Kamalhassan's Ideology in his films

adhu avar opinion. unga opinion-ai sollaNumnA nInga padam edunga.

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Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

But by the Kamal's characters' jibes against religion, avaru adha patthi oru 'scientific' study pannavE illainnu theriyudhu.

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That is because his interests are purely social. Not in the pure metaphysical question.

He is interested only to the extent that it affects simple people.
- an old man who chant kanakadArA stotram when in a prison cell. (ஹ்ம்ம்..கொட்டித்து...கூடவே தேளும் கொட்டித்து)

- or a henchman who sees God as a justice-dispenser, and who killed his daughter for his misdeeds, and thus decides to drop his sickle (சாமி எனக்கு நல்ல சாவே குடுக்காது தம்பி)

- an old lady who demands her way to heaven (என் கட்டை மோட்சத்துக்கு போயிரும்)

- as an aging nurse who rails at a God who is not dispensing justice (but even then doesn't seem to suspecting his existence, perhaps the need for bulwark deepens with misery).


Who else has raised these questions or engaged in this type of discourse in tamil film ?

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Originally Posted by sathya_1979

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Originally Posted by Plum

pArunga, specificA sollungannu kEttavuNE, I think, I cant remember exactlylAm varudhu pArthingaLA? ;-)

1. enna sonnAr?
2. Was it at a serious ideology level or at a "brahmin mami talk tease" level"

Reg. #3, atrocities suffered by Hindus at othersku appuram varuvOm. Now we are talking about insults to one community.

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10 varusham munnaadi kudutha interview date eppadinga nyaabagam irukkum?

Also, whether it is ideology level attack or mami level tease - What is the need? And does he have the guts to tease females from other communities? Adhudhaan ennoda kosteen.

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Again, namma kadhavukku veLilErundhE what is the need-nu kEkka vENAmE? What I meant was what exactly did he say? I am trying to get to the bottom of what exactly is the irritant, remember?
pooNal pathi sonNAr kobam vandhudhungarInga - this is step 1 for me to understand your resentment. Step 2 is enna sonnAr? adhai thAn kEttEn. adhukkappuram avarai eNNai kopparaila pOdaradhA nylon kayirula thonga vudaradhAnnu yOsichu solla vasadhiyA irukkum :)

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Originally Posted by Plum

adhu avar opinion

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That is because his interests are purely social. Not in the pure metaphysical question.
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Who else has raised these questions or engaged in this type of discourse in tamil film ?

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Totally agree. My only grouse is that while his intellectual brilliance is evident from his cinema, his stubbornness towards not learning anything new in religion is equally apparent. (not its historical or social aspects, but the actual religious, spiritual, and metaphysical aspects .. idha seriya purinjakkaadhadhu dhaanE prachanaiyE). To me, his religious opinions are quite similar to the opinion that certain theists have against evolution, without actually bothering to understand any of the scientific reasoning or evidence behind the matter under consideration.

Read Kalyan and Sakala's posts for what he said, not abt the interview matter, but overall. I presume, this discussion is not ONLY abt one statement in an interview.

Ada marubadiyum angeye poreengale? Onnu onna fisal pannuvomnu dhaane sonnen? Modhallaye terms clearA explain paNNEnE? There are several charges being laid here, and purported proof for one charge is being used as evidence for another charge. It doesn't work that way. Its like saying uvar aanar ivar 1985-l thirudinaar so 1995la kolaiyum ivar dhaan panni iruppaar.

Idhai modhalla mudippom. Enna sonnar (excuse my persistence. Blanket level discussions don't do justice. Then it keeps on going to why doesn't he diss muslims. Let's figure what exactly did he say to hurt brahmins first. )

Ur Persistence is on par with Kamal's bashing of Hindus in the name of paguththarivu :D

Regarding examples, excuse my persistence - Please refer Kalyan and Sakala's examples!

No, you brought the pooNal charge. Adhai faisal paNNAma adutha caseku poga mudiyAdhu. kalyan has been very generic throwing one fantastic interpretation after another as proof. Sakala talked about brahmin ladies talk. adhukkum varvOm. But I want to faisal iqbal the pooNal matter first. Again, if you might excuse me, enna sonnAr? because you said you got offended by that speech. So it is presumably not Kalyan or SKV who (have so far confessed) to being offended by THAT speech. So the burden of answer has to lie with you :-)

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Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

My only grouse is that while his intellectual brilliance is evident from his cinema, his stubbornness towards not learning anything new in religion is equally apparent. (not its historical or social aspects, but the actual religious, spiritual, and metaphysical aspects .. idha seriya purinjakkaadhadhu dhaanE prachanaiyE).

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a_k, idhu prachinaiyE illai.
I don't think, say, a better understanding of the nature of universe, would alter what he has to say.

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Originally Posted by P_R

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Originally Posted by anbu_kathir

My only grouse is that while his intellectual brilliance is evident from his cinema, his stubbornness towards not learning anything new in religion is equally apparent. (not its historical or social aspects, but the actual religious, spiritual, and metaphysical aspects .. idha seriya purinjakkaadhadhu dhaanE prachanaiyE).

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a_k, idhu prachinaiyE illai.
I don't think, say, a better understanding of the nature of universe, would alter what he has to say.

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I am not talking about KH's personal approach to religion alone. What I said was for the society as a whole. Anyway, understanding the universe is the job of science. Religion, OTOH, is about how the cosmos and its mysteries are related to oneself individually. That, IMHO, has the potential of changing all activities of life.