / synth mode and we are now more used to this style. Everyone has been calling this the 'Paa' style but I could hear the same style in 'Kadhal Kavidhai' as well. It is just that we have taken a lot more time to come to grips with that style. At the same time Raja has been tweaking his style so that it now appeals a lot to us. Old timers may have the same issues. Smaller interludes, lack of real instruments, very little violin play and no flute whatsoever. But answer is, how that matter when he can still deliver 'anadala lokam' and 'endukkamma prema'.
Final verdict. Definitely an album worth buying. You cannot go wrong with those two songs, even if others don't affect you much.
Nice review! Endukamma Prema and Andaala Lokam form the cream and infact, even the song that IR sang too,though i agree that this song should have gone to someone like Vijay Yesudas. Or why not even Yesudas.
Overall, a nice album that can keep me going for few days(and ofcourse years too). But still, that doesnt stop me from waiting for more: What happened to Thyagayya, SRK, etc?
I said Vijay Yesudas because he did a good job of similar song in 'Mallepoovu'. Added to it is the fact that the Yesudas of today is no where close to the Yesudas at his prime. This is a typical Yesudas song and he should have sung it at his prime.
Good Review Suresh and the time spent for this.
when u say that , I want to know if it is due to an mistakes in pronunciation or lack of feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by raagas
I found Raaja song absolutely impossible to skip. It is very arresting.
However I would like to know why a Vijay yesudas might have done better justice to this song.
Will gayam be a hit ?
http://movies.rediff.com/report/2010...u-gaayam-2.htm
http://www.teluguone.com/cms/cinema/...ewId=REV000290
With Ilyaraja scored music, all the songs in the movie are melodious and pleasant to the ears. Re-recording too is good and elevates the mood.
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tel...ew-030910.html
Music by Illarayaraja needs a special mention. Though the background score is excellent, the tunes provided for the songs could have be done better if the maestro would have concentrated a little more.
http://www.supergoodmovies.com/8250/...Review-Details
Maestro Ilayaraja has scored the music, but he has past his prime and seems to have lost touch. The lyrics are not insightful and information like in Gaayam, where Sirinivennala Seetharama Sastry chipped in.
Suresh,
thanks for the review..frankly speaking..i am planning to hear it from online after read your review.
revert back to you with my likes and dislikes.
Jai,Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
I will let raagas answer you in detail :) Here is my take on the song. Raja's singing is inch perfect wrt the emotion the song wants to convey. I don't hear any problem with the pronunciation as well. I do hear a bit of strain in his voice during the charanams.
My saying that Vijay Jesudas would have been a good fit was for different reason. (I don't think he would have conveyed the emotion with the same intensity that Raja did. ) Raja has sung many such songs (a very similar type of song appears in the movie 'Sunny'). People nowadays just seem to skip these songs saying, 'oh, one more sad song sung by Raja'. Very unfair I know but that seems to be the reality. My feeling was that if Vijay Jesudas had sung it would probably have a wider reach. People may listen to it because it is not Raja!!! I chose Vijay Jesudas because he did a very nice job of 'chirugali chirugali' (Mallepoovu) , which also falls in the same genre.
'Gayam -2' has been in loop for quite some time now. Enjoying all the songs. A close friend had called from Kerala to say that he heard the songs, that they were melodious and Raja is now fully into the 'Paa' sound and overall sounding very youthful!!! Can't help but agree with him.
My feel is that this album will reach more Raja fans than his earlier Telugu album, 'Om Shanthi'. As far as it reach with the general audience, I have no clue nor can I make a prediction. There have been many songs of various music directors, which I thought were pretty unimaginative and dumb but they went on to become big hits. So I will not take the risk of predicting how these songs will be received by the general public.
Loving 'andala lokam' a lot. I find this song a very different construction from Raja. It seems to be build around a small 'theme'. The prelude ends with this 'theme'. After the first two lines of pallavi are sung, the tune again becomes this theme. They way the violin (maybe synth violin) follows the pallavi gives goosebumps. The first interlude ends with a different 'theme' which follows the song in the charanam. The charanam itself ends with the main theme tune again!!! The second interlude ends with a variation of the pallavi played!!! Very intelligently constructed tune, where the main theme keeps appearing regularly.
It is now clear that this sound is going to be Raja's sound for the time being. This is quite different from the synth of the late 90s. Here the synth effect is not much. It doesn't show up much in this album. I am pretty happy with this sound and I feel Raja is now in a phase where he is going to use this sound for some more time. I am sure we will get lot more great songs in the future.
A reco of the songs where you can get a feel of the new Raja sound:
- Most of the songs of 'Paa'
- 'Unnai Patri Sonnal' - Madhiya Chennai
- 'Pudu Pournami Nilavu' - Kannukulle
- 'Edaya Bagilu' - Suryakanthi
- 'Chinna Polike Ledhu' - Om Shanthi
- 'Aaro padunnu doorie' - Katha Tudarunnu
- 'oli tharum sooriyanum' - Valmiki
- 'nilavu varum neram' - Jaganmohini
If you listen to these songs carefully, you can understand why I don't crib about the 70s or 80s Raja. This Raja is a new Raja and I am loving him.
I saw "saravana poikaiyil' a devotional album under IR and Shobana's name in another website. Although most of songs are remake of old original tunes, there were couple new.
Is this album done by IR?
I dont think there is anything wrong in the emotional aspect of the singing.But it is apparent that his is putting in lot of effort and the output isnt smooth. We all have 'trained ears' for ilaiyaraaja's music and can instantly look for certain aspects to like a song. i like this composition a lot.I dont know the situation in the film and all. But if the situation or the song demanded a non-young voice, which prompted him to sing it, then i feel even Yesudas could have sung it better(he can sing it without showing the strain).Again ilaiyaraaja sings the Anu-pallavi lines perfectly. but the strain in Pallavi lines and charanam lines is very apparent. And i just didnt want to believe in my own opinion. I played the song to a friend and my wife too (a fresh pair of ears helps) and they too felt that there is something wrong.My wife tells me that the grip on sruthi is not perfect and that there is slight slippage,which happens due to age(particularly when the scale is lower). Probably thats the discomfort i can sense(which i couldnt exactly pinpoint).I couldnt feel this in "Oil Tharum"(Valmiki) but could again sense it in another similar song that he sang in Hindi for Shiva-2006. However, i feel this "Kalagane" is a better composition than that Shiva-2006 song.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Visiting a relative and he played 'khajurAhO kanavilE' from ONOK and was telling me and another relative in the car that this is an unknown IR gem - came few years before - not noticed - but much superior to most songs in the recent times. (He is not a regular IR-admirer and doesn't know that I'm one. I was silently enjoying his marketing of Raja music to me and the other relative, never revealing that I've heard this song a lot of times before :-) )
When we reached home, the third one, who claims to listen to TFM only very rarely - can't even speak fluent Thamizh due to living outside TN most of his life, got hooked to this number and went on playing repeatedly in the big Bose system at home.
Everyone seemed to be enjoying the song so much and talking highly about this to me who pretended to not know much about this movie or song. It was fun to ask questions like - is the singer HH etc :-)
I was stunned with the bass score in this song - the melodic bass, so typical of IR but seriously lacking in most current TFM which relies on only 'thALakkozhuppu' to thrive!
From a tune point of view, 'Kalagane' is lovely and I like the way the rhythm goes after the first two lines of the pallavi, 'naalo..'. This song is in similar style to the one Raja tuned for the Telugu movie 'Sunny'. Similar smooth flowing melody for a tragic situation. Raja seems to give such numbers for Telugu movies. 'Kalagane', the Sunny song and 'Chirugali'. All of them very good compositions.
app,
I am sure they would not have expected you to have such an id in tfmpage :)If they visit TFMpage that is :D
ONOK had some nice songs. Heard the movie was good only during the interval, when nothing was screened. Difficult to believe it was a Fazil movie.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Trust me, it's a terrible film, terrible!
Every time i listen to Raja-Vaali discussion about 'Kaatril varum geetham' in the audio and then see the picturization, I tend to think Raja has more tolerance than any other person in TFM :D
Fazil has moved on to other composers. I hear his latest film is by Jayachandran.
Fazil has always worked with various composers in Mallu films while for Tamil films he stuck with Raaja TMK.Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano
Oh fine! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
even Kannukkul Nilavu was not good
Sanjeevi,
Kannukul Nilavu not good - padama.. paata..
Padam vandha podhu enakum pidikavilai.
last month , tv la parthen.
Nejama nalla padam. Beautiful BGMS......
Nalla padam. Nalla BGMS... Nalla Paatukal............
IPo mudinja indha padam parunga......
Fazil seems to have lost his touch and never given any hits in the last 10-12 years..In Tamil the last hit should be "Kathulukku Maryadei"?? In Mal it was a flop parade for the past 14 years! Aniyathi pravu(mal version of KM) was the last genuine hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Music wise he tries with many composers in malayalam,with Ausepachan being his pet mostly....
the picturization of Kajraho :banghead: :banghead: Fazil could NOT do a worse picturization than this..Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano
Apart from Vaali himself that is...(judging by the same audio).....Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano
@prashanth - u've got a nice blog going there...
Good work!! and enjoying watching movies!!!
Hmmm :DQuote:
Originally Posted by prashanth12
Nice profile pic! :thumbsup: