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Originally Posted by selvakumar

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Hello SSelvakumar,

If I am to discuss a chart, I need complete birth data . I work using my research software and it is easy for me to discuss without usingf a hard copy.

Nichiro

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Sorry Nichiro.. I don't have the exact DOB and other details. :(

BTW, If you know any such case, then you can post the same here and you can provide us lot of information onthe same ! :D

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From the available data, we understand the Lagna as THULA.

The Time of Birth, Date and Place are the important Basic-data.. to cast a Horoscope. At least we must know the Birthstar if not the Time.

However we can work on the reverse and cast the whole Horoscope ... even without any Birth-data...

...if and when the person has reached about 15 yrs age... with adequate events and family-background as the Basic-data..

... such as Father, Mother, Brothers Sisters... and Events of the person's past life.

Can Mr. Selvakumar... put forth such data in detail... for the above- quoted person?

One of my several Typical Experiences...

One Boy's Horoscope was differing by the two Systems of Dhruk- Ganitha and Vaakya.!

Which One to be considered for Marriage-tally?.. because Budha was Neecha at 7th... the Kalhathra-Sthanam ...

...while He was at the 6th House in another Horoscope!.

Then my Astrologer called for the detailed Family-background and the past events ...

...and finally arrived at one particular Horoscope only.. out of the Two
as Correct...

..since that only TALLIES fully...with the Past events as well as the Propensities of the person... apart from the comparative 6th and 7th Bhavas... which were different as per those Horoscopes.

Same strategy can be applied here.
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The following are the scientifically established data on planetary motions and their orbital periods.

Planet/Orbital Period (Earth Years)
Mercury/0.24
Venus/0.62
Earth/1
Mars/1.88
Jupiter/11.88
Saturn/29.46
Uranus/84.01
Neptune/164.79
Pluto/247.91

Which creates the following three odd situations.

1) It will take millions and millions of years before any six or above number of planets can occupy the same orbital positions with respect to each other. One of them would be, all planets aligned on a single projected line.

2) There are 4.35456 million possible combinations of the planetary positions within any 30 degrees sector of the Earth's orbit.

The above two prove that it is next to impossible for one to predict anything based on planetary positions, in one's own life time.

3) The effects of planetary positions and the consequences of the sum total of all karmic deeds are at odds against each other.

From the above three, it clearly follows that:

a) The theory of karma is false
b) Any predictions of one's life based on astrological data are absolutely humbug
c) The theory of karma and astrological predictions contradict each other, completely nullifying the effects of each other.
d) Lots of contradicting fiddle factors are employed to rescue each of them
:) :thumbsup:

Rohit,

Thanks for the information. I will not contest your understanding.
Now I f you would allow us , we would like to proceed ahead with our Humbug.

Nichiro

Sorry Sudhamma sir, I don't know much about that horoscope.

I do agree with the difference that one can observe between VAAKYA and the other method.
Unfortunately I don't have any information on that !

For further discussions, I am not sure how to proceed. Let us have a plan on the same as per Nichiro. Nichiro can give lot of information based on his experience with relevant examples. I guess :?

If not, We can anlalyse the horoscopes of famous people. We can analyse the same based on information that we know !

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Rohit,

Thanks for the information. I will not contest your understanding.
Now I f you would allow us , we would like to proceed ahead with our Humbug. Nichiro

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Well-said Mr. Nichiro.

When there are Atheists too in the contemporary world... who dispute even on the existence of God...

...despite the Great Scientist Dr Aienstene was a Staunch believer of existence of the Suprelative -Might.. so called God...

...there is NO WONDER... there also exists the Non-believers of anything and everything even if it be Scientific....

...and their belief is that the ASTROLOGY IS A HUMBUG...!!!. Well let them infer whatever they feel like.

We are NOT INTERESTED TO DISPUTE NOR ARGUE... and Waste our time anymore... in that Mono-logical direction...

...with such people... the Non-believers of this Great God- given Occult- Science ...

... nor on that Rudimentary-factor...which has already been dealt at length, in the initial stage of this thread itself.

Dear Nichiro and other friends, please don't get discouraged on such diversions and DRY DISPUTES.

Please proceed ahead...from where we have left the Thread.

Lord RAMA'S HOROSCOPE..!!!...???

Lord Rama's Horoscope is herebelow. ..which corroborates with His Life events as per Ramayana...

...including His Married Life....PITIABLE...because of the placement of Guru in Lagna...

...Kalhathra-karaka Sani with Kethu,

...who also is aspected by Guru's 5th view...


And the Most important Phenomena!...

If a Ucha-Graha aspects another Ucha-Graha... both the Gruha-Bhavas are DEFEATED towards the Opposite and Negative effect...

...Kalhathra and Lagna... has thus been WEAKENED.... making His Married Life...MISERABLE..

....even though IMPECCABLE HUSBAND & WIFE of EMULATIVE VALUES!

... and further?

http://www.indianodysseys.com/gis/gis_bastro6.asp
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Originally Posted by Sudhaama

Lord RAMA'S HOROSCOPE..!!!...???

http://www.indianodysseys.com/gis/gis_bastro6.asp
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Here are the general things that can be observed from the horo:

1) MARS is exalted and is exactly in the 7th House. Also, in the Navamsha too.. Which forms "VARGOTTAM" (Not sure abt spelling) If a planet is depleted in the RASI, but forms a VARGOTTAM, then it attains the power of EXALTATION.. That is the power of VARGOTTAM.

VARGOTTAM

If a planet occupies the same position in both RASI and NAVAMSHA, then it forms VARGOTTAM.. Here it attains the power of EXALTATION state.

- Here MARS is both exalted and forms VARGOTTAM
- GURU is also in exalted state and forms VARGOTTAM
- MOON too.. One more thing is MOON is in its own house. (cancer) and forms VARGOTTAM
- ASC too... People with this combination tend to be more honest, idle and they are prone for their domination and leading a disciplined life by sticking to their own principles. NO wonder he is known for the title "AEGA PATHNI VIRATHAN"

Sudhamma sir,
- One more thing here is : The 7th house is aspected by both KETU AND SANI.. As we discussed, SANI destroys the houses that he aspect. Plus SATURN aspects MARS here. KETU too (3rd).
-GURU (6th house lord which is prone for enemies, sufferings aspects the 7th house)
-KALATHRA KARKA VENUS is in ARIES.. which is not good.. This one brings problems in marriage life, sufferings and others. Importantly losing self-esteem and respect coz of females.

P.S: Again, KALATHRA KARKA VENUS is in its own house in NAVAMSHA and with SATURN (7th house lord). It should be noted here that SATURN is in exalted state in NAVAMSHA

One more confusion:

Sometime back, I saw RAMA's horo.. there I saw SATURN in 6th house in RAASI :confused2:

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SANI in 5th or 6th... in RAMA's Horoscope?

// Sudhamma sir, //

Dear Mr. Selvakumar... Neither I am AMMA ...Nor "Sudhamma"... Nor SUDHA...

...But only "SUDHAAMA" here... another name of KUCHELA.

// The 7th house is aspected by both KETU AND SANI.. As we discussed, SANI destroys the houses that he aspect. Plus SATURN aspects MARS here. KETU too (3rd).//

Yes...You are Correct...by taking Sani's placement as at the 5th House... Poorva PUNHYA Sthanam plus PUHTHRA Sthanam.

// One more confusion: Sometime back, I saw RAMA's horo.. there I saw SATURN in 6th house in RAASI //

If it were at the 6th... let us imagine how and far different it would have been.! Can it tally with the Realities?

Sixth is the SATHRU-Sthanam, also concerned with ROGA,(Diseases), RUNA(Debts)

If Sani were there...Rama's Life would have been totally different. How?

3rd, 6th, 8th and 12th are Bad Houses. Even good planets placed there. become weak or even negative depending on other related factors. And the Bad-planets if placed become worse.

The Owner-planets of these houses if placed in such houses other than their own...

...they gain the Opposite-power and thus become Good... a VAKRA-YPGA (Kettavan kettidil kittidum Raja-yogam)

So to say.... (-) x (-) = (+). Thus Sani there at "Dhanus" would have changed the whole Ramayana.

Besides 1st, 5th and 9th are THRI-KONA Sthanas... So to say LAKSHMI-STHANAS. Only because the Kalhathra-karaka Sani is placed at the 5th (Thrikona-Sthana) Rama could have an UNPARALLELLY IMMACULATE and Loyal Wife... exemplary to the Eternal Society. If he were at the 6th? ... He would have got a Nagging wife, with constant misunderstanding and Non-co-operation

Because Sani owns the 7th the Kalhathra Sthanam alongside the 8th the House... concerned with Difficulties, Accidents, Obstacles, SHAME and Separation... Lord Rama suffered much because of His wife...

...leading to separation for a part of the period not only when he was in forest but also after He got enthroned

...finally got separation... by the wife leaving Him of Her own accord.

The 8th bhava "Shame" at the 5th... made Rama to face UNDUE-SHAMEFUL outcome...

(1) Kaikeyi His Foster-mother herself... sent Him to forest... an Undue- Shame.

(2) On the same day fixed for Coronation... turned into a matter of Shame... by making Him not only lose the Throne, but also lose His mundane pleasures too... the diametrically opposite outcome... of SHAMEFUL FATE.

(3) By deceipt he lost His wife to a Robberer... causing Him an undue SHAME.

(4) Samudra-Raja ignored His prayer... an Insult and matter of Undue SHAME.

Besides one of the Karakathvam for Sani being... that He is the DESTINY-MAKER. for any Person.

So it is the Destiny (Pre-planned Life-Schedule) which got linked with His 5th, Punhya-Sthanam of Mars, the Warrior-planet...

...as also by Sani's aspecting Mars at Sani's own house which led Him to Wars and Battles all through His life...

...which ULTIMATELY BROUGHT HIM GLORY... due to interlink with Yoga- sthanam 5th.

If Sani were at the 6th all these would have been negated due to the Contrary bhavas of 7th and 8th...

....interlinked with the Negative House 6th... instead of the Positive 5th.

Further, Sani being the maker of Male-children... placed at Puthra-sthanam, 5th...

...Rama got Lava-Kusa as the Glorious Twin-Sons.

And because of Sani with one of the Bhavas of 8th as... SEPARATION .. linked with Puthra-Sthanam too!...

... Rama lived in separation from His Childen also.

Thus in this case, it is asserted.. "SANI AT THE 5TH HOUSE".. only can be Correct.
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ok btw my DOB: 12/08/1993

my first number is : 3
my second number is : 6

do 3's ( me at the mo) get along with number 5's?????

5 is the first number in tht case

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Originally Posted by Tia

ok btw my DOB: 12/08/1993

my first number is : 3
my second number is : 6

do 3's ( me at the mo) get along with number 5's?????

5 is the first number in tht case

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Dear Friend,

Your Question totally is related with NUMEROLGY... and Astrology has no concern.

For NUMEROLOGY, there exists a Separate Thread...exclusively.

Quoted herebelow:---

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...9b9cccc8c810f5

Will you please raise this question there?... and Delete this posting here?
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