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...despite the Great Scientist Dr Aienstene was a Staunch believer of existence of the Suprelative -Might.. so called God...

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Dr. Aienstene (?) maybe a staunch believer, but he neither believed in astrology nor he believed in the theory of karma. What Dr. Aienstene believed was, Jesus Christ was/is a Son of Christian God - Jehovah, the Almighty, who created everything that exists. Unfortunately, the above quoted ill thought, mono-illogical and heedless reference to Dr. Aienstene (?) itself now turns against the believers who believe in astrology and the theory of karma. :) :thumbsup:

Now the most enigmatic question of all time for the believers of astrology and karma should be:
What were the horoscopes, karma or the combination of both, of India and hundreds of millions of Indians who suffered waves after waves of foreign invasions, slavery and dismal destitution for 1000s of years?

Rohit,

I request you to open another thread about "NON-BELIEVERS IN ASTROLOGY" and post your views there.
This thread is for and about believers in astrology. At least I would prefer not to be distracted when I am discussing serious issues in Astrology.
Hope you would understand.

Nichiro

Friends,

Some time back I had stated that we need to take a fresh look at Karakatwa of planets.I did some startling work on Rahu and my quest for Karaktwa is continuing.
I had mentioned that I will be working on Rahu, Guru and Shani.
So keeping up the tempo of my investigation in Karakatwa of Guru, I am writing the first instalment of work on Guru.

I have taken the following from my article on Rahu which speaks about need to have a rethink on Karakatwa of Rahu, Guru and Shani.

"It is but human nature to paint any shade in to darker and darker shade . A small time thief becomes a demonic murderer, cheat etc. once the story is told and retold over a period of time. A mole hill is converted into a mountain.

Everything Fair in colour is seen as Fair, beautiful, good and benign in nature and everything black is associated with worst things you can imagine. Thus black people are termed as cheats, crooks, dumb, fools, low in caste,of low character , menials, diseased etc.
This obsession with dark and black has been well adopted by astrologers of yore.
Thus Saturn, Rahu and Ketu have become mlechheas, sudras, thieves, labourers,crooks, and whatever bad you can think of.

So when it came to allotting Karakatwa , venus, Jupiter, Mercury and Sun took the best of the portfolios. Rules of astrology were formed to fit their brightness . Sometimes square pegs were put in round holes.

Jupiter, the planet shares the same name Guru , meaning Large as Guru meaning Teacher. At some point of time, Guru the planet, Guru , the teacher and Brihaspati, the Teacher of immortal Devas became one .
Brihaspati, the Deva Guru , supposed to be of most benign nature, pious,intelligent, Brahmin, was given many portfolios. Out of that, portfolios of 2nd houseand 5th house were also given to him. But Guru, even though was made karaka for house of wealth, whenever he was in 2nd bhava, the man turned into a pauper lost wealth or suffered financially.He was given karakatva of 5th house , Santana Bhava.But when he sits in Santana Bhava, he is found to bring the lineage to the end.The person becomes childless.
How can a minister of finance occupying his own office in the place ruled by him destroy the finances of the country ?How can the Putra Karaka deny a son to the person if in 5th bhava?

They also found that BAD Sani , increased wealth when in 2nd bhava.

It is like a Menial low caste servant occupying the seat of finance in the ministry increase the wealth of the country. !!!

How paradoxical !!!!

So the old Astrologers belonging to Brihaspati's kula (Brahmins) made a rule to explain.

BHAVA NASH KARO JEEVA,
BHAVA VRIDDHHI KARAU SHANI:

Meaning, Jupiter destroys the bhava he occupies and saturn increases the bhava he occupies.

I remember the story of olden times when a child wants Moon, the mother brings a plate of water and asks the child to take the reflection of Moon."

And since the child believes in Mother, he accepts that moon and stops crying. People accepted all the so called Exceptions to the rule without questioning. In respect to Brihaspati, I found that he is a misfit in most of the places he sits.


According to my thinking, Guru acts as a Parasite , and draws strength from the house he occupies and distributes its goodness in form of aspectual fruits.
In my original research on Planets and Element's Periodic table,Jupiter becomes the lord of 6th Group.

JUPITER AS LORD OF 6th GROUP

Jupiter means JEEVA, meaning LIFE. He is the savior of Life on earth. Oxygen means Life. No Oxygen means no life. You find oxygen in 6th group. In astrology, Guru's aspect removes all problems and prevents Balarishta (Infant Mortality).

Jupiter is Yellow in colour , he adores yellow clothes. His stone is Yellow sapphire. He resides in a ASTHAKONA HOUSE.

You will find Yellow Sulphur listed in this group. Outermost shell has 8 electrons. So he resides in ASHTKONA house. Chromium salts are yellow.

Oxygen in moderation gives life.But same oxygen kills at higher doses.Water is disinfected using over dose of oxygen .!!
Excess amount of oxygen in form of FREE RADICALS has been found to be extremely harmful to human/all living things. Free Radicals have been found to lower immunity and accelerate ageing process.
And this is the handywork of Planet known as JEEVA.

I am posting on effects of Guru in 2nd,5th 9th and 10th houses today to illustrate that he destroys the houses which he occupies.

EFFECT OF GURU IN 5TH HOUSE.

Male
DOB: 28.9.1954
TOB: 18.30 Hrs
POB: Madras

Asc: Pisces
Ketu: Gemini
Jupiter: Cancer
Moon,Sun: Virgo
Sat/Merc/Ven: Libra
Rahu/Mars: Saggitarius


Mark Guru in cancer a Female sign in 5th where Guru is in exaltation.
He has malefics in 10th house which denotes no progeny to light funeral pyre.

This person is childless even after two marriages.


CASE # II

Male

DOB: 6TH July 1935
Tob : 5.34 AM
POB: Teng-t'a
101 E 12
36 N 32

Gemini: Asc
Gemini: Sun/Merc/Ketu
Leo: Moon/venus
Virgo : Mars
Libra : Jupiter
Saggi: Rahu
Aquarius: Saturn

This person has Guru in 5th house.He is unmarried and has no children due to religious abstinence.
This horoscope belongs to His Holiness Dalai Lama.

CASE # III

GURU IN 2ND HOUSE DHANA BHAVA

MALE
Born ...10th Nov 1955


Janma Lagna Kataka
Vrishabha...........ketu
Simha ..............Guru
Kanya...............Moon, Mars
Tula................Saturn, Mercury, Sun
Vrischik............Rahu , Shukra


VIMSHOTTARI DASAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR,
Moon, Mars, Rahu, Guru (Presently).

This person has Guru in 2nd house in Leo.

RESULT:

The jataka , except for a very brief period in Guru dasa, has failed in everything he has done. Extremely bad with money. Owes people huge sums, no property , no permenet jobs, avoided by world and also his own family.poverty does not leave him and presently looked after by father inlaw.


GURU IN 8TH , AYUSHYA BHAVA.

Guru is termed as Jeeva, Ayushya karaka, remover of illness, when comes and occupies 8th bhava, destroys the Ayushya or Life of a person.
I will give two examples of such people who were killed by Guru.

CASE #1

Male:
DOB: 27.3.1972
TOB: 9.07 AM
POB: Udaipur Rajasthan

Taurus: Asc
Taurus: Mars/Sat
Cancer: Ketu
Leo: Moon
Saggi: Jupiter
Capri: Rahu
Pisces: Sun/Merc

Mark presence of Guru in the 8th bhava. The person died in a tragic road accident in year 2001.

CASE # 2

Male
DOB: 9.11.1915
TOB: 12.15 am
POB: Porbandar India

Cancer : Asc
Cancer: Mars/ketu
Libra: Merc/Sun
Scorpio: Moon/Venus
Capri: Rahu
Aquarius: Jupiter
Gemini: Saturn

Mark Jupiter in 8th bhava.

The person in question died of TB at the age of 24 years.

To Be Continued.

BRUM BRUHASPATAYE NAMAH:

Nichiro

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Rohit,

I request you to open another thread about "NON-BELIEVERS IN ASTROLOGY" and post your views there.
This thread is for and about believers in astrology. At least I would prefer not to be distracted when I am discussing serious issues in Astrology.
Hope you would understand.

Nichiro

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You have hit the NAIL on the HEAD ! :thumbsup:

Rohit, I second Nichiro ! :D

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Rohit,

I request you to open another thread about "NON-BELIEVERS IN ASTROLOGY" and post your views there.
This thread is for and about believers in astrology. At least I would prefer not to be distracted when I am discussing serious issues in Astrology.

Hope you would understand. Nichiro

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Thanks Mr. Nichiro... I wanted to reply the same to Mr. Rohit. And you have said it.

We have already discussed and replied... under this same Thread, at the initial stages... to such of the Counter-Arguments from Non-believers.

So we need not RE-OPEN once again the same point here...on THAT GREAT OCCULT- SCIENCE ...a part of Rich Indian-Heritage...

...recognised by even the Foreigners like Mr. Cheiro.

Most of us here are Not Astrologers, but only the Clients. We all here are PERSONALLY WELL-CONVINCED on the Great Values of it...

... BASED ON OUR OWN EXPERIENCES...and thus a Practical LIFE- LESSON we learnt too !!!

However if a further ARGUMENT is called for by Mr. Rohit... Well, he can open another Thread on the same main heading: Astrology... but a Sub-section as...

... Astrology Genuine or False?

But... PARALLELLY... let us continue the Topic here...

And we are in course of discussion now... in a Radically different angle... AMONGST THE STAUNCH BELIEVERS

NO MORE INTERFERENCE PLEASE.... diverting towards the Rudiments.

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

This thread is for and about believers in astrology.

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Thank you Nichiro for making the much-needed clarification

Dear Nichiro, Selvakumar and Sudhaama

Please don't get so disheartened. I am not here to distract anyone from his or her beliefs. I only wanted to point to the fact, that astrology is merely a belief system, which can only be believed but it can never be claimed as science when examined under the principles of science. That is all I wanted to establish.

Thank you all, please continue with your discussion, keeping in mind that the enigmatic question I have raised, still requires an answer under the declared belief system of yours. This is very important, if not for others, but at least to convince yourselves about your own infidelity towards your own belief system

Till then, good luck and enjoy :) :thumbsup:

Rohit,

If you want to disprove /prove a system, you MUST learn the system and only then, try and disprove it. No fun in taking digs at any system without knowing it.
Thanks for your future non interference.

Nichiro

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Rohit,
If you want to disprove /prove a system, you MUST learn the system and only then, try and disprove it. No fun in taking digs at any system without knowing it.
Thanks for your future non interference.Nichiro

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Dear Nichiro,

I have described the situation on the basis of scientific data and scientific methodology; and I know both well enough to disprove what I have disproved about your belief system and I have also raised the most enigmatic question for not only you, but for all of us that need answering under your belief system. Now if you care to answer any of that within the framework of science and scientific principles, I would definitely welcome that.
:) :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Nichiro

Rohit,
If you want to disprove /prove a system, you MUST learn the system and only then, try and disprove it. No fun in taking digs at any system without knowing it.
Thanks for your future non interference.Nichiro

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Dear Nichiro,

I have described the situation on the basis of scientific data and scientific methodology; and I know both well enough to disprove what I have disproved about your belief system and I have also raised the most enigmatic question for not only you, but for all of us that need answering under your belief system. Now if you care to answer any of that within the framework of science and scientific principles, I would definitely welcome that.
:) :thumbsup: