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22nd March 2009, 10:58 PM
MADDY

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i've always had this doubt - do "dark/depressing themes" only mean "cinematic brilliance" ......

AhA... marupadiyum mudhallErndhA !.....

sari edhukku kEkkureenga.... wrt Gulaal ? illai oru general knowledge-kkA ?

i remember selva stretched this arguement a lot sometime back :) seri vitruvom........

btw, enna madhiri sila aatkal-kaaga anurag kashyap oru padam pannaru :lol2: -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_Hanuman
22nd March 2009, 11:03 PM
kannannn

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i think we are still trying to hide behind this reason..........a movie like vaaranam ayiram(cost:23crores~) recovered its costs with just running in A centres, idhu podhaadha.....same goes for poi solla porom - which was a hit, if im not wrong.......tamil movies are like this - bcos they want to be like this..... :) y cant they bring in corporates, use marketing stratergies like associating movie with products, do a "target audience study"..........technical-a tamilan brilliant but management, marketing, now filmmaking-la northies are a century ahead....... :lol:

me and bala were discussing this point sometime back over phone -and we hit upon this point (pls excuse if it sounds racist) - a average tamilian's taste is inferior compared to a average malayali or a "northie multiplex" audience taste........and the "trade pundits", "distributors" have this habit of making sure that this taste stays inferior by setting guidelines for a good film...reminds me of vivek-parthiban dialogue:

vi: yen unakku indha pazhakkam
pa: chinna vayasulerndhe irukku saar
vi: appadina onnum panna mudiyaadhu

:lol:

Hmm.. maybe you are right. Someone needs to start it. Maybe there is also still an element of conservativeness in our society. I don't know if we can make a 'Mixed Doubles' or have the conversations between Lene and her parents (DevD) in our films without affecting the sensibilities of our people. Edit: I see what you mean about Mallu and 'Multiplex tastes'.
23rd March 2009, 06:14 AM
Thalafanz

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Delhi-6
:curse:

Naan RDB appovE sonnEn indha aaLai vaLaththu vidaadheenga-nnu. kEttA dhaanE....ippo enna aachchu paarunga. I mean paakkaadheenga.

:rotfl:
En friends appovE sonnaainga, naan kEkkala. mokkai-nu theriyum aanaa sakkarakatti range-kku irukkum-nu sathiyamA ethirpArkkala.. Shantanu better-nu nenaikkiREn.. abhishek's acting, amreekan accent etc :lol2:

Ada pAvigalA, Sakkarakatti-ya oru bench mark-AvE AkkitEnggalA... :lol:
23rd March 2009, 12:46 PM
crajkumar_be

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Originally Posted by kannannn

conversations between Lene and her parents (DevD) in our films without affecting the sensibilities of our people.

Adhaan matter. We are still stuck in the "Neeya Naana" range :lol2:
23rd March 2009, 01:08 PM
P_R

I still thing it is largely the market size. i.e. the neeya-naane likers will be the same, if not larger proportion in the North Indies too. (curiously I have not seen any such program in indhi except in DD where some poor chaps who have been shepherded through Delhi winter into cardboard studios). Just that the population above (adhaan elitist-A pEsuradhunnu aagi pOcchulla) neeya naana population is itself quite huge. Bala maadhiri, market mechanicals therinjavanga innum elaborate paNNalaam.
23rd March 2009, 02:00 PM
equanimus

I agree with PR here, that Hindi film industry is catering to a much bigger market, a wider audience, and their filmmakers can afford to take greater risks than their Tamil counterparts.

However, I think we should give significant credit to the filmmakers too. We can't explain everything with market mechanics. Curiously, "multiplex audience" is used to explain away everything in this respect. What are the multiplex audiences really doing? They're just watching films "they like." I don't see any remarkable difference between them and other kinds of audience. For starters, they are just as self-serving. How cheerful are they really about films that challenge or unsettle their position as the audience? A film like Mixed Doubles didn't do as well as Bheja Fry did. No Smoking bombed big time, both commercially and critically. If you take last year, films like Mithya and Oye Lucky Oye Lucky Oye did not do very well really, while a Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na was a big hit. (Here I'm not qualititatively judging these films.) One can quite easily figure the kind of films that are almost sure to work in the "market." In other words, my point is some sort of "surefire" framework exists in the multiplex market too, just like anywhere else.
23rd March 2009, 02:33 PM
VENKIRAJA

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Originally Posted by kannannn

conversations between Lene and her parents (DevD) in our films without affecting the sensibilities of our people.

Adhaan matter. We are still stuck in the "Neeya Naana" range :lol2:

Very true. Those people watched DevD (without subtitles, they didn't know Hindi as well) and were complaining that the movie is below average. They didn't enjoy our VKK too. ivingaLa vachikittu enna seyyuRadhu?
23rd March 2009, 02:52 PM
P_R

I have a question about costs too. Kind of mathematical question

If Tamil maket is only a fraction of the Hindi, actually Hinglish, market, then can't we have production costs a fraction of the Hindi production costs and make such films ? Related question, what is that fraction ?

I am inclined to think that even with a favourable fraction answering the above question, we may still not make the cut. Hence my resolve to just think of Hindi film as yet another foreign-language film and spare myself all this.
23rd March 2009, 08:52 PM
MADDY

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

If Tamil maket is only a fraction of the Hindi, actually Hinglish, market, then can't we have production costs a fraction of the Hindi production costs and make such films ? Related question, what is that fraction ?

I am inclined to think that even with a favourable fraction answering the above question, we may still not make the cut. Hence my resolve to just think of Hindi film as yet another foreign-language film and spare myself all this.

adhaan sonnomla - tamil films are like this because they want it to be like this.............wat production cost you require to do a movie like "Mitya" or a "DevD"......idhellam summa, naamale nammala ematthikurom.......

enakku enga valikkudhu-na, look at their masala movies like Race, Dostana and compare it with our masalas - Aegan or VAyiram - no comparison........they have improved their standards on a whole.....
23rd March 2009, 09:41 PM
Nerd

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

what is that fraction ?

1/10000. Seriously, if you are making a DevD sort of film in thamizh, you would not be successful unless you market it as a soft-porn film. The only 'A' center (in its purest form) is sathyam (may be may be mayajaal) in Tamil Nadu. And there are so many of them in India that cater to Hindi films.

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enakku enga valikkudhu-na, look at their masala movies like Race, Dostana and compare it with our masalas - Aegan or VAyiram - no comparison........they have improved their standards on a whole.....

Neenga imEs padangaL pAthathu illaiyA? But I see what you are trying to say and I concur 8-)

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