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I asked the same. Their answer was GoSL has no other option and the people who support the terrorists will be treated this way only. :banghead: :banghead: Idhula vikraman pada vasanam vera. "Kaal punnagi poi romba mosamaana, adhai vettaradhai thavira vera vazhi illa" :xQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
I stopped arguing with them after this response.
PR,
I was going to say that. Tank Yu. Prabhakaran might also be seen as someone who has killed a considerable number of civilians but that's not his intention (unlike..). Never, AFAIK, IMHO.
There will be always peoples or groups who accept their slavery. Historically the time is not yet ripe for rightful demands of Colombo--Kandy/Muslim Tamils. The North-Eastern Tamils have always excluded these ethnic groups from their demands.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
He has done it intentionally too many a times :huh: Fascism has to be seen in a comparative state only. VP is better in comparison to GosL - Avvalave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
I wouldn't be too sure of that eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
elobarate pls...Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Joe,Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
I'm not saying they are not aware of it, or lack knowledge about it. My point is that, I think it's not being considered as seriously it should be. However please note that I am NOT really well informed on this subject... So please spank my head gently if I'm not making sense!
Well, one important thing before I try to explain where I come from. Like I said above, I am NOT well informed about the conflict there (and even less so about the history) either. I must admit that some of my understandings are quite "intuitive" even (that is, resulting out of my trying to figure out how it'd have happened). So if I'm way off the mark, please pardon my ignorance. And I hope well-informed hubbers would clarify about the errors in my reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
As far as I know, the Sinhalese-Tamil conflict originated from the power struggle between the elite of Sinhalese and Tamils as the Sinhalese tried to marginalise the presence of Tamils in the bureaucracy and in general in politics. The early Sinhalese governments (post-independence) of course took drastic steps to achieve their end. One of which was stripping the estate Tamils (bonded labourers who were taken by the Britsh to Sri Lanka to work on tea plantations) off their citizenship. And subsequently there were multiple attempts to send them back to India. SL govt. had multiple agreements with the Indian govt. to arrive at some middle-ground (part of the population would stay, and the rest would be sent back over a time period). Much of this didn't happen, but these estate Tamils continued to live without the basic rights. Wikipedia informs that "[it] was not until 2003 that full citizenship rights were restored to the remaining Tamils in the hill country."
Now, I imagine the interests of these people (the Indian Tamils) all along would have greatly differed from those of the Sri Lankan Tamils. That's why I said that it's crucial to differentiate between the two.
Do you mean to compare cluster bombing etc. which was meant to get rid of a large chunk of a *race* to what prabhakaran's been trying to achieve? And IIRC he himself explained his intentions in that famous sun TV interview.
When a 'Fascist' Govt of SL started off its intentional exclusion and pogroms against the Tamil people of the Eelam, It had its roots in ethnic supremacy and majoritarianism. It was also a backlash against Jaffna tamil elitism which was non-violent in nature. (Intha Ina/Mozhi/Jaathi perumitham irukkaey athu oru thani topic'a alasanum). GoSL took some drastic measures through constitutionally asserting their supremacy over tamils and lawfully excluding tamils from gaining significant ratio in economy. This led to protests by tamils which were suppressed by Govt. Sanctioned violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Prabhakarans beginning was not Fascistic in nature. He was a youth with lot of questions against these oppression of his people. Having lots and lots of courage and inclination towards Adventurism & Heroism. After he took up the cause of Tamil people and slowly his organisation grew, fascistic and dictatorship like attitudes also creeped in himself and the LTTE. There were atleast 15 to 20 groups fighting for the cause of tamils, LTTE by intimidating and killing the other groups, emerged as the single voice for oppressed Tamil. (India had a bigger hand in sprucing up these Gang Wars) They reasoned out saying that 'peoples struggle should not be split into various organisations and it is better to be under a single baton to win the war against GoSL.' However true this seems, the methods used for this was fascistic in nature. All dissents were silenced within and outside the organisation. Forceful recruitments, extortions, money laundering, drug trafficking - what not, every possible means were used to keep up the cause and fight for tamil Eelam going by 'Ends justify means'.
This is where I say Both are Fascists and in a comparative mode LTTE seems better than GoSL, as the formers goal was freedom for their people and the later's goal was ethnic cleansing of their people.
hey thanks RS.......but can i extend this to compare for example - Modi's fascism (gujarat carnage) and congress's fascism (anti-sikh riots) and conclude the less harmful there? i just wanted to know if we can extend this idea to a larger picture, bcos i found this phrase interesting...... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam