Chevalier Dr. Kamal Haasanin Mayyam - Part 9

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Originally Posted by Raajjaa

Thanks for the information karikalen.

தமிழகத்தில் இந்த படம் மிக பெரிய வெற்றியை பெறவில்லை. மதுரையில் குரு படம் குரு தியேட்டரில்(தியேட்டர் பேரும் குரு தான்) 100 நாட்கள் ஓடியது.

ஆனால் கமலின் திரை உலக வாழ்க்கையில் திருப்பு முனையான படம். இந்த திரைப்படத்தில் இருந்துதான் சிறுவர்கள் கமல் படத்தை விரும்பி பார்க்க ஆரம்பித்தனர்.

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Yes. This had the nan than unga appan da song, rite?
it was a craze among us...

அது ராம் லட்சுமண் படம்.

வட இந்தியாவில் படம் வெள்ளி விழா கொண்டாடியது என்று பேப்பரில் படித்த பொழுது அந்த விளம்பரத்தை பார்க்க ஆசை பட்டேன். இப்பொழுது நனவாகி இருக்கிறது.

மதுரையில் 45 நாட்கள் ஒடியது என்று நினைக்கிறேன்.

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Originally Posted by Raajjaa

அது ராம் லட்சுமண் படம்.

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yes yes.. got confused...

ஒரு விழாவில் நடிகர் திலகத்துடன் கமலஹாசன்

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1996ம் ஆண்டு குமுதம் தீபாவளி சிறப்பிதழில் பாலிவுட்டை கலக்கும் கமல் என cover story வந்து இருந்தது. அதில் TOP 10 பாலிவுட் ஹீரோக்களில் கமல் 4வது இடத்தில் இருந்தார். அப்பொழுது ஹிந்தியில் இந்தியன் படம் பட்டையை கிளப்பி கொண்டு இருந்தது.

பாலிவுட்டை கலக்கிய ஒரே தென்னிந்திய நடிகர் கமல் மட்டும் தான். இனிமேலும் வேறு யாராவது வருவதற்கும் அறிகுறி இல்லை.

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Thalaiver has okayed Lingu's own script itself for his next after thoongaavanam. So Lingu himself is directing thalaiver! Its titled "Mathi" and was written by lingu almost 10 years ago itself. It was then about to be produed by AM Ratnam but didnt happen.

If kamal has agreed means it shud be worthy! Of course he will either write dialog/screenplay or will heavily interfere and modify to make it his own! Hope Lingu gives a success as a director this time and thalai gives a commercial success to Lingu!!

Great news. I like this phase where we get to see 3 movies/year - all different variety.

Nice to hear that @Sakala, hope it is confirmed officially. Is this the one to compensate for UV, also would crazy be on board if it is a comedy?

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

Thalaiver has okayed Lingu's own script itself for his next after thoongaavanam. So Lingu himself is directing thalaiver! Its titled "Mathi" and was written by lingu almost 10 years ago itself. It was then about to be produed by AM Ratnam but didnt happen.

If kamal has agreed means it shud be worthy! Of course he will either write dialog/screenplay or will heavily interfere and modify to make it his own! Hope Lingu gives a success as a director this time and thalai gives a commercial success to Lingu!!

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this is great! but lingu suppose to direct SandzhaiKozli-2 ?

KamalHaasan's Box Office Prowess - An Analysis
This analysis of Kamal Haasan’s BO successes over the years is to serve as an eye opener for not only fans of Kamal Haasan but also other actors, people that calls themselves ‘industry trackers’ and analysts.
1971 – 1980
Kamal Haasan first established himself as the major star in the Malayalam Film Industry (MFI) with major hits like Madanatsavam, Eeta and others. Following his successes there, he planted a firm foot in the Tamil Film Industry during this period with monster hits like 16 Vayathiniley, KalyanaRaman and Sigappu Rojakkal were sandwiched by other major hits like Sattam En Kayil, Illamai Oonjalaadugirathu, Guru, Thayilamal Naanillai and Ram Lakshman amongst others.
In the same period, KH established himself as a major star in the Telugu Film Industry (TeFI) with the blockbuster hits like Sommakoduthi Sogakoduthi and Marocharitra. Aside from straight Telugu films, KH carved a huge market for himself with his dubbed Tamil films doing roaring business in AndhraPradesh.
KH was really riding the BO wave in 2 industries at the same time while continuing with his assault on MFI.
Other aspect of his BO successes was the emerging fan following for KH in Karnataka. Industry insiders used to wonder at his BO prowess that was truly spread across the whole of South India and admit that it was bigger than any other star had to that point including the legendary MGR.
His exalted star status during this period can be exemplified by these 2 instances –
1. KH was supposed to act in the remake of Yaadon Ki Baarat as one of the brothers and the initial ad said “Makkal Thilagam MGR and Kathal Ilavarasan Kamalahasan” inianthu nadikkum “Naalai Namathey”. For reasons not required now, it didn’t happen.
2. One more proof of his star status and fan following in the state of TN was the way MGR wooed KH to join the AIADMK. Their association grew from that and KH even had a song featured in late MSV’s Mangala Vaathyam, which referred to MGR and his party’s 2 leaves symbol (Vandina athu vandithaan, vaathyaru vandithan)
1981 – 1988
With South India truly conquered and under his domain, KH set his sights on the North of Vindyas and expanded his empire through the blockbuster Ek Duuje Ke Liye. For the first time ever, Indian cinema truly had an All India SuperStar in Kamal Haasan. As though the producers of Allavudeen and Arpudha Vilakku were prescient, they had advertised 1 year earlier in the popular Trade Guide magazine (featuring real box office numbers) saying “All India Super Star KamalaHasan in AAA”. It came true in 1981.
1982 started with the romantic tearjerker Vaazhvey Maayam. He topped VM in his next movie Moondram Pirai and even though both were super hits at the BO critics were claiming that KH might not command major success at BO. They were truly made to shut up with the astounding blockbuster that was Sakalakala Vallavan. TFI had never seen a movie become such a monstrous hit and that broke all previous records held. There was no questioning KH’s Super Star status anymore. He followed that with one of the classiest movies ever made in India with Sagara Sangamam, which turned out to be a monster hit in AP. More than any other movie, this gave KH the confidence that a classy movie can also set the cash registers ringing in a big way.
Blockbusters and Super Hits flowed like the river Cauvery of a bygone era across all languages in the form of Sanam Teri Kasam, Kakki Sattai, Swathi Muthyam, Saagar and whole host of others.
1989 – 1999
KamalHaasan broke all paradigms of commercial movie making with blockbuster hits like Aboorva Sagotharagal, Devar Magan, Indian, Avvai Shanmughi. Be it the use of available technology, novel way of story telling, retaining nativity KH showed his true mastery over the film medium which nobody before or after could achieve. For the first time, since KH took over the mantles from MGR and Sivaji, a true competitor emerged during this period with Rajinikanth having his first blockbuster hit in 1994 (Baasha).
Given the changing political trends in the state and KH avoiding politics like the plague and turmoil in his personal life sort of took a toll on his movie career in the next phase.
2000 – 2015
KamalHaasan made some memorable movies during this period like Hey Ram, Aalavandaan, Anbe Sivam and the recent Uttama Villain which did not achieve its potential at the BO. But he delivered stunning blockbusters with Tenali, Vettaiyadu Vilaiyadu, Dasavatharam, Vishwaroopam and Papansam.
To put all this into perspective, let us look at his contemporaries from different industries.
Tamil – Rajinikanth was a late bloomer at the BO and owed his success to the media but has been struggling massively to succeed on his own terms since his last genuine hit in 1999 (Padayappa)
Telugu – Chiranjeevi has long been forced into retirement
Malayalam – Mammooty and Mohalal are still around but they are limited in both what they can do on screen and their box office clout
Even though KamalHaasan started on his film career well before the above-mentioned contemporaries, he is still on top of his game calling the shots and making movies on his own terms while delivering hits at the BO.
This is the true story and extent of KamalHaasan’s BO potential that our present day “analysts” refuse to acknowledge while followers of younger stars is unaware.

little flashback, add this person in twiter JEEVAHASAAN@jeevahasaan.. the collection belongs to him..

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KamalHaasan's Box Office Prowess - An Analysis
This analysis of Kamal Haasan’s BO successes over the years is to serve as an eye opener for not only fans of Kamal Haasan but also other actors, people that calls themselves ‘industry trackers’ and analysts.
1971 – 1980
Kamal Haasan first established himself as the major star in the Malayalam Film Industry (MFI) with major hits like Madanatsavam, Eeta and others. Following his successes there, he planted a firm foot in the Tamil Film Industry during this period with monster hits like 16 Vayathiniley, KalyanaRaman and Sigappu Rojakkal were sandwiched by other major hits like Sattam En Kayil, Illamai Oonjalaadugirathu, Guru, Thayilamal Naanillai and Ram Lakshman amongst others.
In the same period, KH established himself as a major star in the Telugu Film Industry (TeFI) with the blockbuster hits like Sommakoduthi Sogakoduthi and Marocharitra. Aside from straight Telugu films, KH carved a huge market for himself with his dubbed Tamil films doing roaring business in AndhraPradesh.
KH was really riding the BO wave in 2 industries at the same time while continuing with his assault on MFI.
Other aspect of his BO successes was the emerging fan following for KH in Karnataka. Industry insiders used to wonder at his BO prowess that was truly spread across the whole of South India and admit that it was bigger than any other star had to that point including the legendary MGR.
His exalted star status during this period can be exemplified by these 2 instances –
1. KH was supposed to act in the remake of Yaadon Ki Baarat as one of the brothers and the initial ad said “Makkal Thilagam MGR and Kathal Ilavarasan Kamalahasan” inianthu nadikkum “Naalai Namathey”. For reasons not required now, it didn’t happen.
2. One more proof of his star status and fan following in the state of TN was the way MGR wooed KH to join the AIADMK. Their association grew from that and KH even had a song featured in late MSV’s Mangala Vaathyam, which referred to MGR and his party’s 2 leaves symbol (Vandina athu vandithaan, vaathyaru vandithan)
1981 – 1988
With South India truly conquered and under his domain, KH set his sights on the North of Vindyas and expanded his empire through the blockbuster Ek Duuje Ke Liye. For the first time ever, Indian cinema truly had an All India SuperStar in Kamal Haasan. As though the producers of Allavudeen and Arpudha Vilakku were prescient, they had advertised 1 year earlier in the popular Trade Guide magazine (featuring real box office numbers) saying “All India Super Star KamalaHasan in AAA”. It came true in 1981.
1982 started with the romantic tearjerker Vaazhvey Maayam. He topped VM in his next movie Moondram Pirai and even though both were super hits at the BO critics were claiming that KH might not command major success at BO. They were truly made to shut up with the astounding blockbuster that was Sakalakala Vallavan. TFI had never seen a movie become such a monstrous hit and that broke all previous records held. There was no questioning KH’s Super Star status anymore. He followed that with one of the classiest movies ever made in India with Sagara Sangamam, which turned out to be a monster hit in AP. More than any other movie, this gave KH the confidence that a classy movie can also set the cash registers ringing in a big way.
Blockbusters and Super Hits flowed like the river Cauvery of a bygone era across all languages in the form of Sanam Teri Kasam, Kakki Sattai, Swathi Muthyam, Saagar and whole host of others.
1989 – 1999
KamalHaasan broke all paradigms of commercial movie making with blockbuster hits like Aboorva Sagotharagal, Devar Magan, Indian, Avvai Shanmughi. Be it the use of available technology, novel way of story telling, retaining nativity KH showed his true mastery over the film medium which nobody before or after could achieve. For the first time, since KH took over the mantles from MGR and Sivaji, a true competitor emerged during this period with Rajinikanth having his first blockbuster hit in 1994 (Baasha).
Given the changing political trends in the state and KH avoiding politics like the plague and turmoil in his personal life sort of took a toll on his movie career in the next phase.
2000 – 2015
KamalHaasan made some memorable movies during this period like Hey Ram, Aalavandaan, Anbe Sivam and the recent Uttama Villain which did not achieve its potential at the BO. But he delivered stunning blockbusters with Tenali, Vettaiyadu Vilaiyadu, Dasavatharam, Vishwaroopam and Papansam.
To put all this into perspective, let us look at his contemporaries from different industries.
Tamil – Rajinikanth was a late bloomer at the BO and owed his success to the media but has been struggling massively to succeed on his own terms since his last genuine hit in 1999 (Padayappa)
Telugu – Chiranjeevi has long been forced into retirement
Malayalam – Mammooty and Mohalal are still around but they are limited in both what they can do on screen and their box office clout
Even though KamalHaasan started on his film career well before the above-mentioned contemporaries, he is still on top of his game calling the shots and making movies on his own terms while delivering hits at the BO.
This is the true story and extent of KamalHaasan’s BO potential that our present day “analysts” refuse to acknowledge while followers of younger stars is unaware.

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Throwing light on Kamal's achievements are well and good as he deserves each and every amount of praise for his contribution, but dwarfing and maligning his competitor's success (media creation, late bloomer etc.,) for the sake of glorifying his achievements is certainly not fair imho :)

Looks sharp and smart in this recent pic.

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Papanasam has entered 100 Crore Club - Producer confirmed officially :)

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Originally Posted by hattori_hanzo

Producers are Sri Priya and her husband right?

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And Suresh Balaje ..

ஒரு கைதியின் டைரி 100 நாளா? நம்ப முடியவில்லை.

இந்த மனுசன் தமிழ் நாடு,ஆந்திரா மட்டுமல்ல. பெங்களூரையும் ஒரு கலக்கு கலக்கி இருக்காருப்பா...

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ஒரு கைதியின் டைரி 100 நாளா? நம்ப முடியவில்லை.

இந்த மனுசன் தமிழ் நாடு,ஆந்திரா மட்டுமல்ல. பெங்களூரையும் ஒரு கலக்கு கலக்கி இருக்காருப்பா...

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Andha Oru நிமிடம், Uyarndha உள்ளம், Mangamma சபதம், Japanil கல்யாணராமன் - இவை கமலுடைய மொக்கை படங்கள் - சரியாக போகவில்லை - வசூல் ரீதியாக..

மத்தபடி அவர் ஒண்ணை அடுத்து இன்னொண்ணு hit குடுத்துட்டே தான் இருக்காரு.

நான் சொல்றது பெங்களூரில். கமலுக்கு பெரும்பாலான தமிழ் ஹிட் படங்கள் பெங்களூரிலும் ஹிட் ஆகி இருக்கிறது. மற்ற நடிகர்களுக்கு 1 or 2 படங்கள் 100 days ஒடி இருந்தாலே அதிசயம்.

சிகப்பு ரோஜாக்கள்-200 days,நாயகன்-175 days, அபூர்வ சகோதரர்கள்-175 days etc...

இந்த வருடத்தில் இருந்து 80s போல வருடத்திற்கு 3 படங்கள் கொடுத்தால் நன்றாக இருக்கும். வயசு 61 ஆகப் போகிறது.

Let's hope we hear something good on VR2. That + TV + potential Lingusamy movie would be a great line up.

அபஸ்வரமா ஒரு பாட்டு -(

நகத்தை கீருற மாதிரி ஒரு குரல் -((

ஆடவே வராம குலுக்கு குலுக்கி ஆடுற ஒரு நடிகை! - (((

திகில் முருகன் உடை அலங்காரம் செஞ்சா மாதிரி கமலுக்கு சொக்கா!! -)

சம்பந்தமே இல்லாம DRUMS உருட்டு உருட்டுன்னு உருட்டற மாதிரி காட்சி அமைப்பு -( - )

இதெல்லாம் கூட பொறுத்துக்கலாம் - ஆனா அந்த 'கோலா கோலா கோகோ கோலா' பாட்டிருக்கே - கொலை வெறி வராம மக்கள்ஸ் இதையெல்லாம் வேற பார்த்து வசிருக்கங்கன்னா பாருங்க!

Pre-நாயகன் வருஷங்கள்ல கமல் ரொம்ப பொறுமையா இந்த மாதிரி அமர காவியங்களில் நடிக்க வேண்டிய நிர்பந்தம்.

மனுஷர் எப்படிதான் இந்த fieldல இதையெல்லாம் ஜீரனசிக்கிட்டு காலம் தள்ளினாரோ?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93mwoGystcM

kamal sums up most crap in one single line!! "சினிமாவே பண்டிதர்கள் கையில இருந்துச்சி" ;) ;)

and i sometimes feel that though kamal is too fast and advanced in all aspects, sometimes i feel, if the whole of industry, and audience all moved in jet speed along with kamal, one day the whole industry will be totally advanced and almost near perfect but that may be boring / complicated at times. So in a way its better to move a bit slow, aka normal pace and improve the industry! in that way, some compromises and regular stuff et all are absolutely ok sometimes! kamal has done such compromises lot and lot of times and in a way it helped him too!

But, this cola cola kind of stuff are worse of the worsest!, no doubt!

Kamal oru pakkaa masala padam edukkanum-nu innum pala rasigargal vEndikkittu irukkaanga... Our man is not listening... Let him come out with one masala movie next with the only aim of entertainment... Nadakkananum....

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and i sometimes feel that though kamal is too fast and advanced in all aspects, sometimes i feel, if the whole of industry, and audience all moved in jet speed along with kamal, one day the whole industry will be totally advanced and almost near perfect but that may be boring / complicated at times. So in a way its better to move a bit slow, aka normal pace and improve the industry! in that way, some compromises and regular stuff et all are absolutely ok sometimes! kamal has done such compromises lot and lot of times and in a way it helped him too!

But, this cola cola kind of stuff are worse of the worsest!, no doubt!

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that 'mangamma sabadham' came after the likes of 'Moondram pirai' 'Salangai oli' and around the times of 'sippikkul muthu/swathi muthyam' makes the contrast even more painful!

இதே படத்துல 'சொர்கத்தின் வாசல் எங்கே' - a Michael Jackson 'billy jean' ripoff song, with Madhavi wearing some of the most god-awful costumes ever -(

Kamal does his best filling the screen with as much grace as he can muster to this ungraceful song;

while Madhavi with her body weight distributed unequally all over (extra weight in the wrong places I mean) - கசக்கா முசக்கா stylela முக்கி முக்கி கால் கையெல்லாம் ஆட்டுனாலும், பருத்தி கொட்ட தின்ன குரங்குக்கு விக்கல் வந்தா மாதிரி உதறி தள்றாங்க - என்ன கொடுமை

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-3bnzjy7A

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Kamal oru pakkaa masala padam edukkanum-nu innum pala rasigargal vEndikkittu irukkaanga... Our man is not listening... Let him come out with one masala movie next with the only aim of entertainment... Nadakkananum....

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வேணாம் - எதுக்கு நமக்கு இந்த வீண் ஆசையெல்லாம்? அவராவே இமய மலைக்கு சன்யாசம் போக வச்சுறாதீங்க !

Mangama Sabatham.

It's interesting to remember this movie now. This is the last film Kamal acted under Balaji's production house. After this movie or during the making of the movie, Kamal had a big fight with Balaji and never acted in his production after that. Balaji was one of the major producer during that time. After 'Kadhal Parisu', he had big fight with R.M.Veerapan of Sathya Movies and never acted in that banner. During that time, RM Veerappan was very big shot in politics. After the flop of 'Paer Sollum Pillai', he had problem with AVM brothers and stopped acting in that banner. This may answer the irir123's question of how Kamal acted during the time. He was rebel most of the time and answers the current big question why he is having more enemies in the industry and media.

Now, Papanasam producer Suresh Balaji is Balaji's son.

Time heals the wounds.

TFI Blockbusters - An Analysis(KamalHaasan's BO prowess) Part1: http://tl.gd/n_1sn43ce Part2: http://tl.gd/n_1sn4ntl by @Uttaman69 #MustRead

Inviting all the TFI's So called, SelfMade BO Trade Unalysts to take Tution from @Uttaman69 and get the Real Truth! :clap:

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Originally Posted by nsv

Mangama Sabatham.

It's interesting to remember this movie now. This is the last film Kamal acted under Balaji's production house. After this movie or during the making of the movie, Kamal had a big fight with Balaji and never acted in his production after that. Balaji was one of the major producer during that time. After 'Kadhal Parisu', he had big fight with R.M.Veerapan of Sathya Movies and never acted in that banner. During that time, RM Veerappan was very big shot in politics. After the flop of 'Paer Sollum Pillai', he had problem with AVM brothers and stopped acting in that banner. This may answer the irir123's question of how Kamal acted during the time. He was rebel most of the time and answers the current big question why he is having more enemies in the industry and media.

Now, Papanasam producer Suresh Balaji is Balaji's son.

Time heals the wounds.

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Ok - it now makes sense why the music was by Shankar Ganesh even when IR was at his peak - the K Balaji - IR tiff!

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Originally Posted by irir123

வேணாம் - எதுக்கு நமக்கு இந்த வீண் ஆசையெல்லாம்? அவராவே இமய மலைக்கு சன்யாசம் போக வச்சுறாதீங்க !

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I don't want him to do many Masala movies, but long time he has not done pure masala movies... one in 10 years atleast..

முன்பெல்லாம் சென்னை அண்ணா சாலையில் தமிழ் படங்களுக்கு கட் அவுட் எல்லாம் பிரம்மாண்டமாய் வைப்பார்கள். இப்போ வைக்கிறர்களா என்று தெரியவில்லை.

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Originally Posted by irir123

Ok - it now makes sense why the music was by Shankar Ganesh even when IR was at his peak - the K Balaji - IR tiff!

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Kamal's problem with producers continued. He had problem with even Balachander after 'Unnal Mudiyum Thambi'.

In my village, we had a Fan's club for Kamal from 'Kakki Sattai' time. It wasn't a continuous affair. It's activities reflected the performance of Kamal movies. It worked actively on and off. After the flop of 'Sura Samkharam' and 'Unnal Mudiyum Thambi' (both got released in short interval), our fan club vanished. Club members lost interest because they couldn't find anything to talk big about their idol. Our fan club board also lost. Then came, 'Appoorva Sagathorargal', the entire club got super charged and more people also joined. During that time, it was honour to put the club's board in the theatre and you can show off to the people and with your name on it. During that time, it was a big thing. I don't know whether current generation can understand that.

We ordered for a new board on urgent delivery with lot of money and had to beg the Kamal fans associations head of our town to allocate space for us. It was his responsibility to provide the space for small clubs in theatre. He shouted at us for not putting on the first day and finally relented.

Thank you varadakumar sir. If you have any more kamal and Rajini posters share here. share your old
memories too.

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vetri vizha, kakki sattai madhiri masala movies are more than welcome:)

பிலிம்ஃபேர் போன்ற விழாக்களுக்கு கமல் முடிந்தவரை செல்வதை தவிர்க்க வேண்டும் ..அவரை வைத்துக்கொண்டு நண்டு சிண்டுகளெல்லாம் செய்கிற அலப்பறைகள் தாங்கல :huh: