Comments on Outlook article & other TiS criticisms

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

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What about Lord Shiva Who himself is a Marijuana addict about whom IR/Manickavasagar praises in TIS. Hope IR Finds time to say that Lord shiva Is a garbage :)

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Yenna Rajasaranam, neengathaan sivanukku potlam kodutheengala. Chumma naathigangara perula yedhavena sollalaamnu ninaikatheenga.

Hi app_engine,
Please read my post again. I didn't suppot drug addiction as well as personal habits well known poets and writers. Personally myself is a stern non-smoker.

I can quote the words of Jaykanthan about marijuana and attach lots of web links to show how many so called spiritual seekers including famous gurus use this. It all doesn't mean such acts can be justified. But I can certainly say that Bob Marley whole hearted wish is much beyond promoting marijuana.

I accept that the religious sect "RASTAFARIANS", which Marley subscribed to, use marijuana for the so-called elevated spritual level to communicate with so-called God. The same is common among many sufi sects, Tibetian buddhism and Tantric hinduism. If I write details about usage of this marijuana in various religious sects, this post will become too big and entirely out of the subject of current thread. But I also accept your calling of promoting such mind control plant as trash. But unfortunately many religious beliefs also fall in to this category.

Then, I request you to check the following web site, if you have some time.

http://www.hoboes.com/html/Politics/...uana12000.html

http://www.puffmama.ca/articles/hist2.html

Hi Kavin,
regarding Live-8 and its effectiveness, we can discuss in separate thread. I will provide my views whenever I have some spare time.

Hi All,
The following is one of the best web article, comparing Bob Marley's music and IR. You may all reject Saru Nivedita who wrote this article as useless dust and ignornet self drum beat because of his other articles againt TIS, just read this article to understand the life of Bob Marley and his music.
http://www.charuonline.com/kp152.html

My take on Charu and Gnani's post against Thiruvasakam

http://ursmusically.blogspot.com/200...kam-album.html

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What about Lord Shiva Who himself is a Marijuana addict about whom IR/Manickavasagar praises in TIS. Hope IR Finds time to say that Lord shiva Is a garbage Smile
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RS,
idhu enna pudhu kadhai...I just want to know who supplies marijuana to Lord Shiva, idhu enda e v ramasamy oda varisu avuthuvutta kadhai ??...Nonsense!!

illaadha, karpanayaana sivan kanja kudichcha enna illa thanni adichchaa enna?

so aathiganOda sivan kanja kudichcha naathiganOda thooimayaana mahaangaL kuduikanumaa illa kanja kudichchaa thappu illangara maadhiri paattu paadalaama?

but there should be some limit to all these idiocy. All these crappy talks that IR told correctly or IR committed blasphemy by talking about them and all base their premise on some crooked fellow twisted one word of what IR told and some drunkard idiots wrote something based on that.

read rosavasanth's blogspot for correct details.

kupps,
wud appreciate if you give a pointer to that blogspot.

I cannot comment on bob marley, for I haven't listened to those "trash" as Raja put it (only instance was when I listened to buffalo soldier when someone said Deva copied this number, and I didn't bother to listen to it fully) If bob marley did indeed promote drugs, the whole "good-intent" of his is nullified...what 'upliftment' are we talking about here when you ask ur followers to spend their money on drugs??

r_kk,
If you are promoting bob marley using charu's blogs, U've lost it! think about someone worth his salt talking about bob marley or whoever.

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I accept that the religious sect "RASTAFARIANS", which Marley subscribed to, use marijuana for the so-called elevated spritual level to communicate with so-called God. The same is common among many sufi sects, Tibetian buddhism and Tantric hinduism.But unfortunately many religious beliefs also fall in to this category.

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These kind of cults do come and go every now and then (remember heaven's gate ??)
None of the religions that have survived the change in times have subscribed to these ideas (hinduism, christianity and islam in their purest forms haven't got anything to do with these beliefs)

Hi sureshmehcnit,
The web link you had given again takes to the another bloc of IR forum. Most of them equate Gnani (X) and Saru (Y) as dogs barking against Sun (IR). For an IR fan, IR may be sun and others may be just X and Y or garbage. But for a Jamican or fan of African music, Bob Marely might be the sun. For the supprssed people of Andra, Gadder might be the sun. So the term "Sun" is very relative. Saru or Ganani might not have done great achivement or have great fame what IR have through his commercial music. It doesn't mean that whatever they had written are nonsence and should be rejected. Just leave aside the achivement of X and Y and look in to what they are telling. If possible, place a counter argument or request IR to give a single statement (note-1) against the outlook article.

(Note 1: still I doubt whether IR really meant it or not, whether he knows sure about what he was talking to Outlook reporter Anand, whether first all he knows about Marely or Gadder or not)

Hi Shankar,
Please check the Hasish usage among Indian spiritual seekers and find the mythical stories behind it.
http://lankawatchdog.org/hemp.htm

Have you ever tasted the "bhang" milk during Holi festival. If you tell yes, then you may loose the credit to talk against marijuana.

http://www.holifestival.org/tradition-of-bhang.html

For Marijuana usage in other major beliefs, please refer the following
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/culture/

r_kk: personally i do feel that IR should not have said like that. It is one of the biggest mistake he has commited in recent times. by giving statements like these, he is contradicting himself. he has said many times that "all music are same, no music is inferior to the other" then i don't know why he himself criticizes other forms of music and its creators.

Regd my blog, i wrote against charu and gnani mainly becasue they wrote bad agianst Thiruvasakam which is a great music compostion. In case of opposition against IR for his statement in the outlook interview i am very much on Charu and Gnani's side.

hope you understood my stand