IR's composing technique

njv, not even close :-)

njv:

I agree. the first lines are very close. "Neramidhu Neramidhu" and "Sngeidhane Snegidhane" starts are very similar.

njv,kr,

similarity illeengO...minjippOnA, oru word -mhoom, oru syllable- that will be there between any songs of same meter...

Please focus on Raja's techniques...kindly refrain from bringing other musicians here...:-)

Raaja's tech in film music nu oru phd yae seiyalam.Avar niraiya options la seidhu irupar.Hero vai base panni avaroda composing style irukum.
For Rajani, Kamal,Karthick,Mohan,Ramarajan - Ivaragalai manadhil vaithu songs and bgm oru form il irukum.
Anal nichayam repetition irukadhu.Nichayam nadikum hero vin style or story il repetition irukum.Ana IR songs and bgm il repetition irukadhu.Anal andha hero vukana touch irukum.
Adhil Mohan have had a very good opportunity!!!! All mohan films are hit in nos.Songs are marvellous in all his movies.
IR composing nalayae Ramarajanum mohanaum nadipadhu pol thonrum.
Storyai base panni isai amaitha IR GREAT aaga irupar!!!!
Angae pudhu IR ai pakkalam!!!!
this is my opinion about IR composing.Ana subjecta pesa therijavanga pl sollunga.Kekkarom!!!
Kiru contiune ur class!!! i try to learn something!!! Kekkara songai indha madhiri info voda kekkum podhu new dimension kedaikaradhu!!!! I like it.

Tvsankar - I can immediately point out that Kamal's movies had a distinct arrangement/instrumentation, heavily leaning towards percussion innovation, heavy (very heavy) bass lines, especially the mid 80s Kamal movies

with come back with more observations later

was listening to idayam oru kovil (IR version) title song. Till now I have heard only the SPB version but today heard the IR version and was totally taken back!What a difference.

Amazing violin orchestation including veena and flute interludes.
Note the fast violin interludes just before the start of the 1st charanam
Then when IR sings looks like his voice is complemented with some instrument (basso?).All along the charanam,great tabla accompaniments.
Before the start of the 2nd charanam,female humming, followed with tabla and shehnai..
Again IR's voice is complemeneted with this instrument similar to 1st charanam.This is where IR's voice peaks...
Then follows shehanai..and fast violin interludes (which seems to be portraying a climax scene)...
Note the 3rd charanam,this time IR's voice is accompanied with violin interludes...again IR's voice peaks...
Towards the end of the song..amazing violin interludes reach a high pitch and the composition ends there (on a high note)...

Here's the IR version in coolgoose:
http://www.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=170816

tvshankar:all said and done,thalaivar
herokku etha matri
story line ku etha matri
situation ku etha matri

paatu amaippar and timeperiod ku etha matri orchestration arrange pannirukkirar.....

the early 80's had emphasis on guitar and violins (with a western touch),then came violins with tabla and flute..then came violins with synth combo etc..

for example
Different Heroes similar subject movies:kizhakku vasal,chinna thambi,chinna gounder,ejamaan
Outcome: there was some rustic/folk touch to all the songs but each song was noticably different...

Two hero movie:agni natchatiram
Outcome: totally classly music in the 80s(oru new generation ku music amicha matri irundadu)

Same hero, different movies:vikram,kakichattai,punnagai mannan
Outcome: Situation and story line resulted in a varied set..but still all had bayangra techno BGMs)

(my 2 kaasu)...

In the latest interview to Kumudam, IR reiterates what we have discussed a few pages back on this thread...He confirms that for a film, the director is in-charge and if he is knowledgeable, a good song results...From his statement about sahAna, atANA and the illustration of dOsai / idiyAppam, it's quite clear that `exacting team lead' influences the composer to a great extent...

In the same interview,when he told about TIS, he mentioned about two things.
1.Dedicatin.2.Kaala pramaanam.
Angae start aradhu IR in composing tech.He applied these two things from his first movie annakali and still now he is doing!!
Expression of the feelings!!!!!!!!!!
He is the king still now!!!!!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tamil/highlight...songs.shtml#38

This celebrates that there's no technique that IR hasn't explored...(avar payanpaduththAdha uththi illai)

appadi irukkumpOthu entha `composing technique'ai cholvathu, edhai viduvadhu...