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raj_musing, did you know that the actress is Oorvashi's sis?
Oh Yeah..Infact she is...Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
We had an interesting discussion about "Poonthendral kaatre" some time back. The haunting nature of the song is due to the fact that the heroine is a ghost in the movie. Suresh was the hero. Any supernatural element in the script makes Raaja go bonkers.
Never knew that the heroine was a ghost! True that for any eerie sequences raja stands out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Subbudu once mentioned about Rahman - thALaththai adippadaiyAga vaithu pAttamaikkirAr. Here is one from IR like that. A rhythm based composition.. see it continue throughout the song like a loop by a current day MD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIZnY...eature=related
This is one of my favorites .. I dont know why I did not switch my allegiance to Rahman :-)
(Another exercise - watch out for songs with "malai"/"kurinji" in their lyrics and the rhythms - most always some tribal beats)
Jai - Thanks for Thangaliyalli from Janma Janma Da Anubandha. A stunner to say the least. It's going on in the loop since last night and I will take my own time to come out of it. What a rendition by SJ.. no words would be enough to praise the mind boggling music churned out in this song.
I'm a big fan of IR's spooky/ghost songs genre. This man has shown unparalleled genius and creativity in the orchestration for spooky songs. A few of my favs:
Devathai Ilam Devi, Uruguthe Idhayame, Vetta Veli, Koodu Thedi etc. Thangaliyalli would be in the top of my list now.
Just revisited the song from Avatharam now in youtube and happy to see the long array of comments for this particular song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3s0mDjVy54
One of those reviewers had put a very interesting comment on this song:
"If this song can be transformed into a drug then it will be banned around the world for being most addictive substance. This is the reason why i don't want to listen to this song because it makes me go high and returning to normalcy becomes a big deal even after a week".....Good one..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMAIP1LBeT8
Finally a picturisation of Raaja melody which is worth watching..
And now I know why the popular rhyme was alluded to in the song. True Narrative integrity is the first and foremost point that Raaja cares about..
Yes, I too was surprised initially when I was just hearing the song, but it anyway sits beautifully in the song. Only recently I discovered from this video, that Sathyan sir would have narrated this situation to Raja and it perfectly fell in place as narrated. I also read and heard that many didn't like that last piece, as it was childish, but they all would have failed to understand this beautiful concept, just by hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Thanks Jai for the beautiful song 'Aaro Hai Paadunnu Dhoore'..I remember Vicky writing about this song in his blog..that was the first time i heard the song and instantly fell in love with it.http://raagadevan.blogspot.com/2010/...irst-love.html
This is the first time im watching the video and have fallen in love again..[:)]
This morning drive - as in the case of many other days during winter - had its dose of "karoke" version of ArO pAdunnu dhoorE.
After losing the V98.7 smooth jazz radio, this piece is a nostalgic replacement for me :-)
Went through Kangalin Varthaigal album (thanks V_S again for the link :-D )
Listened to the tamil version of “Halli Lavaniyalli” but SPB’s version is still the more pleasant one IMO, his voice is just so soft and smooth, youthful…
As for KV, I know Bhavatharani is daddy’s princess and all but she can’t sing…
Sadly some combos don’t always spell wow, saw Unni K singing a song in an IR album and of course automatically thought magic…not so this time for me… curious how SPB and Chitra dominate “Nammura Mandara Hoove” and in “KV” there is much more variety of singers but more isn’t always better I guess. All I can say is that whatever is in “NMH” it is sorely missing in “KV.”
I really do think there is a connection between word sounds and the music they go with...I understand not one word of Kannadam but the words flow so much better with "Halli L" song...this is not the first time I've realized this,
I sorely felt this in the earlier years of Rahman's songs when done in Hindi and then sung again in Tamil (not just the pronunciation flubs but the feeling of lyrics stuffed into the music ...sometimes the results were truly cringe-worthy...case in point Tamil version of Asoka.
Kangalin Varthaigal
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/...p?mid=t0001637
Nammura Mandara Hoove
http://www.musicplug.in/songs.php?movieid=3763
On a side, note, if anyone can help me get a copy of this film, "Avatharam", send me a message. Have been trying for a long time..Quote:
Originally Posted by raj_musing
Revisiting 'Mazhamegha Chelin' and whole of recent IR's malayalam gems as reminded by Sureshji. What a beautiful song, when it enters charanam:
thamarayallikalode thazhavara poothoru kaalam (what a beauty!)
tharakasundarimaaro thozhikalayoru kaalam
angakale maanam thelinje engarike melam kavinje (ithuvallavo sugam!!)
That second interlude blew me off with that flute.
First in the best of recent malayalam (post 2000) definitely comes Bhagyadevatha. Every song in this film is a purest gem. Such a sheer depth in every composition. IR-Sathyan combo is tremendous. I agree, that I can just live with these melodies for many days without even going back to Raja's 80s. This is also one of the reason I could not vote the poll in this thread.
By post 2000, I also meant some his greatest works in Tamizh, Telugu, Kannada, Hindi like Hey Ram, Bharathi, Azhagi, Pithamagan, Virumandi, Athu oru kana kalam, Shiva2006, Anumanaspadam, Aa dinagalu, Mallepoovu, Bhagyada balegara, Prem Kahani, Cheeni Kum, Paa and a whole bunch of 2009 songs. Can't miss these ones.
VS,
detail pl.
Revisiting 'Mazhamegha Chelin' and whole of recent IR's malayalam gems as reminded by Sureshji. What a beautiful song, when it enters charanam:
thamarayallikalode thazhavara poothoru kaalam (what a beauty!)
tharakasundarimaaro thozhikalayoru kaalam
angakale maanam thelinje engarike melam kavinje (ithuvallavo sugam!!)
That second interlude blew me off with that flute.
enna padam.. enna paatu idhu......... give me link pl................
Usha,
It is from 'Katha Thudarunnu', the Malayalam movie.
V_S,
Welcome to the club of 2000s. We need more members :) I am sure Raj_Musing will also be happy to welcome you. 'Bhagyadevatha' is outstanding album. 'Katha Thudarunnu' no less. The only Sathyan Raja that was no optimal was 'Innathe Chinta Vishayam'. The songs were decent but it didn't have one killer melody which each of the other films have. 'kaiyetha' and 'mandaara poo' from Vinodayatra, 'yaaro paadunnu' from 'Katha Thudarunnu', 'swapnangal kanneyudhiya' from 'Bhagyadevatha', 'kodamanjin' from 'KKS', 'poo kungumapoo' from 'Rasathantram', 'melle onnu' from 'Manasinakkare, 'endhu paranjalaum' and 'swasathin thalam' from 'Achuvinte Amma'. Each of these has the ability go deep inside your heart and stay put there. Sathyan loves melodies, Raja loves melodies and in turn we get melodies which we will always love!! I am ready to give up lot of 80s Raja for these songs :)
Yes, I would love to join you guys.:-D All the songs mentioned by you are masterpieces, it will stay with you forever. I don't know somehow in Malayalam, Raja gets very rich tunes, compared to the same in other languages. May be because he is more elevated and impacted by the core story and its locations which has more nativity. Definitely language sweetness also helps there. When you listen to any of these songs, it takes you directly to those beautiful lakes or under the shades of those beautiful coconut trees, not to forget the typical kerala houses. All these adds up to the listening experience.
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Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Suresh,
Naa vandhu Welcome speech Kodukanama elei oru Welcome song play panettama? :) :)
I'm willing to even trade some of my 70's-80's sweethearts for 'kaiyeththA kombaththu' (Manjari version) :-)
IR-Sathyan Anthikkad is a sweet combo without doubt!
RM,
:)
App_eng,
Very true. In Jesudas version you can hear the master struggling a bit. Beyond doubt, 'kaiyetha' is the best song that Manjari has sung in her career.
No exchange for 70s songs(nevaire!) but 80s yes, I'll trade for the 90s and 2000s malayalam songs.
70's Raja is peerless in the history of Indian Film Music
Plum,
Somehow I had a feeling that discussion on Malayalam Raja will get you to post here (or shall I say wake you up from the slumber :) ).
I love 70s Raja too but I hold very closely the gems that Raja created in 80s for Malayalam films. These have been the songs which touched me a lot and bring a lot of joy. So my un-tradeable numbers are the 80s Malayalam Raja numbers.
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer...049%27&lang=en
TMS anna , Raaja, trumpets and drums - Freak out Total damage..
The Guitar riff (or is it Synth) that accompanies TMS voice in charanam - simply changes the tone of TMS voice (in total)
and adds a "Zing".. Nice thumping foot tapping "Close to head banging" song in TFM
Sureshji,
In the earlier thread you posted that you are ready to give up a few songs of 80's , for the songs that raja composed in 2000's. And now you have posted that the 80's songs are the real gems and they are untradeable :)
In other words all the songs composed by him were gems and you don't want to trade anything. Is that right? :) :)
Regards
R
raj_musing,
அதெல்லாம் சும்மா ஒரு பேச்சுக்கு சொல்றது :-)
நம்மெல்லாம் இந்த விஷயத்துல பேராச பிடிச்சவங்க, எனக்கு இதுவும் வேணும் - அதுவும் வேணும் - இன்னமும் வேணும் :-)
pudhidhai kaetum puthu pudhu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLEFC4YXpI
muthamizhae muthamizhae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T8Zm...eature=related
Nandu - kaise kahoon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUI1F...layer_embedded
ellam kaeten.. ennoda comments - epavum pola limited dhan....
jaiganes.. irukeengala.. ungaluku homework idhu.............. ishatam irundhal senju thango...
Suresh - neraiya time solli irukeenga. irundhalum........... inoru murai unga writings um vendum....................
plum..... time iruka ungaluku.......... unga views solla mudiyuma...........
app - romba sikkanama solllitu poreenga ipo ellam............ unga writings um vendum..........
Nandu - youtube dhan romba special...........
Lot of time is spent on election thread :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsankar
Also on Ponniyin Selvan thread in TF area :-)
app,
naan sonnadhu indha thread la............. haha.
R_M,
What I meant was I would trade Raja's 80s song of other languages but not Malayalam. Come to think of it, what you say is right. Nothing of Raja is really tradeable. The trade happens only within his songs :)
App_e and Suresh, Fine .. Yeah I was confused :)
JG! Thanks for ‘Aadal paadalil’! This song has ‘kickassness’ written all over it! The energy, the groove, the exuberance, boy-oh-boy, this one’s a dasher every moment!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
I started my day with this song and it has been playing ever since; I just cant get enough of this one! I’m not a very big fan of TMS+IR combo (save some whacky ones like the carnatic-remix Kabhi Kabhi and a few similar stuff), but TMS smacks the ball out of the park here!
Thiraipaadal says this one’s from 79 and the enthusiasm of the new-kid-on-the-block Raja shows up quite clearly (not exactly ‘new’ though; he must have been some 50 odd films old by then going by his strike rate!).
But his 70s stuff is, to me, still the formative years, ‘genius in the making’ phase. Influences are heavily apparent in the work while still displaying his inherent wizardry over instrumentation. Take this song for eg.; the impact of RDB (and a bit of MSV) on IR can easily be felt here in the pounding rhythm (loud claps and drums) and an easy sing-along tune. This one seems like the thagappan of his subsequent songs in this genre like Baby shake it baby (movie ?), Swing swing (moodupani), Thullum ilamai idhu (anbe odi vaa), etc. The progression and evolution of the 80s IR is very interesting. While songs like Aadal paadalil have the groovy electric guitars and a kind of rawness/edginess, its only from the 80s that the complex,intricate bass lines and precision in tune, get added to the armory, thus forming the inimitable Raaja signature (Ilami idho idho, poo pota dhavani, poo malai oru paavai, and the likes).
Suresh, if allowed, I’ll take a bit of both, the butter and the ghee..78-84! Idha adikka aal illa!
But coming to think of it, what boggles the mind is this 0.5kg of cerebral matter producing an EVK/Moondrampirai in the 80s, Guru in 90s, Thiruvasagam/Virumandi/MX post 2000, an Uliyin Osai/Naan kadavul/Paa towards 2010! And we’re just talking about the creamiest of the cream of each decade. Idhula vera Thamizh, Malayalam, Kannadam, Telungu, Indhi, ippidi total area attack! Shbaaa.. mudiyala!
KV,
As I said, while 78 to 84 in Tamil is bread and butter to most Raja fans, my staple happens to the 80s Malayalam. I like those songs so much that I don't listen to them :) I mean, I want their magic to stay on and on. So I hear them once in a while only. 'rithubeda kalpana', 'poovai virinju', 'alliilam poovo', 'thamarakili', 'kiliye kilye' Olangal songs, 'e neelima than', 'bul bul maine', 'thazampoo' and many more.
Look at that list you've come up with now! (Reminds me of Noorani Shaasthapreedhi! Ada pradhaman, Chakka pradhaman, Godhuma pradhaman, Paal payasam... all one after the other! Yedha kudikardhu? Yedha vidardhu?) But if Kuliradunnu maanathu is going to be relegated to 'many more', I'll raise red flag and protest!
The last song in my list was Aakashadindha Jaari (Janma janmada anubandha). Like the way you guys had written about Sathyan movie songs and the picture of Kerala it paints, this one's the Karnataka counterpart. IMO, one of the very best of IR's kannnada work, which in turn happens to be one very close to my heart! Trust Raja to leave you in a dilemma!
aakashadhindhaa jaari and "gandaagi naanu hutti " are awesome tribal/folk songs by Raaja in Kannada. Aakashadindha is so richly done and experimental (with the counterpointed chorus in the interludes), Raaja took its template and made "Raasave onnai naan" from Thanikkaattu Raaja. Nice picks KV!! and welcome!!!
KV,
Nope. I cannot relegate 'kulirandunnu' to 'others'. My problem was all three Olangal songs are amazing. So if you observe carefully you can see I have said the songs of 'Olangal'.
As far as Karnataka nativity goes, 'Bhoomi Geethe' would also be present along with 'Namoora Mandara Hoove'. As Plum said in an earlier occasion, the songs of 'Bhoomi Geethe' transport us to the Western Ghats immediately.
Aadal Paadalil is another superb song that I haven't heard before. Thanks Jai for bringing these gems to our ears.
Could not come out of this wonderful collection for the past five days. Agi music has remastered the tracks quite beautifully. Enjoying it in full blast. Again most of the them are guitar dominated tracks.
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/...?mid=TC0000548
Including some of the very rare songs like EVK, Nizhal Thedum Nenjangal and Vaanengum from Moondram Pirai. Could not skip any song. One of the best assorted collection, I have ever possessed.
PS: This link missed two beautiful songs from the collection, Thendrale Nee Pesu (PBS) and En Iniya Pon (KJY), which was in the original collection when I purchased from agi.
racy violin,vigor & energy of percussion, boyish lover boy with Janu.. solaippoovil.......vellai roja.
haa.. endearing youthful Ilayaraja from 80s forever for some of us!
Vinatha.
வசந்தமும் இங்கே வந்ததென்று
வாசனை மலர்கள் சொன்னாலும்
வசந்தமும் இங்கே வந்ததென்று
வாசனை மலர்கள் சொன்னாலும்
தென்றலும் இங்கே வந்து நின்று
இன்பத்தின் கீதம் தந்தாலும்
நீ இன்றி ஏது வசந்தம் இங்கே
நீ இன்றி ஏது ஜீவன் இங்கே
சேர்ந்திடவே உனையே ..ஒ ...
I just melt. What a beauty
en jeevan paadudhu....Shri.Ilayaraaja's fine 80s album.
oh ho ho ho......engirundho azhaikkum un geetham.....tabala ilayaraja.
scintillating violin work and flute calls.
rhythmic delight கட்டி வச்சுக்கோ.....
ஒரே முறை உன் தரிசனம்......ஜானு's finest.
வீணா and the violin ... ஹம்மிங் & , புல்லாங்குழல் calls...bewitching ஜானு
கார்த்திக் is gorgeous
கார்த்திக் is cute
கார்த்திக் naturally exudes charm .
வா வா அன்பே....
பியானோ, வயோலின் , கிடார், புல்லாங்குழல் delight ...சிவரஞ்சனி யேசுதாஸ் & சித்ரா
மணி & இளையராஜா have given us enough for me to celebrate this life & more
Vinatha.
dear all, one more kannada song which impressed me recently is Lananamani from prema raaga hede gelathi.some amazing rhythm changes throughout.though had the cd for nearly 2 years just recently opened it and listened.wow is the least i can say.rgds.visu