Late brother-- means who? Gangai Amaran? Or Pavalar? What film is this?
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Late brother-- means who? Gangai Amaran? Or Pavalar? What film is this?
Pavalar - movie is not named yet. I was hoping that he will do for Kamal or his own story (for which he has been trying to find a producer_.
BTW its Pavalar.
Come-on Nitya, Gangai amaran is not 'late' yet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitya
NagaS
Ah good. That's a relief.
IR's 1000th film? I doubt that. I think he is atleast a 100 movies short of 1000th.
Remember Kamal announced Hey!Ram to be IR's 735th & 736th movies or 835th and 836th movies? I cannot point out beyond about 20 films of IR after Hey!Ram to till date.
I was in for quite a surprise when I saw Mumbai Express songs available at Music India Online tonight. My first impression was, now here's a different side of Ilayaraja. No raaga-based folky songs. Instead the songs are jazzy, as I have read from other folks, and I like jazz, so I am satisfied with the end product. But be warned, these songs won't appeal to everybody.
Nitya wrote:
Already our good friend vijayr has proven this statement of yours in the Mumbai Express thread.Quote:
But be warned, these songs won't appeal to everybody.
surprising tech stuff from IR. Mumbaixpress songs r basically kadi songs with each song extending to more than 5 minutes.
Most of the tunes sound very familiar (so they dont sound fresh) and they get boring after a while......
this is the first IR album which sounded totally crap (like ARR's Love Birds) - too much tech stuff with very familiar tunes and unnecessary dialogues in between.
Very surprising to see how Kamal actually Okayed these songs.
Mumbai Express is very disapointing in many aspects.
A. This year raised big expectations for all ilayaraja fans, because of mumbai express, Balu mahendras ATHU ORU KANAA KALAM , fazils ORU NAAL ORU KANAVU , thiruvasagam in symphony, moods of ilayaraja and all. The first wicket has gone for a duck. Hope the rest salvage the situation.
B. The general impression that i gathered from ilayarajas scores in the recent years was that he is no more motivated enough to give good scores for mediocre movies with similar , repetetive situations, but he reserved the best for movies from good directors like Balu mahendra, fazil or bala.It is sad he cannot compose even a decent score for a good creative director like kamal, which makes me wonder, if there is any point in stretching his career
C. I dont understand the rationale of kamal while making and marketing this album. First of all , four songs in a cassette is too little(although two more similar songs would just have prolonged the torture). Nobody is going to buy a cassette for just four songs. The sensible thing would have been to have atleast six songs and use only four songs in the movie. And the fact that three out of four songs do not even qualify to be called as listenable songs, is too disappointing.The music is not yet available in shops , which nullifies the use of music as an introduction to the movie. The music is now available free online and after listening to this , i dont think anybody is going to buy the cassette at all. Kamal has managed to achieve a big loss from the jaws of near certain success.
D. It is easy to delude ourselves by the argument that it is jazz music and it will grow upon us,but we all know that it is not the truth. The songs suck big time.I agree that there are jazz elements in the song, but they do not enhance the song in any way.
E. I wonder, where hungarian orchestra was used in the album, and if they were used, what was the necessity. There were no elements of orchestral music in the whole album.
F. Some people make the stupid argument that all his songs are great and the songs which we feel are not good are because they are too complicated to be understood by ordinary folks. Nothing can be further from the truth. All the songs cannot be treated in the same way. We like the great songs of ilayaraja and we also know many songs which are ordinary. As a composer he is entitled to make music the way he wants and it is our right to have our own likes and dislikes.
G. Thiruvasagam is going to be another painful disappointment. A product nees to have commerical or creative viability for it to enter market. from the beginning there wre no tkaers for the project. I donated 500 dollars for the project, just because of my affection for the Maestro.But i never had any illusion about the success of the project. A project which needs donation from the fans, which needs fans for marketing and distribution and bought by the fans, is not a viable project.The fact that there was no music company willing to make it is ample proof. Remember, ilayarja has scored more than 800 movies and many non film albums. None of them involved raising money or marketing by fans. they sold by their merit. that is how a creative product must be sold.
Although as an ilayaraja fan it pains me to say this, i think it is high time that ilayaraja retires from film music. When he cant motivate himself. His recent failures will only manage to take away the sheen of his brilliant early works in the late seventies and eighties
Finally, one honest review of MX! Honest, from my perspective of course. If someone else likes it, I've no issues with it. Obviously.
BTW, there are couple of more trashes by ARR ala Love Birds - Mr Romeo, for instance. Wonder what he was thinking while composing for that one.
Now, I have no intention of starting another war here, but would like to know the comparitive use of Jazz (so-called!) in MX (IR) and Kaadhal Virus/ Iruvar (ARR). The assumption here is that both have used their own interpretations of jazz to suit Tamil audiences. I DO NOT want to know who did better (in terms of an opinion), but who succeeded in bringing out this genre better, within the parameters of film music! I'm sure we coud take up some other IR song that has jazz influences for such comparison - if MX isnt considered the best example.