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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

Answer this question practically: How long do you think he can go?. How long can he go. The reflexes have quite come down. What I felt is that he unnecessarily gave a chance for his head calling. 7 id-la varavan ellam kelvi kekkura nelamaikku vandhachu. What is the point of playing anymore?. I hope he goes in recluse like bradman did after his retirement. Some people just don't deserve good things.

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As I said, I cannot think practically.
It is just annoying to have every other guy comment on him. But that is precisely why I want him to go on. I am beyond 'it is painful to see him fail'. I felt that the whole year. But now I think I am beyond it (I didn't see a single ball in this series though).

Even when the whole bloody team is failing, people are calling for Sachin's head disproportionately loudly.

Bottomline is, there is a fundamental disconnect. I can't understand how people can be more interested in the future of Indian cricket than watching Sachin play. That means they only think he is 'one of the many good talented players who played the game'. Will have to shake hands and part ways then and there.

Some part of me is getting perverse to the extent of thinking, I don't want him to pull up and perform just so these detractors would appreciate him. I want him to troll them - Brando-like. This is what you get, deal with it.

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Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE

Ricky Ponting's performance in the last 3 years has nothing to write home about, except for once series against the perennially hapless India. There has been calls for Ricky Ponting's head/body/arms/legs for a long time now and to say that he could have 'easily' continued for 2 more years just because he is 2 years younger to Sachin is laughable and raises serious questions about your understanding of the game. There was one player from Namibia who played when he was around 47 and hence going by your criteria, Sachin can 'easily' play for another 7 years at least.

Emotions aside, even I would like to see Sachin retire soon, but not for the long list of reasons you have listed down here.



The 'Genius' and the 'Rare Phenomenon' is not booed by anyone as yet, and it is only some 'knowledgeable' fans/critics like you who have been calling for this head from the time you first started watching cricket, for reasons not known. Nambi, I could see you lauding Ian Chappell's Mirror classic in 2007 and would have wanted Sachin to retire @ that stage, because you cannot see him undergo the 'trauma'.

Nambi, Trauma is not new to Sachin. Right from the 1990’s when he was the one exceptional Indian on the world stage to this date, Sachin has been carrying the trauma that has been a result of the unrealistic expectations/hope of an entire nation that was conveniently dumping all their personal aspirations/dreams/desires on Sachin’s tiny frame. Every Indian wanted to express themselves to the World and put the onus on Sachin. Sachin took the trauma all these years and delivered.



Ever since the day Sachin eased himself into the Indian team and started establishing his prodigious talent, he has been asking the question 'Whether my team needs my presence' and right from the days of the Serial Match Fixer Azharuddin to this day of MSD, Sachin's presence has been the only reason why Cricket is still the No 1 sport in India. The IPL riches of today and all other luxuries that Indian Cricket is getting used to today, is because of Sir Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.

Now coming back to the question of Sachin's retirement, I Say Sachin should retire soon for 3 important reasons.

1. Sachin does not deserve to play in a team that plays the game without any respect/sincerity/patriotism. Sachin plays in a team where all ‘seniors’ believe they are above the game and is led by a captain who is genuine but insensitive and does not have a vision. Sachin should disassociate himself from this team.
2. Sachin should not represent BCCI anymore, an organization that employs obesity hit 50 year olds and is solely focused on raking millions with no respect to neither the game nor the players or the paying public. Sachin should disassociate himself from it.
3. Sachin does not deserve to play for the Indian general public which seems to have identified other ways and means to get counted and hence are ready to dump the very man who brought them self-respect. The generation of today believe they are an independent and a self-confident lot. They don’t need heroes anymore; they don’t need a Sachin anymore to bring them respect. Sachin should disassociate himself completely from this group of hypocrites.

Sachin is not scoring runs for some time now, yes you have a point, but that does not been he is not ‘performing’. If you would have noticed the intensity that this selfless 40 year old man displayed on the field in the last 3 test matches against England when he was chasing/throwing himself around when every other senior/young team members were either fooling around or disinterested, you would have known what performance truly means. Performance means giving your all, irrespective of your form/age/environment, etc.

If you would still stay that scoring runs is the only criteria for performance, well mark my words, Sachin can still cause a turn-around and shut all Ian Chappells one more time.

But Sachin should just disassociate himself from the game which does not deserve him anymore.

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brill :clap:

P.S: i don want him to retire taking all this emotional hurt...
dhanush in aadukalam: nammalavittaa vaera yaaru andha ponnukku sekurity kudukka mudiyin...

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Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE

Sachin is not scoring runs for some time now, yes you have a point, but that does not been he is not ‘performing’. If you would have noticed the intensity that this selfless 40 year old man displayed on the field in the last 3 test matches against England when he was chasing/throwing himself around when every other senior/young team members were either fooling around or disinterested, you would have known what performance truly means. Performance means giving your all, irrespective of your form/age/environment, etc.

If you would still stay that scoring runs is the only criteria for performance, well mark my words, Sachin can still cause a turn-around and shut all Ian Chappells one more time.

But Sachin should just disassociate himself from the game which does not deserve him anymore.

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True..When it comes to commitment, SRT is right at the top. It is even more remarkable considering his age. His intensity and dedication to the game is unmatched. Very good write up there, Cedyblue. Hopefully Sachin has a good game in NAgpur

Cedyblue :clap: .. romba theliva oraikara maari solli irukeenga..

Cedy blue Sir ,

I accept that I don’t have the expertise which you have.

You and PR sir both or rather the entire bunch of hubbers here appear to view Sachin's case more on emotional front than ground realities. This is natural considering you are all hardened fans ( worshippers ) .

Sachin actually has been taking undue advantage of the leniency from the selectors who out of respect for his achievements might have been waiting patiently for Sachin himself to take a decision. This was what Srikanth when he was chief of selectors echoed after the Australian debacle recently . I refer to the interview with Kanwal of Hindustan times. The selection for Nagpur test where they have dropped Yuvi , Turbanator is actually an indirect pointer to Sachin as they have taken action on some guys who are younger to Sachin by atleast 8-9 years . Hope he understands that instead of pretending to be let scot free for his continuing failures.

Sachin has been too selfish of late to chose series of his choice which is atrocious . This extraordinary facility was never given to anyone ! The same Sachin can play for IPL continuously for 2 months but will pick an international series of his wish . What a paradox ! And you are chiding BCCI !

All such leniencies, you can never get from an Australian Board and that’s what makes Ricky poorer by 2 years who is physically more agile and energetic . Ricky is still sharp in close in fielding and hitting the stumps and his reflexes are good even now . 2 years in Cricket at the age band between 35-40 is a big bonus and I am sure knowledgeable folllower like you will appreciate this. Australian selectors always do a long term planning and take bold decisions and they want someone to take over from Ricky and this transition process has been going on and you will see that happen. Same in the case of other greats like Hayden, Damien Martyn, Langer , Gilly, Steve ( and Mark also ). They will ensure that the senior player is given sufficient time to end his career on a graceful way. Whereas here we are a bunch of emotional wrecks always thinking about the past glory and shed tears for someone who actually is coming in the way of a proable deserving candidate.

You have conveniently forgotten to remember the booing he recd in Mumbai , his hometown ! I don’t want this to happen to someone who has scored 100 centuries in international cricket , a rare achievement which I don’t think someone can overtake except may be in tests. It will be really shameful to see Sachin getting treated harshly by the crowd. Purely out of respect for Sachin, fans must have been waiting patiently for him to score a decent knock, may be a match winning or saving one and retire with peace.

I had raised a point on Sachin should ask himself whether he is contributing to the team in what way . The match winner tag was gone long back I think . He has been just another dependable player. I am saying that he cannot give the knockout punch or can decide the course of the match. Just another sheer accumulator of runs without any purpose.

You have mentioned about commitment. Actually when the Azar episode broke out, it was Sachin, who midway of the SA series in India, resigned from captaincy and selectors had to hurriedly bring in Dada . It should have been the other way by Sachin holding on to the captaincy and control the affairs instead of shying away from the mainstream. Sachin did nothing to halt . He didn’t even name those cricketers who were involved. Even in the recent interview with TOI, he was shying away from the question from Arnab. He was saying he has no direct evidence to point out !

Sachin actually should thank the BCCI and selectors for having given such a long tenure despite his failures. This is out of respect for the great cricketer which he should reciprocate and retire gracefully after a decent knock.

He might score some runs in Nagpur. Don’t count that for his further continuance for another 2 years. This will be a mirage. Sad.

how sad!!

kadasila eppdi check vaikiraaru paarunga :lol2:

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He might score some runs in Nagpur. Don’t count that for his further continuance for another 2 years. This will be a mirage. Sad.

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Mr. Nambi nobody here is saying Sachin should play forever or saying he is doing well. There are other problems in the team that are not being talked about because Sachin is not performing.
Sachin was the best test player last year but that doesn't mean or guarantee his place. Here is the average over the last three years.
Sachin - 78,47,25( for 2010,2011,2012)
Sehwag- 61,29,33
Gambir- 32,31,31

The openers have been consitently underperforming and putting pressure on the middle order, if anything its because of Sachin, Dravid and Laxman we had some sense of what test cricket is, now that Dravid and Laxman are not there and Sachin is not doing well we are losing very badly.

If there is someone whose place should be questioned its Gambir, then Sehwag and then comes Sachin. Sachin was one of the few players who was confortable playing the Aus bowlers in Aus this year.
When Australia comes here its better to have him than a rookie or these openers who even refuse to acknowledge there is problem (have you seen a statement about their forms considering they are averaging in the lower 30's for over two years?) The only statements they give are we are the best and thats how I play.

Scoring fast 60-70 as a pair in 15 overs and keeping an avergae of 30 is useless and detrimental if you keep exposing the middle order within 15 overs everytime.
FYI, Sehwag averages less than Harbhajan outside the sub-continent. (not for the past few series, but in the past 3 years) and the less we talk about Gambir better. Maybe they should only be selected for matches in India?
There is nothing to defend about Sachin, everyone knows even if he scores in the next match he is not a long term prospect, but this hatred of Sachin is blinding the glaring truth for most people that the root of the problem lies elsewhere. The truth is there are players there are players in the team who haven't performed for well over 2 years and this is being overlooked because of 1 bad year from Sachin.

Lscain,

Please don't bother. Mr. Nambi is a blind hater of Sachin and had been waiting for this chance for a long time. He was nowhere to be seen when Sachin was scoring heavily during 2008-2011 and when he hits a bad patch, he conveniently appears.

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Originally Posted by lscain605

Mr. Nambi nobody here is saying Sachin should play forever or saying he is doing well. There are other problems in the team that are not being talked about because Sachin is not performing.
Sachin was the best test player last year but that doesn't mean or guarantee his place. Here is the average over the last three years.
Sachin - 78,47,25( for 2010,2011,2012)
Sehwag- 61,29,33
Gambir- 32,31,31

The openers have been consitently underperforming and putting pressure on the middle order, if anything its because of Sachin, Dravid and Laxman we had some sense of what test cricket is, now that Dravid and Laxman are not there and Sachin is not doing well we are losing very badly.

If there is someone whose place should be questioned its Gambir, then Sehwag and then comes Sachin. Sachin was one of the few players who was confortable playing the Aus bowlers in Aus this year.
When Australia comes here its better to have him than a rookie or these openers who even refuse to acknowledge there is problem (have you seen a statement about their forms considering they are averaging in the lower 30's for over two years?) The only statements they give are we are the best and thats how I play.

Scoring fast 60-70 as a pair in 15 overs and keeping an avergae of 30 is useless and detrimental if you keep exposing the middle order within 15 overs everytime.
FYI, Sehwag averages less than Harbhajan outside the sub-continent. (not for the past few series, but in the past 3 years) and the less we talk about Gambir better. Maybe they should only be selected for matches in India?
There is nothing to defend about Sachin, everyone knows even if he scores in the next match he is not a long term prospect, but this hatred of Sachin is blinding the glaring truth for most people that the root of the problem lies elsewhere. The truth is there are players there are players in the team who haven't performed for well over 2 years and this is being overlooked because of 1 bad year from Sachin.

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shoakkaa sonna thala!