Talks that Marudhanayagam could be revived. IR was (and hopefully "is") the composer...right?
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/61302.html
thanks,
Krishnan
Talks that Marudhanayagam could be revived. IR was (and hopefully "is") the composer...right?
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/61302.html
thanks,
Krishnan
is baba pugazh maalai available on itunes?
I am not sure if Ilaiyaraaja was considered for this project. Long time ago i read that Kamal originally wanted a an Indian Classical Musician and a Western Classical Artist to collaborate for the music of this film.Quote:
Originally Posted by krish244
Raagas , The same kamal Hassan also said in another interview that Marudhanayagam is not without illayaraaja and that he was the only choice . Let's see !
Marudh will not be marketeable without Rahman, IMO. I dont think Kamal will get his way on this one, if he wants IR.
Bottomline, nobody is going to produce/distribute Marudh for kalai dhAgam. And such people think very differently from us or Kamal in this matter.
Plum too much credit for Rahman and disgrace for not Raaja but for Kamal
Jai,
I am not sure about itunes. Even though it is a Sony release it is not yet widely available here in Bangalore!!!
KH-IR topic is interesting (though I'm 100% sure there's not going to be another movie from this combo..."patchi" tells).
Whether Kamal thinks that IR cannot deliver goods at present is something to be discussed.
IMO, their last combo, MX, had music that wasn't chartbusting type, but then we don't know what was demanded from IR.
If there's one artist who can demand and get things from IR with total freeness, it has to be KH. So, the general consensus could be that KH got what he wanted. The output, however, failed to please general public (which included me).
Did it make Kamal feel that it's better for him to partner with youngsters who know the "current pulse" of the audience and not keep sticking to --er--outdated-- veterans?
Similar to the decision RK took many years back?
In any case, I'd be surprised if Kamal cannot sell at similar or better prices with IR's music than what he currently manages with Sruthi / DSP / etc music. From that view, I don't buy the "money bags" theory. (Didn't see his interview but hub posts suggested so).
Also, it'd be an interesting question as to whether IR demands a bigger salary than the MDs who recently worked with Kamal. (It's quite possible that IR suggests BSO etc depending upon the script. OTOH, he may probably write the score in remarkably shorter time / without trips to London - Jamaica etc thus saving time and expenses).
This combo may revive only if kamal directs and not acts. the stakes will be considerably less and therefore moneybags and deuchebags can be disregarded for a lofty artistic aim.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
thats the sad story! but if ARR can deliver the goods, i ask 'why not ?' (though, I still crave for a Kamal/IR combo at least for Marudh!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
kalai dhagam or kathhirikkai dhagam - unless the film is of some genuinely out-of-the-world production values and some stunning imagery mixed with an equally appealing script, it will not have many takers - kamal wud be better off doing 'manmadhan ambu', 'chandiran sombu', 'rathiyin kambu' etc and ensure BO returns
Digression
Didn't he market dasAvathAram with near-unknown-in-TN entities for music? The budget / expenses (sappAnla irundhu sAckie chAn vandhAha) / sale / revenue etc weren't any less than the original budget of marudh - just that Kamal didn't have to produce it and / or there were no political issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Seriously, I don't think Kamal needs ARR for marketing his product, unless he wants to do it in indhi. (Actually inside TN, it's the other way around. I don't think ARR wants to waste his energy with s/o Bagyaraj & s/o Thanu and such for another project any more :wink: )
End-digression
One last digression on Plumji's point :-)
Now man's ambu is being marketed without ARR, is it not? With DSP.
Though not possibly of the enthiran proportions, it is still big budget / big price stuff, IMO. Everything being same, replacing DSP with YSR / HJ / GVP / Sruthi / XYZ (includes IR) won't bring it down, will it? Or, will replacing with ARR make it sell at enthiran levels? Highly debatable.
Is the budget of MN such a big number for mu-kA family companies? It's probably not >50% of what they allegedly spent for enthiran.
And they can easily price it proportionately and make money (or claim same numbers and do some "white-wash") :-)
End-digression
I have an excellent idea. Kamal should sell Marudhanayagam story to Aamir Khan. AK will produce it with ARR music. Shruthi can be the female lead. (Make it part of the deal, when selling the story). Kamal can appear is some guest role (not exceeding 5min in Hindi, may be stretched to 30min in Tamil). There are lot of advantages to this plan.
1) The movie will be marketable and watchable.
2) Producer will make some money.
3) Kamal will get some money.
4) Kamal can "re-enter" Hindi market.
5) Shruthi will get a big movie.
:D
I think the title of the thread should be changed to, "varaadha padathuku vara pogum isai." Though I must say in this rather arid times (Raja music wise) this is some 'aval' for everyone to munch on :)
I think app_eng has some valid points. I know app has been a person who keenly observes the economics of film making as well. As he says, Kamal's films have been marketed as just that, Kamal films. So having DSP / Shruthi etc does not matter. If they take in Rahman they will get bigger hype but they have will have to pay more as well and probably wait longer to get the music !!! So if the movie gets made we should not be surprised if Kamal chooses someone like Shankar Mahadevan or Vishal Shekar or even Preetam for the music!!! Once you have chosen Himesh Reshamayya, anyone else can only be an improvement!!!
Aamir Khan already has done MANGAL PANDEY.
Why is he going to be interested in doing a similar show again?
Then taare zameen par & now the production of PEEPLI LIVE.. I am impressed.
PEEPLI LIVE... backed, produced by a big star but acted effectively by not so big names is amazing.
I enjoyed while watching the movie in the theater but later.. the sorry state of affairs really made me sad and thinking...very heavy.
the death of the lone farmer is really :cry: profoundly moving movie.
a good, sensible film doesn't have a high profile music name like Rahman or IR etc.. hype.
for this film
INDIAN OCEAN soundtrack is emotionally touching, folkish, retro...beautiful job :musicsmile: regular folks, commoner can conncet with the compositions and lyrics.
PEEPLI LIVE is India's entry for oscars. Good luck, Aamir!
vinatha.
Very true. Especially given the fate of Mangal Pandey in the box office :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
~dig
there is a rumour that yuvan is going to do music for MN and also Yuvan also keep on twitting there is a really BIG project in his pipeline yet to be finalised
yuvan for Marudhanayakam that requires probably no songs and full orchestra BGM ???/ DOubt sanjeevi !
trivia for you Sanjeevi: the big project I believe involves a major Hollywood (afro-american) star for a major Hollywood production houseQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
mmmmm.... I don't follow media kahanies, box office earnings, their interviews, gossips etc... so I don't know.
I am a regular person ....self absorbed with my own life demands and joys. :)
I watched it one time.
not about hit, flop or the producer made money etc...
MANGAL PANDEY has the similar story like MARUDHANAYAGAM as I understand.
unnecessary ...he may not be interested, redundant for him.
After that Aamir khan has given some nice movies like TZP, 3 idiots and the production of Peepli live... I enjoy watching his films.
vinatha.
is it? looks like a insider news :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
heard abt it a few months ago - apparently the afro-american actor (known for his histrionic skills as well as star power/charisma) stumbled upon Yuvan's music online and was interested and the approach was made!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Thanks irir123 for the news. It will be very good step for Yuvan :way_to_go:
That's the point. If he decides to dub it in Hindi, which is a necessity in case of big budget films, he has to join with other known faces in the north. He is not a crowd-puller there, as he is in the south. That’s why he wanted Rahman for Dasavatharam itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x90...ama_shortfilms
The difference between Kamal and Rajini is while Rajini always tries to work with the winning horses, Kamal likes to work with the people who listens to him.
Sorry for the digression.
RK Selvamani after making 'Uzhaippali" (or was it Pandian ?) was to have done another film with Rajini - RKS insisted on IR, but Rajini was not sure of IR's market value then and insisted on Deva! RKS was adamant on IR and hence refused the film when Rajini wanted Deva coz of the then market value of Deva! I guess the said film was apparently Annamalai which went to Suresh Krishna - and Deva gave us immortal/eternal numbers like 'vandhendaa paalkaran', 'kondaiyyil thazhampoo' etc!Quote:
Originally Posted by par
Moral of the story: "one deserves what one gets"
Ayyya saamee - neenga sarcasm use panniteengo. it is unacceptable in hub - our skins are too sensitive to intelligent sarcasm...Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
Having said that, we also know that Vasanth refused to do the said movie as he insisted IR and IR was no no for KB (as he was the producer) and hence Deva was roped in. The RKS story comes in for Baasha. By that time ARR had well been established as the replacement for Raaja by market pundits. RKS lost the opportunity to do Baasha but Rajini couldnt get ARR (due to timing) and Deva came in to create history with "Autokaaran" and "Azhagu" songs.
Finally Rajini's desire was fulfilled when he did Muthu for KB and ARR scored.
nyways nothing is lost of gained for anyone, everything happens for a purpose and entropy is stable overall and universe remains in balance.
Again, as often repeated,...for Rajini and Kamal Movies, are sold only for them, and the value does not cahnge based on the MD, Director, Editor, Cameraman,..etc..One exception can be their combo with Shankar , that would get a increased sale value. (Again let us also remember, shankar need to combine with either of these two stars to get his movie sell better)..
In Reality,the MD combination is not going to alter the sale value any way..it purely is how Rajini/Kamal goes about it.
[quote="jaiganes"][quote="irir123"]if all of that is true, I can very well understand why IR refuses to do music for Rajini films - even though the 2 of them claim to be friends offscreen! 'thanmaanam' prachhanai here, I guess!Quote:
Originally Posted by par
KR was offered Muthu first and IR refused / did not allow KR to do it. Rest is history.
For record, IR has done two Rajini movies after aNNAmalai -Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
ejamAn (RVU reasoned with Rajini to accept IR, though Rajini expressed apprehensions with AVM opposing the choice, in 1993)
& veerA (1994, PA + IR, a combo like 80's in the midst of a big ARR wave! In the success celebration, Rajini's jocular remark on IR enjoying a/c room while the hero struggles in veyyil supposedly promoted a furious reply from IR on stage)
IMO, it's a question of RK not preferring IR as the 1st choice and IR not accepting any offer that comes after someone else rejecting it / not having time to do etc. (hEy rAm was a different case, IR was the first choice anyways).
ரஜினி opposed the choice of ஸ்ரீ.இளையராஜா for வீரா & எஜமான் படங்களுக்கா? :roll:
thank you R .V .உதயகுமார் for insisting ஸ்ரீ.இளையராஜா's மியூசிக் and gave me a nice album to run around with .
படம் ஒருதடவை பார்த்தேன், free DVD when you buy groceries.. I need to eat anyway .
உதயகுமார்'s பாடல் வரிகள், orchestration , singing of ஸ்ரீ.பாலா , selection of ராகாஸ் , mood of the composition etc ..I cherish it. அய்யா truly deserves AC ரூம்.....albums go eternal :musicsmile:
வீரா படம் first half is enjoyable with some funny moments.
வீரா படம் does 't have ரஜினி's that superficial stardom opening song ... தல, பின்னிடுவேன், நான்தான் பெரிய பிஸ்தா etc .. துதி பாட்டு.
even those துதி, நான் பெரிய கொம்பனாக்கும் etc opening songs... true ஹீரோ is ஸ்ரீ.பாலா சுப்பிரமணியம் with his gusto and energy ... folk rhythm.
Dependable ஸ்ரீ.பாலா சுப்பிரமணியம் generously gives life.
:clap: R .V .உதயகுமார் with ஸ்ரீ.இளையராஜா is my favorite CD :musicsmile:
வினதா.
First MD for Hey Ram was L.Subramaniam ila?Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Oh..Is it? I thought the 1st choice was Zakir Hussain, 2nd L. Subramaniam, 3rd IR.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Reportedly the first choice was IR, who refused stating that the possible anti-Gandhi sentiments of the movie were not to his liking.
The story of how he got to finally associate with the movie is quite well-known.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
:D ...good folks
Since we are anyway quite off-topic from the title of the thread, let me ask a question to the knowledgeable folks here and keep the 'vambu' factor up :D
In a recent interview on TV, the Telugu film director Vamshi made the following comment, "It seems that one big production house, after the music of a film was done, sent a couple of its junior people to pay Raja a small amount. When Raja queried as to why they were paying him so less, they replied saying that their company has decided as per their policy. Raja got furious and said as per his policy he is rejecting the payment." So when Vamshi approached Raja for his next film, Raja insisted on a certain (fairly large sum) as his remuneration before hand itself. Now, Vamshi went on to say that this production house is a big one and still in business. Anyone know which production house he may be talking about?
Even AVM didn't want Ilaiyaraaja for 'Ejamaan' as they were not in a good terms with him. It is only because of the insistence of RVU, we came to hear gems like Nilave mugam, Oru naalum...Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
Is it really so? Can a not-so-big director refuse a Rajnikant film (hence big) just because Rajni wanted another composer. I mean, was that director so particular about IR that he can say NO to Rajnikant? I really doubt! Afterall, it is about a 3 hr film, which he is losing just for the same of 30minute casette (music).Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
I have seen/known some people concluding (not even speculating) that it is Ramanaidu's Suresh Productions, but I somehow do not buy that, because they are considered to be "Technician-friendly" (Ramanaidu's philosophy is that nobody in the unit should lose any money). But i am not sure again and i cant vouch. But lot of people assume that it is Suresh Productions!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65