Kamalhassan's Ideology in his films

sathya, I am tired of repeating myself. andha allegation allegationAvE irukku. modhall it was that, then it was something else, then it was cross kappathudhu, ipdi pala sambandham illAdha noolai kOrthu Kalyan kEkkarArnu solrEn.

EdhAvadhu oNNai theLivA eduthukittu one by one point pOgalAmA? marubadiyum naan kashtapatt pala post pOttavuNE convenientA pudhusa oru "cross kappaathudhu" pointla digress paNNa kUdadhu(You didnt but you didnt participate much) okayvA?

Kamal kitta enna anti brahmin prachnai. Allegation solliyAchu. Chargesheet eduthu vaingappA -apram pEsalAmngarEn.
ok, nAn help pandren

Crime # 1
1) Not Speaking against All Groups

idhai pathi mattum pEsi mudivukku vandhutu adutha crime-ku pOvOmA?

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Originally Posted by Plum

sathya, I am tired of repeating myself. andha allegation allegationAvE irukku. modhall it was that, then it was something else, then it was cross kappathudhu, ipdi pala sambandham illAdha noolai kOrthu Kalyan kEkkarArnu solrEn.

EdhAvadhu oNNai theLivA eduthukittu one by one point pOgalAmA? marubadiyum naan kashtapatt pala post pOttavuNE convenientA pudhusa oru "cross kappaathudhu" pointla digress paNNa kUdadhu(You didnt but you didnt participate much) okayvA?

Kamal kitta enna anti brahmin prachnai. Allegation solliyAchu. Chargesheet eduthu vaingappA -apram pEsalAmngarEn.
ok, nAn help pandren

Crime # 1
1) Not Speaking against All Groups

idhai pathi mattum pEsi mudivukku vandhutu adutha crime-ku pOvOmA?

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Plum, I think u missed my last line (Start from parotta No:1) :D

Everbody here know the facts / ideologies / crimes by every other group (Atleast at high level, if not in detail), including one's own group. Hindu / Brahmin'sa avar kuttram kurai solradhaalayo / uyarvaa pEsaradhaalayo oNNum maarida poradhilla. Every individual and every group will have their own share of good deeds and bad deeds.

No group (Atheists, Religious Groups, Right Wing, Left Wing, Eagle Wing etc) is 100% perfect. Aanaa, speaking openly abt one and NOT CONDEMNING OTHERS WITH SAME VIGOR, TONE, LEVEL ETC doesn't cut much ice.

Ennoda theruvula 10 thirudan irundhaa, ellaarum thirudannu solra dhairiyam irundhaa naan oru nErmayaaLan. 2 pEra mattum mEdai pottu thittittu (Open Statements in interviews / Dialogues in movies / Public mockery .....), maththa 8 pErayum veetukkuLa ukkaandhuttu enakku naane thittittu irundhaa (Subtlety, covert message, hidden portrayal ......) angadhaan prachanai.

Plum, my points were never digressive (Please revisit if you have time and patience). I was just stressing and re-iterating on one point.

Ok, that is a very generic statement. Now, illustrate with
1) Examples from his Movies(relevant only for this point - this means "implying that Christian God is powerful" mAdhiri examples solla padAdhu :-) ) where he has <u> Mocked at Specific Brahmin Practices </u>. adhu ennannu modhalla analyse paNNuvOm
2) I understand that the other grouse is his speeches against Brahmins. What? When? How?
3) What specific practices(similar to the ones he criticised brahmins on) that you want him to critcise others?
Why because usually this point is made and then an aggregation of unrelated examples are used as illustration - a poor technique that doenst cut much ice with me.

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Originally Posted by sathya_1979

Plum, my points were never digressive (Please revisit if you have time and patience). I was just stressing and re-iterating on one point.

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No I got that. I mentioned you didnt discuss much anyway. My point is that an aggregation of multiple grouses against his various views truns into a generic statement like what you said. I want to get to the bottom of it.

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Originally Posted by Plum

Ok, that is a very generic statement. Now, illustrate with
1) Examples from his Movies(relevant only for this point - this means "implying that Christian God is powerful" mAdhiri examples solla padAdhu :-) ) where he has <u> Mocked at Specific Brahmin Practices </u>. adhu ennannu modhalla analyse paNNuvOm
2) I understand that the other grouse is his speeches against Brahmins. What? When? How?
3) What specific practices(similar to the ones he criticised brahmins on) that you want him to critcise others?
Why because usually this point is made and then an aggregation of unrelated examples are used as illustration - a poor technique that doenst cut much ice with me.

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ennoda Class XII or Engineering examsla kooda naan indha maadhiri questions paaththadhilla :lol:

Covering 1&2:
I could not recollect the date of interview / channel / magazine. But, I have witnessed him mock at the practise of wearing sacred thread (This is after year 2000).
This is just one example (oru sOru padham), Kalyan and Sakala may add more.

Reg: point 3 in ur question:
It's not abt the practices alone. But, attrocities suffered by Hindus at the hands of others. For more details, please refer Indian Histroy Books.

pArunga, specificA sollungannu kEttavuNE, I think, I cant remember exactlylAm varudhu pArthingaLA? ;-)

1. enna sonnAr?
2. Was it at a serious ideology level or at a "brahmin mami talk tease" level"

Reg. #3, atrocities suffered by Hindus at othersku appuram varuvOm. Now we are talking about insults to one community.

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Originally Posted by Plum

pArunga, specificA sollungannu kEttavuNE, I think, I cant remember exactlylAm varudhu pArthingaLA? ;-)

1. enna sonnAr?
2. Was it at a serious ideology level or at a "brahmin mami talk tease" level"

Reg. #3, atrocities suffered by Hindus at othersku appuram varuvOm. Now we are talking about insults to one community.

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10 varusham munnaadi kudutha interview date eppadinga nyaabagam irukkum?

Also, whether it is ideology level attack or mami level tease - What is the need? And does he have the guts to tease females from other communities? Adhudhaan ennoda kosteen.

If he is talking abt social evils of caste system and the wrong deeds by all castes, I welcome it. But, why mock at beliefs of a group which is no way impacting / insulting to others?

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Originally Posted by Anban

ridiculing religion is different from ridiculing ridiculing religious beliefs and practices which are extra-additions to the real thing..

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I don't agree with this Anban. Where does one really draw the line between religion and its practices/beliefs? Who is Kamal to decide these beliefs or practices or rituals are not important? Adhu avarukku venaa mukkiyam illainnu feel panalaam. Adhukaaga innum illtreating widows, etc etc maadhiri sila outdated concepts ellaatha pathiyum onnum solla koodadhunnu naan sollavarala. But by the Kamal's characters' jibes against religion, avaru adha patthi oru 'scientific' study pannavE illainnu theriyudhu. Why the concepts of astrology, rebirth, etc came up, why one places vermillion, etc etc, what ultimately is the necessity for God/religion, I believe he has simply shot down questions like these without attempting to know anything about them. Or atleast that is what I infer from his characters. This of course is an issue with most theists too, only they are on the other side.

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Kamal is the guy who wrote the lines "marumurai varuvathaai solli maainthavar vanthatheyy illai..."

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Aamam, idhu avaru eppadi theriyumaam? Eppadi vandha accept pannuvaaraam?

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